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    My Journey to change

    What's up everyone, I am going to start this log, so it will keep me honest and motivated. Feel free to comment on anything you see!

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    Sweet bro, a log nice!

    When ya post your pics see if ya can find a tailoring tape and measure yourself using the video examples in your bodyspace.

    Post some weights and heights here too..

    I wouldn't start the EC stack right off the bat - see if ya can give a good diet a month or two solid, then I'll give ya all the EC stack info and sources ya need.
    First month should be huge success - lots of water loss, and a lot of people lose 10lb+ easy.
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    Here are the pictures, not the best camera I will get my girlfriend to take better shots tom!

    I am 6'2 about 254-255.

    Try not to go blind!
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    Got a lot of work ahead of ya bro, but it's do-able!

    Keep at it, and the days will fly by - take pics in a month and compare em to those ya just posted.
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    Originally Posted by derickonfire View Post
    Got a lot of work ahead of ya bro, but it's do-able!

    Keep at it, and the days will fly by - take pics in a month and compare em to those ya just posted.
    Yea I plan on it. Yea I wish when I ran cross country my senior year in High School, I just kept in shape, but when I moved out on my own and came to college I gained about 15-20 pounds. Now it is time to change again, and I will. I am tired of not being able to go places with family and most of all my brother because I am ashamed of my weight. I will not even take my shirt off at the beach, it sucks, but I will change.

    Hey man I just went ahead and purchased that fitday program for the 20 bucks, do you know if I can link my charts on here?

    I figured I wouldnt be able to, because it does not have a url, but I did not know if there was a way around it.
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    Originally Posted by lightzout36 View Post
    Yea I plan on it. Yea I wish when I ran cross country my senior year in High School, I just kept in shape, but when I moved out on my own and came to college I gained about 15-20 pounds. Now it is time to change again, and I will. I am tired of not being able to go places with family and most of all my brother because I am ashamed of my weight. I will not even take my shirt off at the beach, it sucks, but I will change.

    Hey man I just went ahead and purchased that fitday program for the 20 bucks, do you know if I can link my charts on here?

    I figured I wouldnt be able to, because it does not have a url, but I did not know if there was a way around it.
    Ya can do screenshots and host them to imageshack
    http://imageshack.us/

    fitday is awesome! I haven't boughten it because I need an online version because I use 2 computers during the day.. but otherwise I totally would!

    Or just post your ending day calories and percentages of macros.. (Fat/carbs/protein)
    I prefer informalities.
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    Originally Posted by derickonfire View Post
    Ya can do screenshots and host them to imageshack
    http://imageshack.us/

    fitday is awesome! I haven't boughten it because I need an online version because I use 2 computers during the day.. but otherwise I totally would!

    Or just post your ending day calories and percentages of macros.. (Fat/carbs/protein)
    Sorry to ask so many questions but I am trying to get the supplement post right.

    Ok so right now I take:
    1 Animal Pak
    Whey Protein(I make shakes that fit into my diet)

    Questions:
    Why do you take that Green Mag Creatin Stuff on your off days?
    What is the difference between the Green Mag and White Flood?
    Is NO-Explode the same as White Flood?
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    Originally Posted by lightzout36 View Post
    Sorry to ask so many questions but I am trying to get the supplement post right.

    Ok so right now I take:
    1 Animal Pak
    Whey Protein(I make shakes that fit into my diet)

    Questions:
    Why do you take that Green Mag Creatin Stuff on your off days?
    What is the difference between the Green Mag and White Flood?
    Is NO-Explode the same as White Flood?
    Basically White Flood is a NO (Nitric Oxide) which is what NO-Explode is.

    I take the Green Mag on off days because the Torrent I take also has creatine in it, and I take that on my workout days. Understand? both these supps have creatine, the green mag is creatine only (with supporters) so I supplement with that on days I don't take torrent.

    I use whey protein as needed too.. Usuallt 1-3 scoops a day.. mixed with oats, or as 'chocolate' milk on the side with a meal.
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    Originally Posted by derickonfire View Post
    Basically White Flood is a NO (Nitric Oxide) which is what NO-Explode is.

    I take the Green Mag on off days because the Torrent I take also has creatine in it, and I take that on my workout days. Understand? both these supps have creatine, the green mag is creatine only (with supporters) so I supplement with that on days I don't take torrent.

    I use whey protein as needed too.. Usuallt 1-3 scoops a day.. mixed with oats, or as 'chocolate' milk on the side with a meal.
    I see so if I wanted to I could use NO-Explode. I think what I will do, is keep what I have now and get some Green Mag for my creain, get some of those fish oil pills, and get soe casein for a night time snack(not a big fan of cottage cheese). I also have some Lipo 6, should I take that to?

    So that will put me at:
    1 Animal Pak
    Whey Pretein Shakes(post workout)
    Green Mag(pre or post workout?)
    Fish oil
    Casein Shakes
    Lipo 6?
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    Originally Posted by lightzout36 View Post
    I see so if I wanted to I could use NO-Explode. I think what I will do, is keep what I have now and get some Green Mag for my creain, get some of those fish oil pills, and get soe casein for a night time snack(not a big fan of cottage cheese). I also have some Lipo 6, should I take that to?

    So that will put me at:
    1 Animal Pak
    Whey Pretein Shakes(post workout)
    Green Mag(pre or post workout?)
    Fish oil
    Casein Shakes
    Lipo 6?
    Remember casein is a slow protein - so use it moderately. Just at night would be fine.

    I have no experience on Lipo 6, can't help there sorry.

    If you feel that you need extra energy pre-workout, the NO could help (I really love my White Flood, if you're looking at buying some) but a healthy pre-workout meal with some complex carbs (rice / grains / oats) is an excellent start for pre-workout energy.
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    Originally Posted by derickonfire View Post
    Remember casein is a slow protein - so use it moderately. Just at night would be fine.

    I have no experience on Lipo 6, can't help there sorry.

    If you feel that you need extra energy pre-workout, the NO could help (I really love my White Flood, if you're looking at buying some) but a healthy pre-workout meal with some complex carbs (rice / grains / oats) is an excellent start for pre-workout energy.
    Yea I could use an extra boost before going to the gym.

    Alright so I will order,
    Creatin
    White Flood
    Casein

    I will just continue to use my WHEY protein as my post workout shake, and I already have some fish oil, so I will just start taking those.
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    Phew!

    What a day, I did legs today and I must say they are sore and got worked out well. I was not able to do my cardio right after lifting, but I went for a lite jog/walk later in the afternoon. I do not know what it is but everytime I lift for leg day, my stomach hurts and turns very bad, I get lite headed, and have to take a break. I waited 30 minutes after I ate today, could this be happening because I am not eatting enough?

    Uh diet was ok . . .
    2179 calories, wasnt really hungry today
    80 fat
    160 carbs
    215 protein

    Protein came up a little short.
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    Not too bad.. you see your problems, that's important.

    Are you new to weights?

    The sick feeling seems kind of common after a brutal workout - just make sure it's not because your literally 'exhausted' and not recovering fully. That could lead to some problems... I've had friends land themselves in a hospital bed for overworking / under eating.
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    Originally Posted by derickonfire View Post
    Not too bad.. you see your problems, that's important.

    Are you new to weights?

    The sick feeling seems kind of common after a brutal workout - just make sure it's not because your literally 'exhausted' and not recovering fully. That could lead to some problems... I've had friends land themselves in a hospital bed for overworking / under eating.
    Yea man, I really feel like I am about to pass out, maybe I need to eat more before my workout on leg days. It only happens on leg days. I had to come stright back to my apartment and lay down, to stop the stomach turning, then I got up made my shake and have felt fine the rest of the day. I only had 395 calories at breakfast:/ maybe I need to up that some?
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    Originally Posted by lightzout36 View Post
    Yea man, I really feel like I am about to pass out, maybe I need to eat more before my workout on leg days. It only happens on leg days. I had to come stright back to my apartment and lay down, to stop the stomach turning, then I got up made my shake and have felt fine the rest of the day. I only had 395 calories at breakfast:/ maybe I need to up that some?
    You workout in the AM?

    Definitely eat more.. get a lot of good complex carbs pre-workout and a shake 2 seconds to 10 minutes post workout. Then eat another meal within 40-60 minutes after workout.

    Imo, those meals are the most important.. pre and post workout.

    Once you get those covered - eat as normal for the rest of the day as long as ya fit into your calories and macros.

    Make sense?
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    Originally Posted by derickonfire View Post
    You workout in the AM?

    Definitely eat more.. get a lot of good complex carbs pre-workout and a shake 2 seconds to 10 minutes post workout. Then eat another meal within 40-60 minutes after workout.

    Imo, those meals are the most important.. pre and post workout.

    Once you get those covered - eat as normal for the rest of the day as long as ya fit into your calories and macros.

    Make sense?
    Yea on MWF I get to the gym for 9 for a class that I am in, so I have to get up early lol, but I will do it and on T and TH I get to the gym around 10, more time to sleep and get my food down. I know you say eatting the same thing everyday gets old and I agree but for breakfast this would be best for me since I am limited time and I can wake up knowing what I am going to eat.

    So for breakfast what would be the best thing to eat?
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    Originally Posted by lightzout36 View Post
    Yea on MWF I get to the gym for 9 for a class that I am in, so I have to get up early lol, but I will do it and on T and TH I get to the gym around 10, more time to sleep and get my food down. I know you say eatting the same thing everyday gets old and I agree but for breakfast this would be best for me since I am limited time and I can wake up knowing what I am going to eat.

    So for breakfast what would be the best thing to eat?
    I have 1 cup oats, one scoop double rich chocolate optimum whey, some splenda, and sometimes 1 serving of peanut butter...all mixed together..

    Almost every morning.
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    Originally Posted by derickonfire View Post
    I have 1 cup oats, one scoop double rich chocolate optimum whey, some splenda, and sometimes 1 serving of peanut butter...all mixed together..

    Almost every morning.
    Can you just buy oats? I have seen almonds and peanuts but I have yet to see a can of oats.
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    Originally Posted by lightzout36 View Post
    Can you just buy oats? I have seen almonds and peanuts but I have yet to see a can of oats.
    Breakfast isle.

    Cylinder tubes.. like Quaker.

    Look for instant oats - they microwave in minutes.

    Stay away from the single packaged stuff - they're usually small, and full of sugars.
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    Originally Posted by derickonfire View Post
    Breakfast isle.

    Cylinder tubes.. like Quaker.

    Look for instant oats - they microwave in minutes.

    Stay away from the single packaged stuff - they're usually small, and full of sugars.
    Is what you eat more than the 395 calories I took in this morning tho? If not what else should I add in there to get my calories up so I am not so weak after my workouts?

    Do you have an AIM screen name, that would be easier than this? lol
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    Originally Posted by lightzout36 View Post
    Is what you eat more than the 395 calories I took in this morning tho? If not what else should I add in there to get my calories up so I am not so weak after my workouts?

    Do you have an AIM screen name, that would be easier than this? lol
    1 cup oats - 300 cals
    1 scoop protein - 130ish cals
    .. thats 430.

    Peanut butter - 200 cals..

    that's 630...

    Fruit also works good, blueberries, strawberries, bananas..

    milk..
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    Originally Posted by derickonfire View Post
    1 cup oats - 300 cals
    1 scoop protein - 130ish cals
    .. thats 430.

    Peanut butter - 200 cals..

    that's 630...

    Fruit also works good, blueberries, strawberries, bananas..

    milk..
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    Originally Posted by lightzout36 View Post
    you have an AIM screen name?
    msn =P
    I prefer informalities.
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    Well today was really good. It was my off day from weights, which I am glad because I was still a little sore from monday and tuesday. However, I woke up at normal time, around 8am had me a very good breakfast and hit up some cardio for an hour. I felt real good, and was sweating my ass off when I was finished, so I was excited.

    As far as the diet goes my breakfast, and PWO meal were good, then I headed back to my parents house because me and my dad were going to go ride our motorcycles. I had a very good club salad from a place by my house, and then later I had some noodles with this meat sauce my dad made. I know it was not the best thing to eat but damn it was good. No cheat meal this weekend lol.

    I believe my protein was a little low again, but I am not sure on the amount of turkey and ham that was on that salad, and that meat sauce had lean beef in it, so I think I did ok.

    I will be back in the gym tom, and will make sure I hit my protein total for tom. Anyway, cardio felt good, had some good meals today, and got to spend some time with my dad. I can not wait to get back in the gym tom.

    I am thinking about doing some HIIT at night time, 5 days a week, would this be wise??
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    I'd stick with HIIT 3-4x a week max or on OFF-DAYS only.

    Make it your only cardio source unless you eat more for the day.

    Take some casein pre-bed on days ya think your protein is low.. 1-2 scoops should add 20-40g of protein.

    Keep it up.
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    Originally Posted by derickonfire View Post
    I'd stick with HIIT 3-4x a week max or on OFF-DAYS only.

    Make it your only cardio source unless you eat more for the day.

    Take some casein pre-bed on days ya think your protein is low.. 1-2 scoops should add 20-40g of protein.

    Keep it up.
    Yea my casein should be in tom. I will do HIIT on my off days, and just do regular cardio on life days.

    Yea I am keeping it up. It just sucks, that you bust ur ass doing your cardio and lifting weights, and you feel great but see nothing lol. I know it takes time, but you know haha.
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    Originally Posted by lightzout36 View Post
    Yea my casein should be in tom. I will do HIIT on my off days, and just do regular cardio on life days.

    Yea I am keeping it up. It just sucks, that you bust ur ass doing your cardio and lifting weights, and you feel great but see nothing lol. I know it takes time, but you know haha.
    Thats the key. It takes time.

    Start posting your (set)x(rep)x(weight) like my log, ya can really see the weight go up every 1-3 weeks.

    Less often when cutting, I think I added weight to my lifts once every 2 weeks on average.
    I prefer informalities.
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    Originally Posted by derickonfire View Post
    Thats the key. It takes time.

    Start posting your (set)x(rep)x(weight) like my log, ya can really see the weight go up every 1-3 weeks.

    Less often when cutting, I think I added weight to my lifts once every 2 weeks on average.
    I wanted to ask you man.

    Right now I am doing that Lee Hayward 12 week workout plan.

    The workout is good and all, but should I be doing like a whole body workout, like 3 or 4 days a week?

    Since my goal is weight lost, should I come up with a whole body routine and just rotate from each excercise, and do like one cycle then repeat?
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    I'm not pro at workouts, sorry.

    I like my full-bodies though - they tend to be preffered for beginners to gain a good base.

    Then splits are introduced to better focus on different factors.

    At least rfom what I've seen.
    I prefer informalities.
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    Alright, woke up a while ago had me a good breakfast and will be heading to the gym soon. Today is my upper body day and I will be lifting hard. I will then follow that by 20 minutes of cardio. Anyway, I will be back after lunch or maybe later since I have class
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