Has anybody tried this stuff? What did you think of it?
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12-13-2001, 06:08 PM #1
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12-15-2001, 10:56 PM #2
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12-16-2001, 06:28 AM #3
It is not a good idea, the protein in it is fine for post workout but the problem is the carbs, they are complex carbs, and although maltodextrin has a relitively high GI it will not speed recovery or produce an insulin spike even close to dextrose or any other simple carb. The actually sort of took that study out of context as they surely were reffering to simple carbs not complex as used in the formula. As far as a post workout drink, anything with only whey (25-30g) and a simple carb (prefferably dextrose 50-100g), this is also the best time to take creatine. It is also extremely important to take this immediately after lifting weights, I'm talking about you need to take it to the gym w/ you. hope this helps
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12-16-2001, 10:01 AM #4
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12-17-2001, 07:45 AM #5
post training
Manteca, maltodextrin is fine post workout. I would recomend adding dextrose to the post training formula. Mixing a couple scoops of post training formula and about 25 grams of dextrose is pretty close to the best that you are going to get, well at least for the money. As far as research has shown, the formulation in Surge is the best. It can get very pricey though. Mix two scoops post-training formula, 25 grams of dextrose, 10 grams creatine, and 5-10 grams of L-glutamine peptides and you have the biggest bang for your buck. Most of the proteins and the dextrose will get put to work right away and surge your insulin way up. The increase in insuling will not only replenish the used up glycogen stores, it will also shuttle the protein, via charged up transport systems, into the cells. Another beneficial part to the spiked insulin levels is a subsequent increase in protein synthesis. Maltodextrin, also metabolized very quickly, right next to dextrose, will be there in twenty minutes to extend this window. Besides, you wouldn't want it all at the same time anyhow.
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12-17-2001, 08:22 AM #6
Re: post training
Originally posted by zeppelin
Besides, you wouldn't want it all at the same time anyhow.
Zeppelin, why wouldn't I? I was under the impression that the window of opportunity after training was very small and I had to replenish everything you mentioned (creatine, protein, glycogen, etc.) ASAP. Is this assumption wrong?
Not arguing with you, just trying to make sure I'm doing it right...
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12-17-2001, 11:21 AM #7
post training
You are still going to hit the window, very easily. It is not that the absorption rate of maltodextrin is slow, it is very fast, just not as fast as glucose itself. It can make a difference at the cellular level through the cell mediated transfusion of substances across the membrane. There is a limit as to what can be done at one time. By using maltodextrin, you will avoid having "too much" at one time. Although right after exercise it is unlikely that this will happen often, but why take the chance. Think of the dextrose as the lighter fluid priming the pump, and maltodextrin coming through the door whith his nose up dextroses ass. This system will enable the body to better use the protein in synthesis and recovery as well as lighting the fuse with the creatine.
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12-17-2001, 03:42 PM #8
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12-17-2001, 05:18 PM #9
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12-17-2001, 05:49 PM #10
recovery formula
If you wanted a during/post training supplement, the recovery formula is not the best choice. The protein choices are not optimal. As far as amount per servings goes, I can only tell you what the research goes----> .8-1.0g/kg of carbs and about half that amount, .4-.5g/kg of protein. Split the carbs 50/50 dextrose/maltodextrin and make the protein hydrolyzed whey. Being a hydrolysate means that it has almost entirely been broken down into individual amino acids and can be readily digested. These types of compounds came out of the hospital for patients with renal problems and others who require tube feedings. The only problem with hydrosilates is that they do not go down very easily (taste like ass). So you either come up with a way to covery up the taste, which Biotest has in Surge, or you reduce the amount in the mix, which ************** has done. Optimally, Surge is the best, but for the money the post-training formula is pretty darn good.
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12-18-2001, 06:10 AM #11
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12-18-2001, 06:23 AM #12
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01-10-2011, 06:39 PM #13
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A friend of mine told me that Protein Factory makes excellent products, but don't worry so much about making them taste great. Is the quality of their products truly worth the terrible taste I've heard of? Also, anyone notice a significant boost in recover-ability when supplementing with the Protein Factory recovery forumula?
Thanks for your opinions, all. Much Obliged.http://www.RapidMuscleRecovery.com - You want me to do what?!
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05-31-2012, 09:58 PM #14
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