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    what is the closest thing to steroids on the market legally today?

    I've always wondered if anyone on here has taken any supplement or product that is legal that works like steroids. Like the "on cylce" stuff says that it does and something else, but I can't remember it's name. ANyone know of anything like that I can try without turning to roids?

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    Originally Posted by sho89mtx
    I've always wondered if anyone on here has taken any supplement or product that is legal that works like steroids. Like the "on cylce" stuff says that it does and something else, but I can't remember it's name. ANyone know of anything like that I can try without turning to roids?

    thanks,
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    Um, yeah, it's called......drum roll please....FOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them.

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    Originally Posted by Estopell
    Um, yeah, it's called......drum roll please....FOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    well appretnly just food doesn't work for me. I have been eating 3000 calories a day on 40/30/20 plan with all the right food and i'm true ectomorph and only gained about 5 lbs and most of it was fat. My biceps are still a meesly 14.5" and never grow!
    scott 28/m 5'10" 166lbs
    see how I went from 191lbs of fat to 149lbs here:
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    Originally Posted by Estopell
    Um, yeah, it's called......drum roll please....FOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    That was funny the first couple hundred times, but this is the supplement forum...

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    Wink

    Nitrix and Cellmass for sure....haven't you seen Ronnie Coleman ??

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    ahhhhhhhhhh............i thought steroids were legal. just because it is available for purchase online right next to whey protein and just because the feds will not be delivering it, doesn't mean it ain't still steroids.

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    Originally Posted by Dosquito
    That was funny the first couple hundred times, but this is the supplement forum...
    I wasn't being funny, genius.
    Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them.

    Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold
    "also, women don't know who i am (nor would they really give a sh*t)"

    Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold
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    Originally Posted by Rene8u2
    Nitrix and Cellmass for sure....haven't you seen Ronnie Coleman ??
    Hes just promoting them to make money, he dont use that ****

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    Originally Posted by Estopell
    I wasn't being funny, genius.
    Well, were you giving him advice that he wanted?

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    No, I was giving him advice that he needs. You'll learn.
    Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them.

    Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold
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    M1T or Superdrol

    If you can get your hands on M1T or superdrol they are probably the most effective legal supplelements. But be careful. Work hard in the gym eat well and use a good protein and creatine and you should be good, not steroid like effects though.

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    Originally Posted by builtripped
    If you can get your hands on M1T or superdrol they are probably the most effective legal supplelements. But be careful. Work hard in the gym eat well and use a good protein and creatine and you should be good, not steroid like effects though.
    M1T isnt legal
    Hidden away in a dark corner.

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    Superdrol, prostanozol, Ergomax, etc. are steroids. For some reason legality gives people the warm and fuzzies when it comes to 'roids.
    Use them or don't. Just keep in mind that when you take these "legal" anabolics you are using steroids.

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    I don't mean to rip you, but at 160lbs and 14.5" arms, you need to eat and train correctly for a while before looking for a magic pill. Freakie spelled out the current options available right now, but you need to pay some dues first. And those dues include learning how to make you muscles grow with hard work and nutrition. Again, no disrespect here. Just some honest advice.

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    Originally Posted by sho89mtx
    well appretnly just food doesn't work for me. I have been eating 3000 calories a day on 40/30/20 plan with all the right food and i'm true ectomorph and only gained about 5 lbs and most of it was fat. My biceps are still a meesly 14.5" and never grow!
    3000 calories isn't a whole lot. I'm an ecto as well, and at 3000 cals, I see little results. Bump that up to 3500 to 4000 cals, and my results improve drastically. Just eat more, and make sure you're taking in plenty of protein daily (excess is better than not enough).

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    Are things like Novedex XT steroids?

    bb

    Originally Posted by freakie
    Superdrol, prostanozol, Ergomax, etc. are steroids. For some reason legality gives people the warm and fuzzies when it comes to 'roids.
    Use them or don't. Just keep in mind that when you take these "legal" anabolics you are using steroids.

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    Originally Posted by sho89mtx
    well appretnly just food doesn't work for me. I have been eating 3000 calories a day on 40/30/20 plan with all the right food and i'm true ectomorph and only gained about 5 lbs and most of it was fat. My biceps are still a meesly 14.5" and never grow!
    Hmm well if your eating and training habits are as good as your math skills, i can see where the problem lies.

    Theres no supplement thats going to make you suddenly big.
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    Originally Posted by Lonny
    Hmm well if your eating and training habits are as good as your math skills, i can see where the problem lies.

    Theres no supplement thats going to make you suddenly big.
    LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO lol haha I didn't catch that at first.

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    Originally Posted by WMCRZ7
    3000 calories isn't a whole lot. I'm an ecto as well, and at 3000 cals, I see little results. Bump that up to 3500 to 4000 cals, and my results improve drastically. Just eat more, and make sure you're taking in plenty of protein daily (excess is better than not enough).

    I dont think you can make that blanket statement. .He said he gained 5 lbs, and most of that was fat.

    Now, assuming he was training fairly intensely 4 days a week.. If hes still gaining fat at the expense of muscle, then Id say thats hes eating more than enough to support muscle growth ON HIS METABOLISM. Eating more will put on more fat in his case.

    Its all based on our own individual metabolism. Im sure we all know how many calories it takes each of us individually to maintain, to reduce, and to gain. In my case, 2660 cals is my metabolic maintanance rate, with the activity factor appropriate to my training method figured in. Blindly bumping that up to 3200 cals will add fat, not the least of which will go right to a pot belly. Age has something to do with this also. .Guys my age tend to accumulate fat in that section. I have managed to put on about 10 lbs muscle this year without blowing up to over 15% body fat.. But it wasnt easy, and it took alot of zigzag dieting, carefully watching the bf measurements. I dont think that just eating more is everybody's answer to making muscle.... Not if we dont want to become just plain fat in the process.
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    is superdrol and ergomax equal?
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    Yeah, neither should be taken until your 23.
    Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them.

    Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold
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    Originally Posted by freakie
    Superdrol, prostanozol, Ergomax, etc. are steroids. For some reason legality gives people the warm and fuzzies when it comes to 'roids.
    Use them or don't. Just keep in mind that when you take these "legal" anabolics you are using steroids.
    This is exactly true. What is also true is that the food you eat is the most powerful drug you can put into your body. That being said, using these OTC steroids, sound diet, and smart training, I am bigger, stronger, and more defined than most guys I know using illegal AAS. It sounds cliche but it is so true, its DIET, DIET, DIET. The supplements, steroids included, only complement a sound diet, training, and recovery regimen. Back in the day, 20 lb gains in 4-6 weeks with M1T was not uncommon. Ergomax produced similar results. I'm currently using Superdrol and Prostanozol with wonderful results thus far. If you use steroids (whether legal or illegal) with the above mentioned diet and training schedule you will grow faster and fuller than most anyone in your gym. Just be smart about the whole process and never stop learning about all facets of the sport. Good Luck!
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    umm

    rene ur jokin right...sorry if im about to let u down but pro bodybuilders spend over 100,000 dollars on steroids a year..ronnie colman most likely will be dead in about 5 years..

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    Originally Posted by lftbig
    rene ur jokin right...sorry if im about to let u down but pro bodybuilders spend over 100,000 dollars on steroids a year..ronnie colman most likely will be dead in about 5 years..

    Sad but True..... it's too bad but ronnie probably will die within the next few years. I was very upset when Demayo died but when Ronnie dies.............................................. It will definantly be the worst day ever.
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    Originally Posted by GWAR129
    Sad but True..... it's too bad but ronnie probably will die within the next few years. I was very upset when Demayo died but when Ronnie dies.............................................. It will definantly be the worst day ever.
    It wont be any too good for the steroid industry either. Just remember what happened when Lyle Alzado died.. And, now, his doctor cant even confirm it was a steroid death.. But of course Steroids got 100% of the blame. BTW, I was surprisd to learn that Paul died from a heroin OD, not steroids!
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    Originally Posted by sho89mtx
    well appretnly just food doesn't work for me. I have been eating 3000 calories a day on 40/30/20 plan with all the right food and i'm true ectomorph and only gained about 5 lbs and most of it was fat. My biceps are still a meesly 14.5" and never grow!


    where does the last 10% of your intake come from?

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    Superdrol was previously mentioned

    if you know what you are doing, you might consider Long R3 IGF-1

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    Originally Posted by sho89mtx
    I've always wondered if anyone on here has taken any supplement or product that is legal that works like steroids. Like the "on cylce" stuff says that it does and something else, but I can't remember it's name. ANyone know of anything like that I can try without turning to roids?

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