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    Bicept injury,, Is 'biceptitis' a word? Help needed

    I've always had good size bicepts,, always too pride in training them hard and i don't think i overtrained anything.
    I have a pain in the base of my bicept, just above the elbow on the inside of the arm. It seems to be coming from a tendon or where the tendon meets the bicept. It really only affects my bi and some back training so this isn't and emergency, but it has def. affected my bi strength. I normally BB curl around 110-135 and now i'm down to squeezing out around 90. I could do more but i'm afraid i would aggrivate the injury more.
    The symptoms are that this area is sore during the workout, and it makes little quiet crackeling noises when doing arm work. They also don't recover as quickly as normal. I don't think this has gotten to the point where its cronic and untreatable.

    Here is what i'm doing to treat it.....
    Take half an advil to help kill any swelling right after lifting.
    Icing the area for 1 hr after lifting.
    Taking more glutamine then normal and more protien then normal.

    Anything i'm missing? Can anyone give some advice?

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    STOP LIFTING. If it's making it sore, don't keep doing it. And it would be bicep tendonitis.
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    Originally Posted by TuffguyF4i
    Is 'biceptitis' a word?

    No but neither is "bicept"


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    lessson 1 - if you can't spell bicep properly, i doubt you're curling 130+ with PERFECT Form (elbows FIXED, back rigid)
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    yeah id definatley rest.

    also, generally, you should ice for 20 minutes on, 20 minutes off, not an hour straight.
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    Originally Posted by TuffguyF4i
    I've always had good size bicepts,, always too pride in training them hard and i don't think i overtrained anything.
    I have a pain in the base of my bicept, just above the elbow on the inside of the arm. It seems to be coming from a tendon or where the tendon meets the bicept. It really only affects my bi and some back training so this isn't and emergency, but it has def. affected my bi strength. I normally BB curl around 110-135 and now i'm down to squeezing out around 90. I could do more but i'm afraid i would aggrivate the injury more.
    The symptoms are that this area is sore during the workout, and it makes little quiet crackeling noises when doing arm work. They also don't recover as quickly as normal. I don't think this has gotten to the point where its cronic and untreatable.

    Here is what i'm doing to treat it.....
    Take half an advil to help kill any swelling right after lifting.
    Icing the area for 1 hr after lifting.
    Taking more glutamine then normal and more protien then normal.

    Anything i'm missing? Can anyone give some advice?
    no its not a word but bicipital tendinitis is, your missing the two most important things. rest and ice.

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    I know you probably don't want to rest but word to the wise; a tear of the distal bicep is the most common muscle tear in the upper body......you don't want that to happen.

    also, don't just take 3 days off, feel a little better and try to curl 130 pounds again, you have to ease back into it. You have probably either strained the tendon (which is most likely from using too much weight) or it is tendinitis (most likely from repeatedly using too much weight)

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    And just to be pedantic, there's no "bicep"; it's "biceps".

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    Originally Posted by maxiw
    And just to be pedantic, there's no "bicep"; it's "biceps".
    Maxiw, that's cruel (even though you're right)

    I always say "biceps" when talking about it as a muscle group (bi + ceps = 2 heads) but I've lost count of how many times I've said "bicep curls" instead of "biceps curls" since I hear "bicep" said so often by others (experts and amateurs alike) and it's a little easier to say

    You're right of course, "biceps" is the correct term but seeing and hearing it as "bicep" so often it's easy to forget and use the two interchangeably.

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    Originally Posted by $AJ
    lessson 1 - if you can't spell bicep properly, i doubt you're curling 130+ with PERFECT Form (elbows FIXED, back rigid)
    Cheating is good for a good negative on the last 2 reps.

    Anyway,, i'm hardly a novice lifter. Been at it for some time. Def a bad speller though.

    I have gone down considerably in weight for biceps,,, Should i stop training biceps or rest everything for a while everything?

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    Originally Posted by _Dominik_
    Maxiw, that's cruel (even though you're right)

    I always say "biceps" when talking about it as a muscle group (bi + ceps = 2 heads) but I've lost count of how many times I've said "bicep curls" instead of "biceps curls" since I hear "bicep" said so often by others (experts and amateurs alike) and it's a little easier to say

    You're right of course, "biceps" is the correct term but seeing and hearing it as "bicep" so often it's easy to forget and use the two interchangeably.
    May as well use "bicep" then. It'll end up being correct one day because everyone uses it.

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    Originally Posted by maxiw
    May as well use "bicep" then. It'll end up being correct one day because everyone uses it.



    Just like the complete bastardization of the meaning of the word "ignorant."

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    Originally Posted by maxiw
    May as well use "bicep" then. It'll end up being correct one day because everyone uses it.
    That's the way it usually works. Gonna, wanna, oughta... it happens. Seriously though, so long as people know the correct term is "biceps" and use it when talking about the muscle group, that's fine. "Bicep curl" the exercise, I can live with.

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    Any other non spelling comments would be appreciated...

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    Originally Posted by maxiw View Post
    And just to be pedantic, there's no "bicep"; it's "biceps".
    Originally Posted by Dominik View Post
    Maxiw, that's cruel (even though you're right)

    I always say "biceps" when talking about it as a muscle group (bi + ceps = 2 heads) but I've lost count of how many times I've said "bicep curls" instead of "biceps curls" since I hear "bicep" said so often by others (experts and amateurs alike) and it's a little easier to say

    You're right of course, "biceps" is the correct term but seeing and hearing it as "bicep" so often it's easy to forget and use the two interchangeably.
    Just to be even more pedantic, if I was referring to one head rather than both, could I call it a monocep/unicep/solocep?

    Originally Posted by maxiw View Post
    May as well use "bicep" then. It'll end up being correct one day because everyone uses it.
    We shouldn't allow language to degrade like this, otherwise it will be even more meaningless and have ever more complex pointless rules, English has enough of this already.

    Bi means two, cep must be ceps to be plural to go along with that. What's next, quad? Tricep?

    It's bad enough people use pornography to mean stuff unrelated to whores.

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    Take it easy guys! He's just looking for some advice, anybody in his shoes dealing with an injury would just want the same.

    Anyways, from what you describe COULD be a case of bicipital tendonitis, but bicipital tendonitis (specifically the long head) is most commonly felt in front of the shoulder. Here's a quick little test you can do to confirm if it's tendonitis or not:

    1. If it's your right Biceps, place your left hand on the front of your wrist.
    2. Slowly match your resistance with the hand on front of the wrist, and also recruiting the affected Biceps.
    3. There should be NO movement - if pain is present, and increases as resistance increases then it's a good chance it's bicipital tendonitis.

    But from what you described, it may be a simple muscle strain. If it aggravates you during a workout, stop that exercise immediately because you're doing more harm. If pain is present, ice it to decrease the amount of inflammation (if it's present).

    Remember to stretch often (preferably after a hot shower to soften up the tissue). The easiest Biceps stretch is to have your arm straight against a door way, with your thumb facing down. Simply rotate your body the opposite direction and you should be stretching the Biceps!

    Hope this helps!
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    Originally Posted by Tyciol View Post
    Just to be even more pedantic, if I was referring to one head rather than both, could I call it a monocep/unicep/solocep?

    We shouldn't allow language to degrade like this, otherwise it will be even more meaningless and have ever more complex pointless rules, English has enough of this already.

    Bi means two, cep must be ceps to be plural to go along with that. What's next, quad? Tricep?

    It's bad enough people use pornography to mean stuff unrelated to whores.
    Originally Posted by jamezgt View Post
    Take it easy guys! He's just looking for some advice, anybody in his shoes dealing with an injury would just want the same.

    Anyways, from what you describe COULD be a case of bicipital tendonitis, but bicipital tendonitis (specifically the long head) is most commonly felt in front of the shoulder. Here's a quick little test you can do to confirm if it's tendonitis or not:

    1. If it's your right Biceps, place your left hand on the front of your wrist.
    2. Slowly match your resistance with the hand on front of the wrist, and also recruiting the affected Biceps.
    3. There should be NO movement - if pain is present, and increases as resistance increases then it's a good chance it's bicipital tendonitis.

    But from what you described, it may be a simple muscle strain. If it aggravates you during a workout, stop that exercise immediately because you're doing more harm. If pain is present, ice it to decrease the amount of inflammation (if it's present).

    Remember to stretch often (preferably after a hot shower to soften up the tissue). The easiest Biceps stretch is to have your arm straight against a door way, with your thumb facing down. Simply rotate your body the opposite direction and you should be stretching the Biceps!

    Hope this helps!
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    I've always had good size bicepts,, always too pride in training them hard and i don't think i overtrained anything.
    I have a pain in the base of my bicept, just above the elbow on the inside of the arm. It seems to be coming from a tendon or where the tendon meets the bicept. It really only affects my bi and some back training so this isn't and emergency, but it has def. affected my bi strength. I normally BB curl around 110-135 and now i'm down to squeezing out around 90. I could do more but i'm afraid i would aggrivate the injury more.
    The symptoms are that this area is sore during the workout, and it makes little quiet crackeling noises when doing arm work. They also don't recover as quickly as normal. I don't think this has gotten to the point where its cronic and untreatable.

    Here is what i'm doing to treat it.....
    Take half an advil to help kill any swelling right after lifting.
    Icing the area for 1 hr after lifting.
    Taking more glutamine then normal and more protien then normal.

    Anything i'm missing? Can anyone give some advice?
    Here is what the surgery nurse thinks with out examining the patient, based on the things I see at work and what you describe. i see lots of ortho. Partial biceps tendon rupture, thats what your diagnosis.

    Bicep tendinitis is usually more in the shoulder, as in rotator cuff tear/impingement syndrome in the proximal bicep origen. The most common "and devastating" bicep injury is "bicep tendon rupture." Either partial or complete. This is very a common injury where the distal bicep insertion tendon tears off the radial tuberosity. It is a very disfiguring injury. your pretty bicep with the nice peak is going to look real ugly, even if you get it repaired with surgery. i think you have a partial biceps tendon tear. LEAVE IT ALONE. LET IT HEAL. Like for about 5 weeks, take it real easy on the pulling exercises

    Bicep tendon rupture. That is nothing to play with. Consider your self lucky that it just did not tear off all at once. it is giving you a little warning. I would take heed and don't mess with it. It will heal if you let it. Right now your bicep is on "thin ice" in my opinion. be careful.
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    Originally Posted by ichidkiller View Post
    Here is what the surgery nurse thinks with out examining the patient, based on the things I see at work and what you describe. i see lots of ortho. Partial biceps tendon rupture, thats what your diagnosis is.

    Bicepital tendinitis is usually more in the shoulder, as in rotator cuff tear/impingement syndrome in the proximal bicep origen. The most common "and devastating" biceps injury is "biceps tendon rupture." Either partial or complete. This is very a common injury where the distal biceps insertion tendon tears off the radial tuberosity. It is a very disfiguring injury. your pretty biceps with the nice peak is going to look real ugly, even if you get it repaired with surgery. i think you have a partial biceps tendon tear. LEAVE IT ALONE. LET IT HEAL. Like for about 5 weeks, take it real easy on the pulling exercises. Real easy.

    Biceps tendon rupture. That is nothing to play with. Consider yourself lucky that it just did not tear off all at once. it is giving you a little warning. I would take heed and don't mess with it. It will heal if you let it. Right now your biceps is on "thin ice" in my opinion. be careful.
    Also, for treatment: Rest, don't reinjure it. Ibuprofen is good. ice is not so good in my opinion. Ice is good if you are actively bleeding, like a in the acute phase of an injury. I would do a jucuzi now, use hot water to get blood flow to the area. that will help with healing it. However, first and foremost: don't reinjure it.
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    Originally Posted by ichidkiller View Post
    Also, for treatment: Rest, don't reinjure it. Ibuprofen is good. ice is not so good in my opinion. Ice is good if you are actively bleeding, like a in the acute phase of an injury. I would do a jucuzi now, use hot water to get blood flow to the area. that will help with healing it. However, first and foremost: don't reinjure it.
    Since this was originally posted in June 2005, the dude's probably fine by now.
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    Originally Posted by medjen View Post
    Since this was originally posted in June 2005, the dude's probably fine by now.

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