Toney Freeman

**Portsmouth UK** · 03-27-2011, 04:13 AM

At the British Grand Prix he placed 6th

At the Mr Europe show, he placed 5th, 2 places behind a 202 competitor....

Do you think Toney's time has well and truely past?
Its a sad decline of what used to be a well tipped name a few years ago for success in the pro ranks.

**the-craig** · 03-27-2011, 04:15 AM

I think so sadly. His physique hasn't gone downhill, he just can't nail his conditioning anymore. He's had since the Arnold to nail it once and has failed to do so.

**swole-striation** · 03-27-2011, 04:25 AM

the X MAN

fcuk the haters, he looks great!

**Pilcher1** · 03-27-2011, 04:28 AM

I think his time is up, You cant say take time off with Freeman though, his age is a huge factor now and I think now he will just show up collect some prize money and be happy with that. Gotta love the X-MAN though.

**Portsmouth UK** · 03-27-2011, 04:34 AM

Originally Posted by swole-striation

the X MAN

fcuk the haters, he looks great!

no hating, the guy is a testiment to age being no factor in pro bodybuilding.
He has battled with injury and set backs, i'm just wondering how he can keep pushing forward with these results.
He needs to really bring in his conditioning for a show and take a title IMO to give his career the needed jump start.

Originally Posted by Pilcher1

I think his time is up, You cant say take time off with Freeman though, his age is a huge factor now and I think now he will just show up collect some prize money and be happy with that. Gotta love the X-MAN though.

I've spoke to him a few years ago and the Body Power (UK expo) and he is a humble down to earth guy. I really want to see him do well... 2011 isn't going to well sadly and hoping he can bring it back on track.

With a flurry of shows back to back i would of thought his conditioning would be getting tighter and tighter to get that Olympia qualification.

Fingers crossed he can, always good to see the big man at the O

**razmatazbaz** · 03-27-2011, 04:48 AM

look at the front cover of the flex mag

**Whey Hey** · 03-27-2011, 04:53 AM

Back to the strip club he goes...

After all the hype died down about Tony being the next Ronnie Coleman, he just didnt make any hugely noticable improvements.

**JanesLastResort** · 03-27-2011, 05:14 AM

The x man still looks good, but Toney's career has been declining since 08 tbh.

Anyway, maybe i'm missing something, but i haven't noticed anything wrong with his conditioning. He was on at the arnold a few yrs ago and still only managed to place 4th, far worse than i was expecting him to.

Politics maybe? Who knows.

**IwillBaMonster** · 03-27-2011, 05:56 AM

Mad respect for this guy, for what he does at his age, incredible, just shows that it's far from "written in the stone" with the right approach and determination, and I've always felt that somewhy he was at least semi-robbed quite a few times in the past.. Maybe he's just too big and judges have no idea how to evaluate that lol.. As when he stands next to a shorter competitor - the dwarfing factor is quite apparent.

**mpghouse** · 03-27-2011, 06:15 AM

Originally Posted by razmatazbaz

look at the front cover of the flex mag

srs? magazine cover pic? That's your evidence?

anyway, if he could nail his conditioning, top 3 in all the shows he entered this year wouldn't have been a problem. especially since he would've been standing next to dennis wolf, instead of looking like the odd tall guy out.

**KevinSorbo** · 03-27-2011, 06:16 AM

He isnt getting worse, but other competitors are getting better. Aside from leg detail, he looks better than rockel beside him who won that show..his conditioning wasn't terrible but the competition is just getting tougher. Didn't he win a show last year? It's not impossible for him to keep doing well for a while.

**OtisBDriftwood** · 03-27-2011, 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by the-craig

I think so sadly. His physique hasn't gone downhill, he just can't nail his conditioning anymore. He's had since the Arnold to nail it once and has failed to do so.

He couldn't nail his conditioning like 4 or 5 times already this year. Pretty much every mid-tier is whooping his ass this season.
Sucks because i like his physique but he's not gonna do any damage in the future.

**phoodoo** · 03-27-2011, 07:12 AM

Can somebody post a picture of Tony in his prime ?

**the-craig** · 03-27-2011, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by OtisBDriftwood

He couldn't nail his conditioning like 4 or 5 times already this year. Pretty much every mid-tier is whooping his ass this season.
Sucks because i like his physique but he's not gonna do any damage in the future.

Exactly. The last time I remember him peaking properly was the 2008 Olympia. It's a shame because like you said he's got such a good physique but without the conditioning he doesn't stand a chance.

**kpwrestler4** · 03-27-2011, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by phoodoo

Can somebody post a picture of Tony in his prime ?

**Withoutreason** · 03-27-2011, 08:17 AM

I sure if he was a few inches shorter he would have been doing alot better

**Beastonio** · 03-27-2011, 08:25 AM

Hes a great bber and has been in the game a looong time! He really has nothing to be ashamed of. He just needs to start working with Palumbo again I think thats when he looked his best.

**littlemike23** · 03-27-2011, 08:49 AM

He's just been coming in smooth, he hasn't looked dry in a long time. Obviously needs to change something with his prep. I don't think he's done though.

**red_cat** · 03-27-2011, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by littlemike23

He's just been coming in smooth, he hasn't looked dry in a long time. Obviously needs to change something with his prep. I don't think he's done though.

Yep. He needs to go back to what he was doing a few years ago. He's been kinda soft lately. He's not done by any means, but he doesn't have much time left to be competitive. and needs to start getting it right.

**Pilcher1** · 03-27-2011, 09:36 AM

Its easy to say do what he was doing a few years ago. That is okay if your talking about Kai he has time on his side. Freeman is just getting to that age now were unfortunatley I dont think he has it anymore. As the big man above said I would love to see him at the O this year but who knows.

**AmJacked** · 03-27-2011, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by Withoutreason

I sure if he was a few inches shorter he would have been doing alot better

this... you dont see any tall bodybuilders anymore...apart from wolf

**Withoutreason** · 03-27-2011, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by AmJacked

this... you dont see any tall bodybuilders anymore...apart from wolf

lets be reality, wolf isn't ever going to win the O

**DavisForman** · 03-27-2011, 10:43 AM

Chose his competitions very poorly. He is definitely past his prime, but he could still qualify for the O if he wanted to. He just so happened to jump into competitions that were very stacked as far as 3rd tier shows go.

**dvdrestrep** · 03-27-2011, 01:00 PM

He needs to hire Palumbo or any GURU

**lovebbing** · 03-27-2011, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by the-craig

I think so sadly. His physique hasn't gone downhill, he just can't nail his conditioning anymore. He's had since the Arnold to nail it once and has failed to do so.

this.

he just cant get diced anymore.

**BaGeL23** · 03-27-2011, 09:10 PM

Such a massive frame, it's sad that he hasn't come in looking his best for so long.

**Tsesmatas** · 03-27-2011, 09:21 PM

Realistically, his physique is much more large and impressive than the people he is supposedly losing against, like Flex Lewis and Ronny Rockel

**BigChamp89** · 03-27-2011, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by Withoutreason

I sure if he was a few inches shorter he would have been doing alot better

lol please...

**BartPimpson** · 03-27-2011, 09:52 PM

I pay attention to Tony because I know Dexter Jackson will be in the same place as him in a few more years.

**chadcruz** · 03-28-2011, 02:30 AM

Originally Posted by Withoutreason

lets be reality, wolf isn't ever going to win the O

I agree brah, lettuce be reality. Fact is Freeman is on the wrong side of 40 and unfortunatley for him, it's all down hill from here. Sad, as I think the sport needs some more tall guys in the top ranks.

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