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Old 06-01-2005, 10:10 AM   #1
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Undecided! Thunder, Clout, Octane, CEE, BCAA? What a choice!

Hey guys!

new month, new money, new supplements! I've got some money to spend so I'd like to buy some quality supplements.

I've been searching on this forum and found A LOT of positive reviews on Omega Thunder, MAN Clout and MAN BodyOctane. I'm looking to gain lean muscle mass obviously, but for at least another 2 months I will only be eating ~3k cals a day (for beach purposes ... ).

Is it better if I wait until I start my bulking cycle (around the beginning of September)?

Which one should I get? What about stacking Clout with bulk CEE? I'm currently taking CMono, and I can't wait to get on CEE to get rid of the mono-bloat.

I read that BCAA's are recommended during a cutting cycle. Are they of any help in gaining mass?

I've been using a homemade NO2 pump mix (CM, AAKG, OAKG, Taurine) and it's been working wonders, I still feel a great rush of energy and a great pump during my workout. Is Thunder's and Clout's effect just the same?

Hope you guys can help! Just need some help deciding which supp to get.
So far I'm pointed on Clout + bulk CEE...

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Old 06-01-2005, 10:15 AM   #2
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I dont think clout needs extra-cee in your stack.

Personally i would go with Clout (havent tried any of those tho)
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Xtend(BCAAs) and Thunder(Cee) gets my vote.
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Xtend(BCAAs) and Thunder(Cee) gets my vote.
Mine too, that is a nice stack.
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Old 06-01-2005, 10:46 AM   #6
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Bulking on a budget:

Omega Thunder + bulk Leucine / BCAA

Cutting on a budget:

MAN Clout + bulk Leucine / BCAA
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Old 06-01-2005, 12:00 PM   #7
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I just surfed around some more and found out that Body Octane is out of stock pretty much everywhere.
Btw. where would you guys buy Clout, Thunder, bulk CEE, and bulk BCAAs? BN has pretty good prices I think on bulk powders, but Clout is expensive there.

Why do you say Clout doesn't need any extra CEE? I don't see any CEE in the Clout ingredients at all. Am I missing something or what? SO you wouldn't stack Clout with Thunder?

@pu12en12g (and others):
You don't recommend Clout while bulking? How come?
How much better is Omega Thunder than bulk CEE with proper pre-workout nutrition? What bothers me about Thunder is that you have to take 8 pills of that stuff, just to get 2.5g of CEE. Is that amounf of CEE enough to replace my 10g of CMono that I've been taking daily?
In any case you recommend BCAA's .... I guess mega-dosing at ~40g a day, right?


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Old 06-01-2005, 12:03 PM   #8
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IMO, the key to the success of Omega Thunder is in the additional ingredients, not just the CEE.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=377554
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Old 06-01-2005, 12:13 PM   #9
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I really think Clout and Thunder either one in addition to BCAA is a great stack. CEE is pro your best bang for your buck along with Thunder. Clout is a very strong product
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Old 06-01-2005, 12:16 PM   #10
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Ok, looks like I'm in for some Omega Thunder. You just take 1 serving a day, correct? OR is it beneficial taking another serving post-workout? So you're saying because of it's absorption properties the CEE in Thunder is enough?

I guess I'll go with Thunder + bulk BCAAs, unless adding bulk CEE might give me an extra strength boost.
BY THE WAY: I'm also looking to improve my cardio activities, not only my musclemass / strength. I'm swimming and running regularly, and I would like to get my run times better, that's why I was looking into Clout & Octane.

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BY THE WAY: I'm also looking to improve my cardio activities, not only my musclemass / strength. I'm swimming and running regularly, and I would like to get my run times better, that's why I was looking into Clout & Octane.
In this scenario, I would pick up some Clout.
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Old 06-01-2005, 12:25 PM   #12
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Sorry to keep it going this long...

So I would go for Clout + Thunder + bulk BCAA's megadosing (perhaps, if enough money) ...? Good Stack?

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No either take Clout OR Thunder not both . Either one take BCAA's with it
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Hey guys!

new month, new money, new supplements! I've got some money to spend so I'd like to buy some quality supplements.

I've been searching on this forum and found A LOT of positive reviews on Omega Thunder, MAN Clout and MAN BodyOctane. I'm looking to gain lean muscle mass obviously, but for at least another 2 months I will only be eating ~3k cals a day (for beach purposes ... ).

Is it better if I wait until I start my bulking cycle (around the beginning of September)?

Which one should I get? What about stacking Clout with bulk CEE? I'm currently taking CMono, and I can't wait to get on CEE to get rid of the mono-bloat.

I read that BCAA's are recommended during a cutting cycle. Are they of any help in gaining mass?

I've been using a homemade NO2 pump mix (CM, AAKG, OAKG, Taurine) and it's been working wonders, I still feel a great rush of energy and a great pump during my workout. Is Thunder's and Clout's effect just the same?

Hope you guys can help! Just need some help deciding which supp to get.
So far I'm pointed on Clout + bulk CEE...

Thanks a lot!
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You are making a good choice with OT CEE, I just purchased some and can't wait to try it. It is such a solid product with a lot to offer. I also bought some Bulk BCAAs + Bulk Cillitium (prolly spelling that wrong) Maltrate so its like I'm making my own Xtend at a lot cheaper price. Only thing is, this stuff is unflavored so I'm pretty sure it is going to taste gross. Good luck bro!~
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OK so I decided I will go with Omega Thunder & bulk BCAA's for now then.
I will start taking Clout once I restart my high intensity runs (going for cardio right now, long runs and swims, no anaerobic stuff).

Btw. How do you guys think Clout and/or Octane would affect performance in high-altitude (10'000ft and up) mountaineering (climbing, ice climbing, hiking etc)?

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Really? Mine gets Xtend with CLOUT! :;-:
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What's that supposed to be? I had "issues" with CLOUT...
Is that right? I was not under that impression, what "issues" did you have? And don't get sensitive on my MAYNE.
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Xtend & Clout together are on sale right now at BN for 50 bucks... Do you superdose Xtend as you would with plain BCAA's or what? BCAA's are out of stock on BN, and on bb.com they're way more expensive unfortunately!

Still going for Thunder + BCAAs if I can find em cheap. If not, I'll just go for Thunder alone, plus I'll buy a few bottles of Clout to put aside.

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