Hey guys,
Man I seriously dont know where to start.
Ive tried so many diets, been doing YOYO's all of the time. I feel so depressed its quite unreal.
Im 16, weigh around 170lbs and 5' 5''. I am beginning to get stretch marks on either side of my body (either side of belly button) and I REALLY want to change something. I feel terrible, I look terrible.
Ive tried the Atkins route, tried my absolute best but I just cant do it I un able to function with that sort of diet I just have 0% energy on it - Ive had 2 failed attempts on it now .
I really dont know what I need to be doing exactly.... Im so confused right now I dont know which direction to go in.
Can anyone take some time to help me please?
To be quite honest with you guys, I feel like a complete failure with regards to my body I mean I feel like ****. Im just so annoyed.
Any input appriciated greatly.
thanks
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10-20-2007, 03:46 PM #1
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10-20-2007, 03:53 PM #2
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The problem with many weight loss diets is that it's such a radical change in lifestyle, which is why many people do fail.
Never fear though, keep the faith and believe that you can do it.
Start with small changes to your daily habits. If you drink soda, cut that out. After a few weeks, cut out something else. Occassionally add good things to your diet. Try eating smaller portions, and eat slower. If you eat slower you'll give your body time to realize it's full.
You're very young, changing your life doesn't have to happen all at once. Slow is steady, and steady is fast.
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10-20-2007, 06:48 PM #8
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10-21-2007, 02:37 AM #9
Nah I have dieted with excercise & weight training, I've dieted alot belive me, just 2 of the times were using the Atkins route.
Thanks The thing is, I do not eat that much to begin with.
Normal Routine...
Breakfast: 30G Kellogs Special K
Lunch: A Sandwich (Chicken w/ low fat mayo) & hula hoops.
Dinner: Small Bowl Of Pasta/Bowl of 30g cereal/2 pieces of toast + beans
Snacks: 300ml orange juice, occasionaly 30g cereal bowl @ night, pure water.
See what I mean?
Personally I dont know why I'm gaining weight. I do 2 miles of walking a day (isnt much compared to you lot but I feel its quite a bit).
My mum has said there is a thyroid 'problem' within the family- she suggested that because I'm often tired, get migranes and I have cramps quite often in my legs/toes.
Further help appriciated.Thanks, tru-wun.
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10-21-2007, 04:36 AM #10
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You should drink the juice in the morning with the breakfast for carbs instead of just as a snack, and you should definately try eating something in between each meal, something small like a banana or a string cheese. Something to keep the metabolism going.
As far as the walking, is that all you do for exercise? Sometimes the body will adjust itself and the routine won't have the same effect if you do it for too long. You might want to try changing it up a little bit, even if that only means adding a bit of jogging in during your two miles.
Trust me, I know exactly what you're going through. I attempted to get in shape twice before and met with failure until my (now) third shot. It's not easy. Rather than think of yourself as having failed with your body, consider everything until now and beyond to be merely trial and error in the grand scheme of things.
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10-21-2007, 04:42 AM #11
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I've bolded some problems above.
1 - not enough food. Your metabolism is likely slowed to the point where fat loss is very difficult because you are starving yourself.
2 - way too many carbs. I've bolded each time you're eating carbs. You have practically no protein or healthy fats in your diet
3 - eating carbs before bed = fat gain. If you must eat before bed, make it protein or healthy fats.
4 - absence of veggies or fruits.
Seriously, have you read the stickies in this section?
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3768961
Also, DJohnson's post deserve's quoting again, as this weblink will give you everything you need to succeed (no I don't work for Tom Venuto )
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10-21-2007, 06:02 AM #12
IMO, it isn't the "radical change in lifetyle," which causes failure. Rather, it is the lack of quick results. Living in a time of instant gratification, if some do not see dramatic results in a few weeks, or a few months, then it isn't wort doing. Losing fat for the long term is a very mental state of mind.
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10-22-2007, 01:12 AM #13
At the moment I have a cup of tea with 1 sweetner in. I cant eat much more because I just don't feel hungry. Ive tried the "eat every 3 hours" thing to keep metabolism going and I cant do it because my parents were moaning I was eating too much so I dropped it.
Originally Posted by Aftershock9958
1- As mentioned above I cant eat much more, and when I did try to my parents were saying I was eating too much so that made me thing... hmm maybe I am and its not going to help at all. I mean my brother of 14 eats nothing during the day - he might have a pack of biscuits for breakfast and 2 bacon sandwiches for lunch and big bowl of pasta for dinner and then lots of chocolate in the night... he doenst put weight on!
2- Im just eating what my family eats, just really small portions. I cant see how adding some protein will all of a sudden make a diffrence.
3- Ive read that carbs before bed is a myth as the body still burns whilst still sleeping.
4- I have lots of carrots brocoli sweetcorn on a sunday thats about it. As for fruit I have the occasional apple or orange.
The reason my points sound like I dont really care is kind of because my brother doesn't eat anything like he "should" nor does any skinny person I know so how exactly are they skinny and I'm not? I mean that is my faily routine basically and I dont think I eat enough and neither do you so why the hell is my weight rising?
And yes I have read the stickies many many but Id rather a personal answer rather than a guideline for everyone.
True maybe for some people but Ive been trying to diet for over 3 years now and my mind is like being pushed to its limit because Im not seeing anything happen and Im getting quite fed up with it but i dont want to be! I just want to be slim like my bro or my mates!Last edited by tru-wun; 10-22-2007 at 01:17 AM.
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10-22-2007, 01:56 AM #14
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It sounds like you are doing near enough exercise. The only way you would lose weight with hardly no exercise is for your diet to be perfect, and your diet doesn't come close. You aren't eating enough, and you are eating way too many carbs, not enough protein or healthy fats. Simple as that chief. Get to the school gym if it has one or a park, i don't want to hear that you are embarrassed, we all were when we started out. But you know what, who gives a **** what others think, it is your life, live it. There are really fat people in my gym, they get respect for being there, they are doing something about it, and a couple who i have spoken to have dropped weight and are making progress.
2 miles a day walking? I do more than that for a warm up before i start exercising! You need to start doing an hour a day, be it lifting some weights or cardio. It isn't a long time! Do both, don't look at is as a chore, get an mp3 player, the time flies by.
Also, talk to your parents, make them understand you are trying to lose weight, they should listen to you about eating more if you explain it to them. You say your brother eats **** all day or hardly eats nothing, i am guessing he is skinny fat, looks like ****. You don't want to be like that. Lift some weights and do your cardio! Stop looking in to BS like the atkins diet. Eat healthy, yes you have read this before, but it sounds like you need to read it again, that means your fish (mainly tuna, it is cheap), chicken, cottage cheese, vegetables, potatoes, rice, lean meats, nuts, oats, boiled eggs. Lay off the bread and if you do want a slice go with whole wheat bread if you have to have it. Don't eat crisps. If you eat pasta, don't have slices of bread on the side. Keep the portions small, eat from a cereal bowl to start off!
Try and find a friend to exercise with!
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10-22-2007, 03:29 AM #15
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You are not ready to lose weight.
There, I said it. You say "my mind is being pushed to its limit because I'm not seeing anything happen", yet this is what happens:
1) You think the stickies don't have value because it's not personalized (big mistake)
2) When I give you some very quick, yet VERY GOOD suggestions on your personal diet, you give me back excuses why the things I mention can't be done.
Someone once said "If you want something you've never had, you need to do things you've never done". In your case, if you keep following what you've been doing (and keep scratching your head wondering how hard it is to lose weight), you will remain fat. OR, you can take the advice of people here (like myself) who have actually LOST fat and GAINED muscle and we can help you succeed. But like I said, you are not ready to make the necessary changes, so you are not ready to be lean and muscular. Sorry if this is blunt, but excuses don't burn fat - FACT.It's hard to win an argument with a smart person. It's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person. - Bill Murray
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10-22-2007, 04:02 AM #16
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Think about this for a second. What's more embarrassing, jogging and exercising in front of people, or watching your stretch marks get bigger and bigger?
Luckily for me I got my mind right before the stretch marks came in, but my brother on the other hand will absolutely not be outdoors without a shirt on. He has the stretch marks on his stomach and is very embarrassed by both them and his body size. Unfortunately, he's also like you in that he doesn't seem to want to work towards changing it yet.
Obviously I'm not telling you to disobey your parents, but if they're only hassling you and not telling you to stop, then keep doing it. So your brother eats nothing and he doesn't gain weight, so what? How does that effect you? You want a personalized answer, yet you want to inject someone else's conditions, thus un-personalizing it.
You need to have the right mindset for this, and right now I don't think you have it.
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10-22-2007, 06:49 AM #17
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Don't let yourself feel like a failure what at least your are trying to do what other kids your age aren't even concerned with. Consider that you are in a learning phase. At your age, you can't be expected to know what you need to do yet.
BUT....you can be expected to be researching it. Read as much as you can. I think most diets you will research work, you just have to find the one that you will follow. It's not the diets that don't work, it's US! I am like you, certain diets make me moody, BUT...that moodiness passes if you stick it out. I did learn that. When I did find the diet that worked for me, I was CRANKY and GROUCHY for two months. That could just possibly be a woman thing, though! BUT...you make it past the moody stage into the wow, I feel great stage! It's hard, but it's worth it!
Hang tough!
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You have way too many carbs in your diet, which seems to be predominantly cereal, pasta, toast and orange juice. People that can eat "normally" without getting fat have different genetics... if you're getting fat on "normal" foods, you need to change up your macros (your calorie count is of great but IMO lesser importance than your macro ratios). Don't quit too soon when trying Atkins or a different type of ketogenic diet, as your body will need time to adapt. You can also reduce your carb intake without lowering it so much as to go into ketosis. Play around with your macro ratios until you find a good fit.
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10-22-2007, 09:41 AM #20
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This could also be due to dehydration. Cut out any and all sodas and drink lots and lots of water.
How much water you might ask?
Read these comments from the MayoClinic:
Every day you lose water through your breath, perspiration, urine and bowel movements. For your body to function properly, you must replenish its water supply by consuming beverages and foods that contain water.
A couple of approaches attempt to approximate water needs for the average, healthy adult living in a temperate climate.
Replacement approach. The average urine output for adults is 1.5 liters a day. You lose close to an additional liter of water a day through breathing, sweating and bowel movements. Food usually accounts for 20 percent of your total fluid intake, so if you consume 2 liters of water or other beverages a day (a little more than 8 cups) along with your normal diet, you will typically replace the lost fluids.
Dietary recommendations. The Institute of Medicine advises that men consume roughly 3.0 liters (about 13 cups) of total beverages a day and women consume 2.2 liters (about 9 cups) of total beverages a day.
Add even more water if you exercise.
The benefits of drinking more water are noticable if you are dehydrated most of the time. You will notice improvements in your energy level mentally and physically from day one.
Water helps:
remove toxins and waste products from your body
keep your Skin Healthy and Glowing
you Lose Weight
Reduce Headaches and Dizziness
allow for proper Digestion
keep your body more Alkaline vs. something like coke that makes your body acidic.
Just an observation. I didnt see anywhere in your posts about how much water you drink, except for water at night. Take a bottle of water with you everywhere you go, and you dont have to worry about it. Also, if your getting craps, it could be a lack of potassium. Eat a banana and make sure your getting all your vitamins on a daily basis.
PS: If your piss is dark yellow then thats a good indicator that your not getting enough water. If your piss is clear or pale yellow then your doing a good job.Last edited by Sean Casey; 10-22-2007 at 10:17 AM.
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10-22-2007, 02:05 PM #21
I cant see how I am eating to much carbs? I thought it was okay becaused based on the weight watchers diet (points value) providing I eat what I usually eat I keep under that point value thus "should" loose weight. I know exactly what your saying with the fat people at the gym I actually started to go swimming 3 times a week. I only did this for two weeks because I found it too hard to work, and fit it in with my lifestyle. You're probably thinking - well adapt... well I did try and it was just jumbling everything up making it a nightmare.
Originally Posted by Fendi
As for bread, im sorry that I didnt mention but I have numble bread which is very finely sliced and is whole wheat bread. With pasta I never have bread on teh side and I always have a cereal bowl full which is quite small.
Sorry but the way you are wording it is as if I never been on a diet before, I eat shed loads of **** food a day and I do no movement and I just sit at home. Do you thinking im trying to make these excuses? Do you really think that I am enjoying how I am? Well there you go, of course im not TBH mate I feel like total S and your probably thing well its your fault. The point im trying to make is Im not eating that bad foods! I mean its not as if im eating crisps, chocolate, sweets, cakes etc etc! If I was eating all of that then I couldnt exactly moan could I? I mean that would be my fault.
Yeh I see what your saying.
Originally Posted by Aftershock
Well this is why. Im not doing it for anyone else. Im doing it for myself, please beleive me that I have been trying to diet for 3 years now - I mean you guys cant say "oh he tried a 2 week diet and is giving up". Im not!
Everywhere I go I have x2 500ml bottles of mineral water. On an average day I'd say about 1.5L per day of water. Pee is usually clear/pale yellow btw.
Thanks for the replies, really really appricaited. Please dont see any of my replies as a flame or whatever I just want you guys to understand why I feel like I am.
Im not some fat slob that its eating a pile of junk everyday and moaning about it finding every excuse under the sun to make myself not excercise.
ThanksLast edited by tru-wun; 10-22-2007 at 02:07 PM.
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10-22-2007, 02:17 PM #22
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I'm not sure how the WW points system works, but a diet should have the right macros. If all your "points" are carbs, then you aren't getting enough protein and fat. You need to make sure you get more lean protein in your diet (chicken, fish, etc..) and Essential Fats (Nuts, Fish, etc...) Do a search for macros, there is a lot of useful information on this site.
No one is too busy to fit time in their day for a work out. If you want to lose weight, then fit in the time needed for the workout. No Excuses.
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10-22-2007, 02:28 PM #23
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You also state in your original post that you've been YOYO dieting. Consistency is the key to success, and you are no exception to this rule. If your diet is fairly clean but your still gaining weight, then your either taking in to many calories or not enough calories. If your currently 170lbs then your daily caloric needs range from approx 2210 - 2550. Slightly higher if you exercise. If your daily calories are around this range right now, then cut your calories by 500 for the next couple of week and see what happens. You need to be in a mild caloric deficite to safely and slowly lose weight. Aim for 1lb per week, and forget YOYO dieting.
The key to a great body:
Weight Lifting
Cardio
Proper Nutrition
If your lacking in any of these 3 areas then you will have limited and inconsistent results at best.
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10-22-2007, 05:06 PM #24
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We've given you the direction and advice you need. I see a lot of excuses why you won't do the advice, but not too much humility and respect for people WHO HAVE LOST WEIGHT SUCCESSFULLY. Read that bolded part again. You don't know how to do it - WE DO!
In the end, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. When you're ready, grasshopper, come back and see us again. Until then I'm done. If you lack the modesty or motivation, I'm not going to push you into it.
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10-22-2007, 05:21 PM #27
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The way i lost 5 stone in a year :
Religeous cardio - boxing for 90 mins mon, wed and fri night
Eating healthy - not on a diet but just common sense, you know whats right and whats wrong !
The 'cheat meal' - allow yourself one meal a week in which you can eat whatever you want
MIND - at the end of the day if you really want it you will get it, but it doesn't come overnight, and when people start to notice your efforts you will feel amazing. Trust me !
hope that could help
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10-22-2007, 05:38 PM #28
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The point I was trying to make about my brother is he eats lots of foods that I (and most people on here) would consider as junk food. Yet he does not put on ANY weight at all. The point im trying to make is im not eating junk food but im piling on the pounds!!!
So does that mean I can eat the same things and drink as much alcohol as them and have the same results? Probably not. But what does it matter what they do? I have to do what's right for my body.
And you have to do what's right for your body, not what's right for your brother's body.
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10-28-2007, 02:53 PM #29
Hey guys
sorry for the no reply, my internet went down! .
Well at the moment im going to try the WeightWatchers diet, and stick with 18 points per day. I am going to look to purchase a excercise bike or maybe fix my mountain bike and find a route to do every night and see if that helps.
When I go on this WeightWatchers diet my meals for tommorow will probably be the following:
Breakfast: Special K 50G 3 Points + Cup of Tea
Lunch: 2 Sandwiches with thin bread, chicken (weighed) with light mayo. 4.5 Points
Dinner: Fresh tomatoes, with garlic. 2 Pitta breads. 5 Points
Misc: Approx 8 cups of tea throughout the day.1 Point for milk
1 Packet of crisps 2 Points
Total: 15 Points
3 remaining for snacks such as crackers @ .5 point each
Now in my eyes, that is a really small amount of food. This is what I have done in the past and I've been ok sucessfull but not what I want.
I like myself to stick to the WeightWatchers method simply because I dont feel bad about what I eat. When I choose to eat foods but get told to "eat reasonably" I end up feeling bad even if I do eat a small amount.
Now I really have read the replies, and understand where your comming from and Im doing my best to understand you guys. The help is really appriciated honestly.
Can any of you guys spot anything out with the diet plan mentioned for above?
Thanks,
Tru-WunLast edited by tru-wun; 10-28-2007 at 02:55 PM.
Thanks, tru-wun.
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