ONE+ psychological side effects

FireSpirit · 08-12-2002, 01:29 PM

I've been on Paxil (40mg) for almost 9 months now, and had been feeling fantastic since month 4. At that time, I decided to give Anabol-Megabol a try. I did and had pretty good gains( no side effects other then libido loss, which was ok by me).

After cycling off for 8 weeks, I gave One+ by avant labs a try. I was doing 12 squirts a day with the initial plan of 2 weeks on, 2 off, 2 on, end cycle.

The first two weeks were great, no side effects whatsoever. So I decided that I was going to do all 4 weeks at once. At the beginning of the 3rd week, I felt a little depressed, but the anxiety was down so I continued with the 1-test. For the next few days, my anxiety levels started increasing (which is why I take Paxil) and yesterday, I had a panic attack for the first time since February. Since then, I've been depressed as hell, and was wondering if the 1-test could have anything to do with this.

Obviously I stopped applying the gel last night in hopes that everything returns to normal in the next few days. If not, I'm sure its something else, and will speak to my doctor. But I was just wondering if anything like this had been reported in the past.

Thank You

Freyr · 08-12-2002, 01:41 PM

Were you also on a very low fat diet?

FireSpirit · 08-12-2002, 02:39 PM

My fat consumption was actually a bit higher than usual because I was bulking.

DevilSmack · 08-12-2002, 02:48 PM

Bro, if you suffer from depression or anxiety you have to be very carefull with the use of androgens. I also take Paxil, but for depression. Durring and after my cycles of ONE I felt like absoulute shizit, you have to tough it out, after a week post-cycle I felt normal again. You have to decide for yourself if the gains from the drugs are worth it. I gained 8 lbs. in two weeks w/ ONE and 4-ADerm. I was very pleased w/ my results. I just have have a lot of trouble keeping my gains months later. I hope this helps. -DevilSmack

FireSpirit · 08-13-2002, 04:08 PM

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Originally posted by DevilSmack
Bro, if you suffer from depression or anxiety you have to be very carefull with the use of androgens. I also take Paxil, but for depression. Durring and after my cycles of ONE I felt like absoulute shizit, you have to tough it out, after a week post-cycle I felt normal again.

Hey, thanks DevilSmack. I hoping its as simple as waiting it out...

Anyone else?

DaddyR · 08-13-2002, 04:22 PM

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Originally posted by FireSpirit
I hoping its as simple as waiting it out...

Hope so. With anxiety, depression . . . all of it, it's so easy to get out of whack and it can be so hard to get back on an even keel! I sincerely hope you're able to get it under control again, and quickly.

mc1 · 08-13-2002, 04:39 PM

Well i used a 1-test transdermal for 15 days and I felt pretty depressed at the end of that cycle. I'm on another one now, so I'll have to see how it goes.

LethalGunz34 · 08-13-2002, 04:39 PM

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Originally posted by FireSpirit

You just turned 19 and why would you even consider doing the hardcore dosage of ONE+? That was a bad move on your side, especially since you have had depression problems in the past and the fact that you're still too young for prohormones. That's exactly what Par talked about in the past threads....that teens may not handle the psychological side effects of his steroidal products. There you go man, I suggest you quit taking prohormones(1-Test is a steroid by the way) at least for now and see what happens. If everything goes back to normal and you're
over 21, then you may take something and see what happens.

Luke530 · 08-13-2002, 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by LethalGunz34

You just turned 19 and why would you even consider doing the hardcore dosage of ONE+? That was a bad move on your side, especially since you have had depression problems in the past and the fact that you're still too young for prohormones. That's exactly what Par talked about in the past threads....that teens may not handle the psychological side effects of his steroidal products. There you go man, I suggest you quit taking prohormones(1-Test is a steroid by the way) at least for now and see what happens. If everything goes back to normal and you're
over 21, then you may take something and see what happens.

no flame lethal... but seriously... don't you think there are enough people saying... ohh... you are too young... dude 2 or 3 years does not make that big of a difference... some 30 year olds might not be able to handle it because of irresponsibility and some 16 year olds might if they don't care to stunt their growth... Now i'm not sayng it's ok for 16 year olds to use it... but if you have plenty of experience, have a very well planned deit and routine... know exactly what you are doing and what you can expect, and are prepared for everything... and you believe you are done growing or don't care... then I see no problem using it. plus, if someone has already made the decision, that's it... they have probably heard this time and time again... so there is not point of telling him again, peace

Judo · 08-13-2002, 05:20 PM

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Originally posted by Luke530

Now i'm not sayng it's ok for 16 year olds to use it... but if you have plenty of experience, have a very well planned deit and routine... know exactly what you are doing and what you can expect, and are prepared for everything... and you believe you are done growing or don't care... then I see no problem using it. plus, if someone has already made the decision, that's it... they have probably heard this time and time again... so there is not point of telling him again, peace

The person you described unfortunately is in the minority. Very few teens that I have ever known, both when I was a teen and guys that I work with that are still teenagers, have very little experience, knowledge about supps, well planned diets and routines, and have no clue what they are doing in general. When I was 18, I had not clue about steroids, did that stop me from taking them....hell know, I wish I had known better, but hindsight is 20/20

Luke530 · 08-13-2002, 05:39 PM

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Originally posted by Judo

The person you described unfortunately is in the minority. Very few teens that I have ever known, both when I was a teen and guys that I work with that are still teenagers, have very little experience, knowledge about supps, well planned diets and routines, and have no clue what they are doing in general. When I was 18, I had not clue about steroids, did that stop me from taking them....hell know, I wish I had known better, but hindsight is 20/20

you are right... I'm just saying... if you are educated... and believe me.. those kinds of teens exist... that have perfect diets, routines, and know how everything works... cycles, etc... I see no problem with people like that using them... It's just that, you are righ, that is extremely rare

Judo · 08-13-2002, 05:51 PM

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Originally posted by Luke530

you are right... I'm just saying... if you are educated... and believe me.. those kinds of teens exist... that have perfect diets, routines, and know how everything works... cycles, etc... I see no problem with people like that using them... It's just that, you are righ, that is extremely rare

I'd tend to agree with your statement as well. As you said earlier, for the most part, once these kids make up there mind to take something, they are going to take it no matter what anyone tells them. Sad but true. They don't see the big picture, all they see is a "magic" pill or potion that they THINK is going to make them huge.

LethalGunz34 · 08-13-2002, 05:53 PM

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Originally posted by Luke530

no flame lethal... but seriously... don't you think there are enough people saying... ohh... you are too young... dude 2 or 3 years does not make that big of a difference... some 30 year olds might not be able to handle it because of irresponsibility and some 16 year olds might if they don't care to stunt their growth... Now i'm not sayng it's ok for 16 year olds to use it... but if you have plenty of experience, have a very well planned deit and routine... know exactly what you are doing and what you can expect, and are prepared for everything... and you believe you are done growing or don't care... then I see no problem using it. plus, if someone has already made the decision, that's it... they have probably heard this time and time again... so there is not point of telling him again, peace

Well, I agree to some extent, if you're over 18 and have been lifting weights seriously for 3 years or so, with a good diet plan, and work ethic, then you might try a short PH cycle at the regular dosage if you know what you're doing. I absolutely would not go with the hardcore dosage unless you're in your 20's and have been through a few cycles before.

Luke530 · 08-13-2002, 06:28 PM

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Originally posted by LethalGunz34

Well, I agree to some extent, if you're over 18 and have been lifting weights seriously for 3 years or so, with a good diet plan, and work ethic, then you might try a short PH cycle at the regular dosage if you know what you're doing. I absolutely would not go with the hardcore dosage unless you're in your 20's and have been through a few cycles before.

I'll agree to that... but why 18... i'm sure there is no difference if you are 17.... there is not a big physical change within a year... but you are right... plus you tend, for the most part, get more responsible as you get older, peace...

LethalGunz34 · 08-13-2002, 06:31 PM

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Originally posted by Luke530

I'll agree to that... but why 18... i'm sure there is no difference if you are 17.... there is not a big physical change within a year... but you are right... plus you tend, for the most part, get more responsible as you get older, peace...

18 sounds better though

Why do you have to be 18 to buy cigarettes? Same point.......

Luke530 · 08-13-2002, 06:37 PM

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18 sounds better though Why do you have to be 18 to buy cigarettes? Same point.......

true

Dante B. · 08-13-2002, 06:38 PM

The 4AD via its effects on the CNS (DHT and Estrogen induced) could exacerbate anxiety. 1-Test, via the lethargy, could make one more depressed, if so predisposed.

FireSpirit · 08-13-2002, 11:12 PM

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Originally posted by LethalGunz34

You just turned 19 and why would you even consider doing the hardcore dosage of ONE+? That was a bad move on your side, especially since you have had depression problems in the past and the fact that you're still too young for prohormones. That's exactly what Par talked about in the past threads....that teens may not handle the psychological side effects of his steroidal products. There you go man, I suggest you quit taking prohormones(1-Test is a steroid by the way) at least for now and see what happens. If everything goes back to normal and you're
over 21, then you may take something and see what happens.

Although I don't neccessarily agree with the age factor, I do agree that I personally made a bad decision with my medical history in mind.

I'm not planning on taking pro-steriods again until I'm off Paxil, if ever again at all.

This will be a lesson that I will never forget.

Thanks guys for your input & concern,

Nik

DevilSmack · 08-14-2002, 02:08 PM

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Originally posted by dantebattista
The 4AD via its effects on the CNS (DHT and Estrogen induced) could exacerbate anxiety. 1-Test, via the lethargy, could make one more depressed, if so predisposed.

Dante, I agree. I just have depression w/ minor anxiety. 4-AD makes me feel hella good via it's CNS stimulation. I just have to be carefull about the estrogen factor because I have small gyno lumps that are easily aggravated.

John Benz · 08-14-2002, 02:27 PM

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Originally posted by LethalGunz34
......if you're over 18 and have been lifting weights seriously for 3 years or so, with a good diet plan, and work ethic, then you might try a short PH cycle at the regular dosage if you know what you're doing. I absolutely would not go with the hardcore dosage unless you're in your 20's and have been through a few cycles before.

Lethal, this as important as the age limit. The increased strength imparted by ph is tough on an untrained body. After my first cycle, I became sick with flu-like conditions for a few days, and I am not a beginner. I knew I was overtraining and pushing the envelope, so to speak. I was adding more weight to my bench Press and my dip belt, with every workout, and used forced reps to failure on each set. Plus 5 X week routine. I ate everything in sight (no junk), but I never experienced any negative sides except for overtraining. Also, my joints were sore for two weeks, elbows and rotator cuff.