Faith-based Schools

Bruzey · 10-02-2007, 06:07 PM

Yes or no?
Why?

EDIT - Reason for posting is the recent John Tory flip-flop on the issue of the free vote about the issue.

Thinman · 10-02-2007, 06:10 PM

I have no problem with them as long as they are private schools and my tax dollars don't go to support them.

Fidelis · 10-02-2007, 06:18 PM

They are dumb.

Bruzey · 10-02-2007, 06:20 PM

I'd tend to agree.

What I don't agree with is having a Catholic school board alongside a Public school board, but no Islamic school board, no Jewish school board. All or nothing. And since 'all' promotes more unnecessary segregation, I'd lean towards 'nothing'.

LatissimusDorsi · 10-02-2007, 06:25 PM

Do they teach evolution? (serious)

Chris Lee · 10-02-2007, 06:37 PM

I attend a religiously affiliated school... Manchester College in Indiana and received economic assistance from the state.

The Christian affiliation is called the Church of the Brethen... an interesting denomination... I think that they're pretty cool people.

They teach evolution here too...

mlc82 · 10-02-2007, 06:39 PM

If someone wants to start it, and others want to enroll their kids in it, that's their right (though I feel for the kids).

I wouldn't trust it on the subjects of history and religion for second, and it shouldn't be somehow favored by any political institution either.

IraHays · 10-02-2007, 06:44 PM

Yes.

At least around here they are better in academics and no thug problems.

jahlighted · 10-02-2007, 06:58 PM

Doesn't bother me.

ljwede7 · 10-02-2007, 07:35 PM

I went to a Catholic high school. Outstanding college-prep education, met some awesome people, and learned enough about religion to realize it is all BS.

It ended up being a good deal for me.

As long as they stay in the private, self-funding sphere, let 'em stick around.

AKR · 10-02-2007, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruzey

Yes or no?
Why?

EDIT - Reason for posting is the recent John Tory flip-flop on the issue of the free vote about the issue.

no. i went to one and it was f*cked up. we had text books that called sociology and psychology "pseudo-science," and totally pissed on evolution. i didn't know **** about evolution until i was about 20. i had become agnostic but still thought evolution was dumb, simply because i had been brainwashed so bad into thinking there was no truth in it. we wasted an hour everyday, purely devoted to a church/sunday school-like service. you got behavior/attitude grades, and if you didn't sing (or pretend) to sing during singing time, you got marks, and they would put you up in the front of the class, and make you embarass yourself by singing "i'm a little tea-pot."

i can't remember, but i'm guessing our grade in "bible" affected our GPA, which is pretty f*cked up, since that affects what colleges you can get into. "oh, sorry, billy, you did poorly on the religious section, we're going to have to screw with your chances for college." again, i don't remember for sure on this. i should ask my mom, who works at that same school.

i don't agree with brainwashing schools, which push religion on children and undermine science (not that ALL would undermine science, but the protestant ones would), but if my taxes go for this, i'm going to be pissed.

resurrected · 10-02-2007, 09:11 PM

Although I do not send my kids to such schools. i have often wondered if the environment would be better for them.
I don't mean a catholic school, but a christian academy. So they are taught some things from the bible, but from what i can tell it is more academically challenged. A bit of a safer environment free from morons.
But alas If i did anything I would teach them at home first. I have been thinking about home schooling for a few days of the week. With the way the world is today, I worry about the safety of my little girl.

user9034903490342 · 10-02-2007, 09:23 PM

i attend a christian school: dallas baptist university: and i like it more than when i attended public college: texas A&M corpus christi....the work is clearly harder and more demading at DBU and of couse they teach about evolution and things like that. no the teachers arnt wacks and just teach jesus this and jesus that...thats just a common minconception. its a great school with an even better enviroment for learning and i wihs i started here my freshman year.

user437490845hjgd · 10-02-2007, 09:36 PM

Yes school vouchers, at the state/province level (yes, I heard about the Ontario issue - and something unrelated about testing the waters on mixed-member proportional representation), with a uniform voucher value pegged to CPI, with no means testing, nor mandatory standardized tests. The only provisions necessary for a school to be able to tender vouchers would be that the (secondary) school provides graduation statistics, curriculum information, compiled (post-)secondary acceptance rates, and that non-language course instruction is provided entirely in English.

Inev · 10-02-2007, 09:43 PM

No, i think religion puts to much emphasis on knowledge derived from an authority rather than knowledge derived from ones self. I think people constantly underestimate what they can do and what they can know. It is sad to see people who limit their knowledge simply because of their mindset.

But i would not deny someone the right to do it if they wished.

SYRIANKID · 10-03-2007, 04:17 AM

At a private level they should be allowed, but there are simply too many "faiths" to be subsidized by people's tax dollars.

jeff00z28 · 10-03-2007, 12:15 PM

i wouldn't send a kid to one. I went to a public high school but i now people that went to lutheran schools and they seem way worse than public schools. The chics sleep around more and seems they spend more time w/ their pants off than on, every1 does more drugs, etc. Also when i was a lil kid i went to a lutheran school but then when i switched over to public schools i didn't have any social skills or know how to meet new ppl at first. when i have kids i would send them to regular schools because they make u learn more discipline. actually maybe the first few years i would think would be good but not after 5th grade

kajara3 · 10-03-2007, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Lee

They teach evolution here too...

wowz really?...

no wai!...

TDetroit · 10-03-2007, 12:56 PM

Faith based schools are the answer to all problems.

I was watching the talking heads the other day, and a Muslim wanted his public school system to make time for the Muslim students to observe Ramadan.

My reply to that is why can't Catholics have time to observe every Saint Day (which is everyday)? Why is it that everyone else has to hide their religion, but Muslims are constantly demanding a pass.

Same thing goes for the American culture. If you love America, you must hide that fact from your school district. But if you are Mexican, you get a pass.

Just give everyone a voucher, then they can go to a school where their culture/religion does not have to hide.

caj · 10-03-2007, 01:07 PM

I personally think home schooling is the way to go if one parent makes enough money for the other parent to stay home and teach.

I have four friends who home school their kids. This way, they can teach them the values they wish and ensure they get a good education.