I've read in Stuart Mcroberts books & articles that the trap bar deadlift is pretty much the equal of the regular squat -
what do you guys think about this claim - bonuses include being able to use more weight and a safer position for the bar rather than on your back - except your doing the identical movement to a squat with the bar in your hands -
would be very useful especially for 20 rep work and developing a great grip and forearms - what do you guys think?
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06-19-2005, 06:57 PM #1
TRAP BAR DEADLIFTS vs REGULAR FULL SQUATS
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06-19-2005, 07:02 PM #2
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06-19-2005, 07:06 PM #3
I tried trap bar deadlift with about 210 or so lbs ( I just saw it laying there in the gym loaded already and figured I give it a try). It felt good and a very natural movement with less stress on the lower back and more on the quads than standard deadlift. However I didnt think it could at all replace the bb squat.
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06-19-2005, 07:10 PM #4
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06-22-2005, 01:04 AM #7Originally Posted by SOLITARYBEASTif you want good training advice , dont ask the biggest guy in the gym. ask the guy who's made the most improvement
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06-22-2005, 01:28 AM #8
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06-22-2005, 09:17 AM #10
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Originally Posted by nick912
The gyms on base have a few trap bars and the gym my wife works at just got one after I kept asking for them to buy one. I literally asked every time I saw the manager and he finally got one free from a local high school.
I'm at Davis-Monthan AFB in Tucson, AZ.
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06-22-2005, 09:24 AM #11
Mechanically, they are very similar to squats as far sa the trunk and legs are concerned
I think it could very easily replace the squat if you had to do such a thing. It is almost superior when you do them on boxes so you can go very low. Get a trap bar with 2 handles per side, one regular and one fat, and it's pretty uber. If I had to make a choice between the deadlift, the regular squat and the squatlift, I'd take the squatlift
My bases had trap bars and we even had some on ship
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06-22-2005, 09:29 AM #12
I've read Stuart's book, too, and I think he means that if you're really focusing on one exercise, you wouldn't necessarily have to incorporate the other in your workout. Both exercises have their metabolic advantages and they both work almost all of your musculature.
He's a big fan of abbreviation. Personally, I do my squats and deads back-to-back in my 'abbreviated' routine!
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06-22-2005, 09:36 AM #13
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06-22-2005, 09:45 AM #15
Man I miss the trap bar, my new gym doesnt have one.
SDFlipStyle - is your base gym nice? I'm asking because I used to workout for a loooong time at Nellis AFB till I moved and I have yet to find a gym thats nicer. The gym on base had top notch equipment, serious lifters, not to busy, its was perfect. Now I am stuck at a dam 24hr fitness with all the cardio bunnies.Respek!
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06-22-2005, 09:49 AM #16
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06-22-2005, 09:57 AM #17
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Originally Posted by UNLVmike
one is open during duty hours and it's and older facility. The equipment is better (POWER RACK!, chest supported row, more cable stations) and it's bigger and less crowded. But the dumbells and plates are everywhere and mismatched.
the newer gym is 24 hours and it's huge.... on the outside. they designed the freakin lobby to be bigger than the weight room. the equipment is nice and new, but it's mostly hammer strength machines. the freeweights are good but they are no where near mirrors. there's NO POWER RACK, but a squat rack that can be used as a power rack if you get creative. All i can say is - it's a pretty gym.
i'd prefer a gym that's functional..... that's why i pay to go to a different gym even though the gym on base is free.
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06-22-2005, 10:00 AM #18Originally Posted by SDFlipStyle
Its the perfect place, I would still go if it wasnt an hour drive from where I live now.Respek!
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06-22-2005, 12:34 PM #19
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06-22-2005, 01:43 PM #21
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Originally Posted by UNLVmike
no one can really watch the plasmas except for the people that work at the smoothie bar and the people that hand out towels. such a waste of money.
and the smoothies are so overpriced. $5 and up for a protein shake with 40g of whey protein!?!?!?!
I just bring powder in a ziploc and mix it up in a cup using a water fountain now.
Whoever designed the new "fitness center" must have never been to a gym before.
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