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ephedra 500mg

I still have a bottle of Sci Fit Ephedra Extract 500 mg...what does this equal in terms of straight ephedrine, like i know stacker 2 used to have 25 mg ephedrine...
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I still have a bottle of Sci Fit Ephedra Extract 500 mg...what does this equal in terms of straight ephedrine, like i know stacker 2 used to have 25 mg ephedrine...
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It should say on the bottle.
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it says standard for 40mg ephedra alkaloids....is that the same as straight ephedrine?
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it says standard for 40mg ephedra alkaloids....is that the same as straight ephedrine?
No ephedrine HCL and ephedra are different. Do not use more than 20mg of ephedra at one time.
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well one serving of Sci Fit Ephedra 1000, is 40 mg ephedra alkaloids....so ephedra alkaloids is the same as ephedrine hcl?
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well one serving of Sci Fit Ephedra 1000, is 40 mg ephedra alkaloids....so ephedra alkaloids is the same as ephedrine hcl?
No ephedrine HCL and ephedra are different. Do not use more than 20mg of ephedra at one time.
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well i'm sayin the pills have 40mg in them and that is what it says to take for one serving....
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well i'm sayin the pills have 40mg in them and that is what it says to take for one serving....
Than go for it brother. LOL
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well i'm sayin the pills have 40mg in them and that is what it says to take for one serving....
It would be stupid to take 40 mg's of ephedrine at one time, IMO.
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It would be stupid to take 40 mg's of ephedrine at one time, IMO.
No bro let him do it.
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It would be stupid to take 40 mg's of ephedrine at one time, IMO.
i'd probably stay at 25 mg's at a time, 40 is too much
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come on people! Try to understsand what he's asking!
He's not asking whether 40mg of ephedrine are fine but whether 40mg of "ephedra alkaloids" are fine. Now since that stuff he's got is made from natural ephedra I assume that ephedra alkaloids are not the same as artificial ephedrine and thus 40mg are fine. Besides, why would one serving contain 40mg of ephedra alkaloids if according to you 40mg of it are too much?

NOTE I'm talking about "ephedra alkaloids" and not "ephedrine HCL"! I know that taking any more than 25mg of ephedrine at once is dangerous.

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I still have a bottle of Sci Fit Ephedra Extract 500 mg...what does this equal in terms of straight ephedrine, like i know stacker 2 used to have 25 mg ephedrine...
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It's basically 40 mg of straight ephedrine. To compare, Stacker2 has 25 mg. Does the SciFit brand have any caffeine or other stimulants? 40 mg of ephedrine per dose is definitely over the top.
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Nope nothin else in it....I've taken a whole bottle before and it works great even stackin it...All I'm askin here is what it is compareable. I mean Sh*t I've got this Kaizen Ephedrine that has 60mg ephedrine in each cap...
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Stick with pure Ephedrine HCL (EC stack)
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geeez people, i'm not asking how much i should take or whatever, all I asked was a simple what is the comparison question....
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geeez people, i'm not asking how much i should take or whatever, all I asked was a simple what is the comparison question....
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thanks! that was the answer i was looking for
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but wait, according to that article ephedrine is only useful for obese people because it only stimulates sns. it says ephedrine hcl is the one that stimulates cns...
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but wait, according to that article ephedrine is only useful for obese people because it only stimulates sns. it says ephedrine hcl is the one that stimulates cns...
1) No. Read it again.

2) Ephedrine HCL is the way to go. But not for the reason above.
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well i might as well throw this ephedra 1000 out cause i'm no where near obese, i'm just tryin to get cut....
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well i might as well throw this ephedra 1000 out cause i'm no where near obese, i'm just tryin to get cut....
No need to throw it out. It just isn't the "best" option available. It will be relatively safe if taken as directed by a healthy individual. DO NOT EXCEED the recommended dose.
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No need to throw it out. It just isn't the "best" option available. It will be relatively safe if taken as directed by a healthy individual. DO NOT EXCEED the recommended dose.
no i mean throw it out because the above post/link said that ephedrine just stimulates the sns which only obese people need stimulated. ephedrine hcl stimulates the cns which is what i need stimulated to cut
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no i mean throw it out because the above post/link said that ephedrine just stimulates the sns which only obese people need stimulated. ephedrine hcl stimulates the cns which is what i need stimulated to cut
NO.
READ IT AGAIN.
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well i'm confused now, earlier in the article it said this "Ephedrine HCL is a synthetic form of the CNS stimulating ephedrine group alkaloid called ephedrine."
then it said this
"Ephedrine is probably the most effective herbal alkaloid at stimulating a non-active Sympathetic Nervous System (SNS). Obesity can be directly linked to an inactive SNS. Ephedrine has been proven to increase in weight loss for obese individuals, but has no effect by itself in lean individuals (lean individuals do not need SNS stimulation, they just need CNS stimulation- put more fat in the blood). Caffeine by itself keeps lean individuals lean by keeping circulating blood lipid levels higher than normal."

so its saying first ephedrine stimulates the cns than it says that it doens't....
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well one serving of Sci Fit Ephedra 1000, is 40 mg ephedra alkaloids....so ephedra alkaloids is the same as ephedrine hcl?
almost, those were some strong ass pills and one of the reasons ephedra got banned. I would not take more than 1/3rd that amount at a time.
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Old 06-28-2005, 08:47 AM   #27
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well i'm confused now, earlier in the article it said this "Ephedrine HCL is a synthetic form of the CNS stimulating ephedrine group alkaloid called ephedrine."
then it said this
"Ephedrine is probably the most effective herbal alkaloid at stimulating a non-active Sympathetic Nervous System (SNS). Obesity can be directly linked to an inactive SNS. Ephedrine has been proven to increase in weight loss for obese individuals, but has no effect by itself in lean individuals (lean individuals do not need SNS stimulation, they just need CNS stimulation- put more fat in the blood). Caffeine by itself keeps lean individuals lean by keeping circulating blood lipid levels higher than normal."

so its saying first ephedrine stimulates the cns than it says that it doens't....
can someone clear this up?
You're not reading the entire article.

"Ephedrine is not as good as caffeine at stimulating the CNS, but when combined with caffeine, the two work in synergy because ephedrine prevents the break down of epinephrine released by the caffeine, enhancing caffeine's CNS stimulating effects."

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