Cell mass

blacky54761 · 07-04-2005, 09:40 PM

I was wondering how long does it take for cell mass to kick in and should it be takin pre workout and post workout?

RcKyPAO · 07-04-2005, 09:48 PM

Cellmass is a post workout creatine. I use NO-Xpolde pre-workout and Cellmass post workout both by BSN. Cellmass is some crazy ****. My lifting partner and I lift pretty intense for 2 hours and afterwards I'm drained but after I get to my car and drink the Cellmass I feel like I could walk right back in the gym and start lifting again It's great stuff.

Vincent124 · 07-05-2005, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RcKyPAO

Cellmass is a post workout creatine. I use NO-Xpolde pre-workout and Cellmass post workout both by BSN. Cellmass is some crazy ****. My lifting partner and I lift pretty intense for 2 hours and afterwards I'm drained but after I get to my car and drink the Cellmass I feel like I could walk right back in the gym and start lifting again It's great stuff.

I wasn't going to respond to this at first.. What with you pushing NO products and that Cellmass bull****. Untill I saw that you work for a GNC. Kind of ironic isn't it?

You don't need Cellmass PWO. You need food, and lots of it. Lots of complex carbs, not Muscle Cell Uptake Proprietary Matrix 950mg OR CEM3™ (Creatine Ethyl Ester Malate) Patent Pending 3000mg. You could be getting more food into your body if you weren't filling it with Cellmass.

Moises56 · 07-05-2005, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Vincent124

I wasn't going to respond to this at first.. What with you pushing NO products and that Cellmass bull****. Untill I saw that you work for a GNC. Kind of ironic isn't it?

You don't need Cellmass PWO. You need food, and lots of it. Lots of complex carbs, not Muscle Cell Uptake Proprietary Matrix 950mg OR CEM3™ (Creatine Ethyl Ester Malate) Patent Pending 3000mg. You could be getting more food into your body if you weren't filling it with Cellmass.

I don't agree with this at all. Sure we all need lots of food when training, but you mean to tell me there are no added benefits from taking SUPPLEMENTS? As the name implies, their purpose is not to replace food or a proper diet but rather, to SUPPLEMENT it.

Vincent124 · 07-05-2005, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Moises56

I don't agree with this at all. Sure we all need lots of food when training, but you mean to tell me there are no added benefits from taking SUPPLEMENTS? As the name implies, their purpose is not to replace food or a proper diet but rather, to SUPPLEMENT it.

But after a workout your priority should be complex carbs and protein. Like you said, they can't replace food. So food should come first, then you can supplement yourself with expensive bull**** you got from GNC.

Testosterone97 · 07-05-2005, 07:34 AM

Im not arguing that you need food after a workout, but tell me this! How do you expect someone to sit down after a grueling workout and eat a bunch of food?????? Its way too difficult and i dont think it can be done. Thats the benefit of shakes and drinks is you dont have to chew your @$$ off trying to choke down a bunch of food!

I dont think anyone has an appetite after lifting

IImagine · 07-05-2005, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Testosterone97

Im not arguing that you need food after a workout, but tell me this! How do you expect someone to sit down after a grueling workout and eat a bunch of food?????? Its way too difficult and i dont think it can be done. Thats the benefit of shakes and drinks is you dont have to chew your @$$ off trying to choke down a bunch of food!

I dont think anyone has an appetite after lifting

VERY VERY VERY TRUE.....
After I workout, all I want to do is flop down on the floor and not get up.
I dont even want to look at the weights for a while.
And all the words that come out of my mouth is...
Something cold to drink, Somthing cold to drink
AND
When someone even mentions food, or that I have to chew on something after my intense workout, I feel like barfing.....

Ikaika · 07-05-2005, 09:55 AM

no joke...if you're thinking about food as soon as you get done training, you weren't working hard enough.

Back to the cellmass question though...its a good product; people complain that its overpriced but that has no bearing on whether or not it works. i'd give it a week or so to kick in, with the biggest strength gains coming toward the end of the 2nd week and on into the third, fourth, fifth, etc. weeks you run it.

Vincent124 · 07-05-2005, 10:41 AM

Then drink a damn MRP, fools.

Ikaika · 07-05-2005, 11:04 AM

you don't need complex carbs...do you know anything about PWO nutrition? You need high-GI carbs to get your body to produce insulin again and stop catabolizing muscle. In addition, a meal of whole foods would include fat...which is the absolute last thing you want PWO since it slows the digestion of everything else.

by the way, an MRP is very different from whole food...

M(0)NSTER · 07-05-2005, 11:53 AM

hello,

im new here and my last post got lost somehow and i dont feel like retyping. This is going to consist of bullets and points on cellmass+Nitrix

- I'm 24 yrs old
-been outta the gym for 5
-graduated with a bench max of 260, squat of 520 (5 yrs.ago)
-been back in the gym for 6 weeks
-Trained for muscle memory recovery for the 1st two weeks.
-started using BSN NO-Xplode in week 3 (not impressed, Fizogens' is better)
-Started taking cellmass+nitrix in week 4
-cellmass has no load cycle, Nitirx takes about a week to kick in
-In week 5 I benched 290 for a set of 2
-shattered my old highschool rec in less than 6 weeks of training
-I only eat 2 times a day + 2 protien shakes
-I never eat complex carbs (simple in moderation)
-I drink 6 litres of water a day with various vitamins

Everyone is different, but this is working for me...I'm listening to my body. I'm losing fat, and gaining a lot of mass. I started at 230lbs@21%bf, and now I'm at 226@14%bf in 6 weeks. I'm not sure is this is fast progress, but I can not deny my constant change. In 3 months I'll throw in the axis-ht tabs to see what happens then. I'm might be geneticaly blessed, but I cant deny the effects of Cellmass and Nitrix on my body. YES, you REALLY DO need to be using both at the same time...they go hand in hand.

THX

M(0)NSTER · 07-05-2005, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Testosterone97

Im not arguing that you need food after a workout, but tell me this! How do you expect someone to sit down after a grueling workout and eat a bunch of food?????? Its way too difficult and i dont think it can be done. Thats the benefit of shakes and drinks is you dont have to chew your @$$ off trying to choke down a bunch of food!

I dont think anyone has an appetite after lifting

I'm not sure how ur working out, or if you pound down a ton of food before you work out, but you must not be doing much or nay cardio at all. Cardio works up ur hunger and has me STARVING by the time I leave the gym. Try this...do 15 min HIT cardio before you walk out of the gym door.

M(0)NSTER · 07-05-2005, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Vincent124

But after a workout your priority should be complex carbs and protein. Like you said, they can't replace food. So food should come first, then you can supplement yourself with expensive bull**** you got from GNC.

simple carbs

Testosterone97 · 07-05-2005, 12:12 PM

Food and MRP's are two different things sir. According to you, you expect people to sit down to a thanksgiving dinner and grub after lifting!

Gnc isnt bad if you know what your buying, dont listen to the workers, and catch all the sales!

M(0)NSTER · 07-05-2005, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Vincent124

I wasn't going to respond to this at first.. What with you pushing NO products and that Cellmass bull****. Untill I saw that you work for a GNC. Kind of ironic isn't it?

You don't need Cellmass PWO. You need food, and lots of it. Lots of complex carbs, not Muscle Cell Uptake Proprietary Matrix 950mg OR CEM3™ (Creatine Ethyl Ester Malate) Patent Pending 3000mg. You could be getting more food into your body if you weren't filling it with Cellmass.

You need both. I dont eat a lot of food, and I'm making massive gains. I make sure my protien intake doesnt fall below 200 grams, throw in a small portion of simple carbs here and there...and im good to go. Listen to your body. If you make it a point to have a great mind and body connection, you will make gains off whatever you give your body (relative speaking of course.) AND GET A LOT OF SLEEP DAMMIT!!

M(0)NSTER · 07-05-2005, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Testosterone97

Food and MRP's are two different things sir. According to you, you expect people to sit down to a thanksgiving dinner and grub after lifting!

Gnc isnt bad if you know what your buying, dont listen to the workers, and catch all the sales!

not at all... I usually eat one can of tuna, half a can of spinach, and like a hand full of rice. That's nothing. It's easier to get that down than drinking a thick nasty shake...IMO

warriors · 07-05-2005, 01:18 PM

damn i thought i was the only one that couldnt eat after a workout...guess im not alone after all

Vincent124 · 07-05-2005, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ikaika

you don't need complex carbs...do you know anything about PWO nutrition? You need high-GI carbs to get your body to produce insulin again and stop catabolizing muscle. In addition, a meal of whole foods would include fat...which is the absolute last thing you want PWO since it slows the digestion of everything else.

Sorry for the mixup...

So what do you suggest he take? Some magical "Cellmass" that has all of the above and will do wonders for him? He can either choke down ****ty cellmass and **** himself up, or he can eat food and do alot better. I recomended an MRP because he said he couldn't eat solid foods after working out.

The only good options would be:
Real food(low fat like the ******* suggested)
OR
A PWO shake(basically an MRP made for post workout conditions to produce an insulin spike like the ******* above me said)

Vincent124 · 07-05-2005, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Testosterone97

Food and MRP's are two different things sir. According to you, you expect people to sit down to a thanksgiving dinner and grub after lifting!

Gnc isnt bad if you know what your buying, dont listen to the workers, and catch all the sales!

REALLY?!?!?!?!? I DIDN'T KNOW THAT!!!! If you're too stupid to notice the sarcasm(which you probably are), please shut your computer off now.

My biggest meal is always after I workout, and I have no problems putting it down. IF, and I mean IF my CNS is too ****ed for me to get any food down(which is rare), I drink an MRP. Usually one for PWO, like Surge.

You guys make me sick.

Ikaika · 07-05-2005, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Vincent124

Sorry for the mixup...

So what do you suggest he take? Some magical "Cellmass" that has all of the above and will do wonders for him? He can either choke down ****ty cellmass and **** himself up, or he can eat food and do alot better. I recomended an MRP because he said he couldn't eat solid foods after working out.

The only good options would be:
Real food(low fat like the ******* suggested)
OR
A PWO shake(basically an MRP made for post workout conditions to produce an insulin spike like the ******* above me said)

Wow grow up...

Cellmass contains the following:
Serving Size: 1 Scoop (16g)
Servings Per Container: 40

Amount Per Serving:

Calories 38
Sodium 70mg
Potassium 140mg
Carbs 9.5g
Calcium 80mg
Phosphorous 150mg

CEM3 3000mg
(Creatine Ethyl Ester Malate)

Glutamine AKG 2000mg

Muscle Cell Uptake Proprietary Matrix: 950mg
- Cinnulin-PF
- Calcium Phosphate
- Di-Potassium Phosphate
- Di-Sodium Phosphate

My suggestion is for him to take his Cellmass whenever the hell he wants...it really doesn't matter whether its post workout or not since CEE is much more readily transported into cells than creatine monohydrate alone and is absorbed independent of insulin levels.

Never did I say that Cellmass is a magical post-workout drink/meal/whatever. It is CEE, a transport matrix, and glutamine. Thats it. It helps if you know what you're talking about before advising or bashing others. So please, before popping off again, make sure you're well informed.

As for his PWO shake, its been said time and time again: 50 grams of low-GI carbs(dextrose/maltodextrin is a popular mixture), 50-70 grams of protein, and lots of water. A couple hours later he should be eating a large meal of protein, complex carbs, and healthy fats, but he already knows that.

Ikaika · 07-05-2005, 03:06 PM

Moises56 · 07-05-2005, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Vincent124

REALLY?!?!?!?!? I DIDN'T KNOW THAT!!!! If you're too stupid to notice the sarcasm(which you probably are), please shut your computer off now.

My biggest meal is always after I workout, and I have no problems putting it down. IF, and I mean IF my CNS is too ****ed for me to get any food down(which is rare), I drink an MRP. Usually one for PWO, like Surge.

You guys make me sick.

Dude, lay off the steroids and maybe you'll lighten up a little. Speak to people in a respectful manner and maybe more people would listen to you. Your posts are way too angry to even consider what you're trying to say. No need to get upset here. If someone wants to spend more money by shopping at GNC, who cares? It's not my money. You're taking this stuff way too seriously...

SleepingPeace · 07-05-2005, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Testosterone97

Im not arguing that you need food after a workout, but tell me this! How do you expect someone to sit down after a grueling workout and eat a bunch of food?????? Its way too difficult and i dont think it can be done. Thats the benefit of shakes and drinks is you dont have to chew your @$$ off trying to choke down a bunch of food!

I dont think anyone has an appetite after lifting

No appetite after lifting? And another post says if you have an appetite after lifting you didn't lift enough? What's with that? I could eat all day!

Vincent124 · 07-05-2005, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ikaika

Wow grow up...

Cellmass contains the following:
Serving Size: 1 Scoop (16g)
Servings Per Container: 40

Amount Per Serving:

Calories 38
Sodium 70mg
Potassium 140mg
Carbs 9.5g
Calcium 80mg
Phosphorous 150mg

CEM3 3000mg
(Creatine Ethyl Ester Malate)

Glutamine AKG 2000mg

Muscle Cell Uptake Proprietary Matrix: 950mg
- Cinnulin-PF
- Calcium Phosphate
- Di-Potassium Phosphate
- Di-Sodium Phosphate

My suggestion is for him to take his Cellmass whenever the hell he wants...it really doesn't matter whether its post workout or not since CEE is much more readily transported into cells than creatine monohydrate alone and is absorbed independent of insulin levels.

Never did I say that Cellmass is a magical post-workout drink/meal/whatever. It is CEE, a transport matrix, and glutamine. Thats it. It helps if you know what you're talking about before advising or bashing others. So please, before popping off again, make sure you're well informed.

As for his PWO shake, its been said time and time again: 50 grams of low-GI carbs(dextrose/maltodextrin is a popular mixture), 50-70 grams of protein, and lots of water. A couple hours later he should be eating a large meal of protein, complex carbs, and healthy fats, but he already knows that.

Caption obvious to the rescue! What's your point? You aren't arguing anything. You just layed out a bunch of common knowlage. Good job! Maybe while your at it, you could tell me how to bench press. We all know CEE is bull**** anyways. You can push it as hard as you want, but there is no proof that it does anything differently than regulare CM.

Vincent124 · 07-05-2005, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Moises56

Dude, lay off the steroids and maybe you'll lighten up a little. Speak to people in a respectful manner and maybe more people would listen to you. Your posts are way too angry to even consider what you're trying to say. No need to get upset here. If someone wants to spend more money by shopping at GNC, who cares? It's not my money. You're taking this stuff way too seriously...

How do you know what I'm taking seriously or not? Dumb stereotypes like "roid-rage" make me laugh. It's a proven fact that the only steroid to cause "rage" like aggression is sust, and no one takes sust, NO ONE. Retard.

Ikaika · 07-05-2005, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Vincent124

Caption obvious to the rescue! What's your point? You aren't arguing anything. You just layed out a bunch of common knowlage. Good job! Maybe while your at it, you could tell me how to bench press. We all know CEE is bull**** anyways. You can push it as hard as you want, but there is no proof that it does anything differently than regulare CM.

No amount of cowbell can save this boy...

Vincent124 · 07-06-2005, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Ikaika

No amount of cowbell can save this boy...

Boy? I'm older than you. No amount of bad reps from you will change the fact that cellmass-PWO is not healthy.

RcKyPAO · 07-07-2005, 05:06 PM

Jesus...I guess it is ironic for me to buy stuff I sell at GNC since I get a discount. Guess it is also bad for me to give my personal opinion too. Cellmass is designed as a post workout creatine that I've used that I thought really helped me from feeling like crap after my intense workout sessions. After workouts I'd take a serving of Cellmass before I leave the gym then once I get home I'd make myself a chicken sandwich and 100% whey protein shake. I got good size and strength gains using NO-Xplode and Cellmass. Also if I was going to promote BSN I'd also mention Nitrix but I don't use it so I won't rep for it. Oh and for Vincent124 get the dick outta your ass before you start posting again it'll do you some good.

Vincent124 · 07-07-2005, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RcKyPAO

Jesus...I guess it is ironic for me to buy stuff I sell at GNC since I get a discount. Guess it is also bad for me to give my personal opinion too. Cellmass is designed as a post workout creatine that I've used that I thought really helped me from feeling like crap after my intense workout sessions. After workouts I'd take a serving of Cellmass before I leave the gym then once I get home I'd make myself a chicken sandwich and 100% whey protein shake. I got good size and strength gains using NO-Xplode and Cellmass. Also if I was going to promote BSN I'd also mention Nitrix but I don't use it so I won't rep for it. Oh and for Vincent124 get the dick outta your ass before you start posting again it'll do you some good.

Cell mass= crap.
NO= crap.
You= Idiot.
Fight club signature= metrosexual.

No one wants your biased opinion. Go drink some cell-tech, pussy.

Str8tStackN · 07-07-2005, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RcKyPAO

Jesus...I guess it is ironic for me to buy stuff I sell at GNC since I get a discount. Guess it is also bad for me to give my personal opinion too. Cellmass is designed as a post workout creatine that I've used that I thought really helped me from feeling like crap after my intense workout sessions. After workouts I'd take a serving of Cellmass before I leave the gym then once I get home I'd make myself a chicken sandwich and 100% whey protein shake. I got good size and strength gains using NO-Xplode and Cellmass. Also if I was going to promote BSN I'd also mention Nitrix but I don't use it so I won't rep for it. Oh and for Vincent124 get the dick outta your ass before you start posting again it'll do you some good.

DUDE, YOUR a Str8T BAD MUTHER you Know WHat. IMPRESSIVE STATS. You ever cycled on gear?