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Old 10-21-2007, 06:09 PM   #1
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How will fast food affect my diet?

Do the kinds of fats found in such things as hamburgers and pizza offset weightloss even when keeping calories in check?

Basically I am a 6'1" 190 lbs male that is trying to cut after dirty bulking may up to 200 lbs from 165 lbs on a diet of four fast food meals a day. The last reading I took put me at about 15% BF. I have an odd metabolism that makes it so that I find it hard to gain too much fat but also difficult to get rid of it.

Because of midterms and being a student, time and money are dear to me. I am eating 2000 kcals daily, but quite often about half of that is junkfood. e.g. breakfast-muffin, lunch-pizza, dinner-burger, post-workout-protein shakes. Before anyone starts arguing, yes because of the city I live in fast food is actually cheaper than eating the same amount of calories healthy (unless you're eating plain whole wheat pasta every day).

So will a 2000 kcal diet with this junkfood be alright, or will it limit or eliminate my weight loss? I was told by some that I'll lose only muscle mass and no fat if I eat a diet high in junk fats like pizza and such. But I'm not sure. Any ideas? Thanks guys
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Old 10-21-2007, 06:11 PM   #2
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You'll only lose muscle if you do a couple of things

-starve
-don't lift
-don't get enough protein

As long as you don't do any of the above 3 and have a caloric deficit you will lose fat and maintain muscle.

So to answer your question - eat whatever the hell you want as long as you get some decent nutrition (from a health perspective you will want to get veggies in there). Personally for me I could not eat pizza and expect to loose much fat, because I have to limit carbs. But at the same time I can't eat cups and cups of oats either, because I have to limit my carbs. Just work whatever you are doing into your macros and all will be well.
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Old 10-21-2007, 08:24 PM   #3
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You'll only lose muscle if you do a couple of things

-starve
-don't lift
-don't get enough protein

As long as you don't do any of the above 3 and have a caloric deficit you will lose fat and maintain muscle.

So to answer your question - eat whatever the hell you want as long as you get some decent nutrition (from a health perspective you will want to get veggies in there). Personally for me I could not eat pizza and expect to loose much fat, because I have to limit carbs. But at the same time I can't eat cups and cups of oats either, because I have to limit my carbs. Just work whatever you are doing into your macros and all will be well.
Thanks.

Any other statements from others though? I've been getting a lot of varied responses from people off-site.
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Old 10-21-2007, 08:28 PM   #4
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foods like pizza and fast foods are loaded in HFCS and arent the best on the body.. there are a lot cleaner choices out there.. and cant u just buy clean foods in bulk? such as tons of chicken breasts / brown rice / peanut butter

or even a ton of eggs? you can practically live off stuff like that and add in some fruits and veggies and u have simple meals that you can tupperware for the week and is defintaely cheaper..

but in all honesty if you can maintain 1g of protein per lb and get enough carbs and fats to fit ur macros from eating ****.. then by all means go for it.. u maybe wont keep off some fat.. but it will work.. im jus sayin that if you eat cleaner you will be able to maybe cut a bit better and get a better physique.. but as long as u keep that caloric defecit ur good to go bro
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foods like pizza and fast foods are loaded in HFCS and arent the best on the body..
Lol, since when is pizza of all things loaded with HFCS?
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I really don't want to bump, but is there nobody else who thinks they know how the amount of fat found in junk food affects weight loss? And is willing to post it? It'd really help me out
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Old 10-22-2007, 02:15 PM   #7
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I really don't want to bump, but is there nobody else who thinks they know how the amount of fat found in junk food affects weight loss? And is willing to post it? It'd really help me out
Calories in vs calories out would be the logical answer, considering your question. It would be a total waste of time talking about glycemic load, fatty acid composition, micronutrient density, fiber content when it relates to junk food so eat under maintainence, and you will lose weight.
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I really don't want to bump, but is there nobody else who thinks they know how the amount of fat found in junk food affects weight loss? And is willing to post it? It'd really help me out
I dont know if it technically matters where the calories come from when losing weight, but one thing I would think about is you can really help the process by eating multiple meals a day and when you eat things like pizza, muffins and fast food it makes it nearly impossible to eat 5-6 times a day and have a calorie defecit.

I dont think anyone HAS to eat junk food, in my opinion time and money are just excuses to eat it...not that there is anything wrong with eating it if thats what you want. I just have a hard time listening when someone says they dont have time/money to eat good.

Good luck on the cut
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:01 PM   #9
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It certainly does matter where the calories are coming from. Lower insulin levels = more fat burning and less fat storing. To keep them low dont eat high GI carbs and eat almonds and brocolli with everymeal to keep insulin spike low and slow food digestion down. School hamburgers suck cuase there not lean and the buns are bad carbs so r most muffins
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