All these threads about guys wanting to get laid and working so hard and buying e-books and **** is LAME. If you aren't getting laid, you don't want to be getting laid.
I say that because getting laid is easy. I don't care if you're a male model, an alpha male, or a random "AFC".
Guys sit around reading dumb e-books and typing post son how to get girls to talk around them really don't want to get laid. This does not help you get laid, it just takes away from your video game so you spend it reading and posting about girls and complaining about your dick which hasn't seen daylight since '97.
If you wanna get laid:
Spend some money on clothes, quit bitching about "skinny frat guys" in pink t-shirts and $80 jeans and how all girls want them. Hello, if all girls want them, then take a ****ing clue! Not saying you have to wear abercrombie and diesels, but at least dress nice instead of old navy and target.
Get a nice body. Ever meet a girl who has like a 4 or 5 face but a banging body, so you still would tear it up without thinking about it? A butterface, basically. No reason you can't be the male equivelant. I'm sorry, but if you have over 1,000 posts on BODYBUILDING.com and are not good looking physique wise, you are a dumb ****.
Get friends who are not nerds. Friends with (oh my god) girls! Easiest way to get a girlfriend is have your friend hook you up, but you wanna keep hanging out with lame guys. You'd rather go watch star wars with your lame friends then try to meet some people at a party or take up a sport.
Stop acting ****ing weird around girls. This goes with trying to be the "alpha male" and acting like a sex offender to being the super nice guy telling every female she has the nicest eyes you've ever seen.
Join some clubs or something and talk to girls. You'd be surprised how many guys complain about never getting laid and DON'T EVEN HAVE ANY FEMALE FRIENDS! They talk to maybe 2-4 girls a day at school or work or the gym, and never more than a 5 minute conversation.
Quit trying to be a super player and just be yourself. You may not be able to **** 500 girls acting normal, but guess what, you can't **** 1 by acting weird. So work on getting at least one cool girlfriend before trying to revamp your entire lifestyle.
That's all. If you aren't getting laid you simply don't wanna get laid.
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05-19-2005, 10:34 AM #1
If you aren't getting laid, you don't want to
You should always play fair when you have the winning hand.
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05-19-2005, 10:43 AM #2
I agree with most parts there....most of the guys try too hard and come off as creepy.
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05-19-2005, 10:47 AM #3Originally Posted by Big_League"CURLS FOR THE GURLS"
"SQUATS FOR THE TWATS"
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05-19-2005, 10:52 AM #4
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05-19-2005, 10:54 AM #5
Big League you do have a point. There are girls as horny as you are ugly f**k standards eh?
Yep, some guys are afraid of girls and come off creepy, needy, etc. Some guys just don't know how to talk to women.A hit was sent, from the President, to raid your residence /
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05-19-2005, 11:20 AM #6Originally Posted by sword_"CURLS FOR THE GURLS"
"SQUATS FOR THE TWATS"
"I MIGHT LOOK DUMB BUT I CAN LIFT HEAVY THINGS"
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05-19-2005, 12:02 PM #8Originally Posted by Big_League
I gotta impress you cool frat guys so I'm gonna buy an 80 dollar pair of jeans that looks like something out of the garbage can, get a pink polo and a black undershirt and start being myself. Oh wait that's a completely fabricated.
So many contradictions but I'm sure you'll get it worked out soon just in time for your new ebook. You are the ****."I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies" - Thomas Jefferson
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05-19-2005, 01:10 PM #10
Standards or no standards, doesn't matter. True, lower standards you can get a GF quicker, but honestly it's not hard to find a HOT girl either.
I already see guys proving my point right, here is the bb.com "asf crew" saying "no man you're so wrong", because to them getting laid is hard. If they were getting laid they would be agreeing with me, saying getting laid is easy.
No point argueing with these nerds though. They will probably never get women if they aren't able to just chill out. Obviously, if you convinced yourself that girls won't like you if you just act normal, you are gonna have big problems getting hot girls.You should always play fair when you have the winning hand.
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05-19-2005, 02:04 PM #12Originally Posted by Big_League
It's easy for you losers to get laid by UGs in social circles. ok great. wanna biscuit?. That's about the only thing in that super cool post of yours that makes any sense other than learning how to dress. Big deal. I know you can't cold approach 9's and 10's for **** so can it."I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies" - Thomas Jefferson
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05-19-2005, 02:04 PM #13Originally Posted by Big_League
Guys sit around reading dumb e-books and typing post son how to get girls to talk around them really don't want to get laid.
Success occurs when planning meets action.
I do agree with you that 99% of guys who study pick-up mentally masturbate by reading all day without putting any of it into practice. BUT the 1% who do have learnt from the stuff of others and go do battle, then return and debrief on how it went, learn a little bit more, then go do it again.
This does not help you get laid, it just takes away from your video game so you spend it reading and posting about girls and complaining about your dick which hasn't seen daylight since '97.
If you wanna get laid:
Spend some money on clothes, quit bitching about "skinny frat guys" in pink t-shirts and $80 jeans and how all girls want them. Hello, if all girls want them, then take a ****ing clue! Not saying you have to wear abercrombie and diesels, but at least dress nice instead of old navy and target.
It's an easy way to get AI from some of the hottest girls.
But only if your bodylanguage is good! (i.e. alpha-male)
Get a nice body. Ever meet a girl who has like a 4 or 5 face but a banging body, so you still would tear it up without thinking about it? A butterface, basically. No reason you can't be the male equivelant. I'm sorry, but if you have over 1,000 posts on BODYBUILDING.com and are not good looking physique wise, you are a dumb ****.
I wanna pick-up this butterface I know. Her face fell out of the ugly tree, and hit every branch on the way down, but her body is 9+. Thing is, her friends hate me. So I can't play the social proof game.
Get friends who are not nerds. Friends with (oh my god) girls! Easiest way to get a girlfriend is have your friend hook you up, but you wanna keep hanging out with lame guys. You'd rather go watch star wars with your lame friends then try to meet some people at a party or take up a sport.
Stop acting ****ing weird around girls. This goes with trying to be the "alpha male" and acting like a sex offender to being the super nice guy telling every female she has the nicest eyes you've ever seen.
You're wrong about the alpha male.
The field has shown us that the APPROXIMATION to alpha-male behaviour is good enough to get even the 9-10 girls. In other words, cocky/funny, routines and all the other PU techniques work.
Join some clubs or something and talk to girls. You'd be surprised how many guys complain about never getting laid and DON'T EVEN HAVE ANY FEMALE FRIENDS! They talk to maybe 2-4 girls a day at school or work or the gym, and never more than a 5 minute conversation.
Quit trying to be a super player and just be yourself. You may not be able to **** 500 girls acting normal, but guess what, you can't **** 1 by acting weird. So work on getting at least one cool girlfriend before trying to revamp your entire lifestyle.
First of all run PRACTICE GAME. For a guy starting out, internalise the techniques and the material by practicing on 12 sets a night a few times a week.
First of all work on OPENING.
Once you can open effectively, work on CONVEYING YOUR PERSONALITY, and internalising your material.
Then once you get good at causing attraction, work on mid-game. etc.
This is far more effective.
If you work on getting a girlfriend, you'll be TOO goal-orientated. A pathetic newbie is gonna choke at this.
As for being yourself, the trouble is society has overwritten your true self with it's feminazi bull**** propaganda.
When you tell a guy to be himself, he is just a overly nice appeasing ass-kissing wussy, because that's the way society has taught him to be.
If you want to get him to how he was supposed to have developed mentally, you can't do it simply by telling him to be himself, because he doesn't know what that is.
Better to ask him: "What do you want?".
He'll say: "To **** loads of chicks who are 9+ quality"
Then, we should teach him the best way to DO THAT.
That's all. If you aren't getting laid you simply don't wanna get laid.
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05-19-2005, 04:27 PM #14
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05-19-2005, 05:57 PM #16Originally Posted by I Love You
Also give me some examples or something. You can't just say "Well if you read ASF you will get 9s, and if you do not spend time reading this **** you will never **** above a 7". That's just you making stuff up.
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Okay, for example, let's say you are trying to watch a movie with your friends. But your DVD player won't work. So you bust out the instruction manuel, you look up for help on-line, you rewire everything three times, but STILL it won't work. Then your friend comes up and switches the TV to channel 3. That's what this **** is. Getting laid is simple, it's easy if you make it easy. It's only hard to you because you make it hard.
Originally Posted by I Love YouYou should always play fair when you have the winning hand.
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05-19-2005, 05:58 PM #17
I Love You steals the show...now let me comment more
Some guys come to ASF or the 'asf crew' to learn how to land girls 7 or higher. Sure some guys are satisfied with ugly ass girls, **** a few fat and ugly girls have eyed me, but I know what I like, and it's not with them. Some guys aren't even comfortable around ugly girls. Big League, you have given some people the same advice some of us 'PUAs' on the boards have given men before. One of my wingmen I sarge with was kinda a natural before he got to asf , laying 12 girls (standards questionable). He decided to learn more about pickup skills after he lost his chances with a prom queen or some ****.
I came in the game because I was unconfident with women. What's the problem with learning how to talk to women better, becoming a more confident man, and actually getting women better than a 5? You mother****ers need to stop flaming us who are trying to help each other out with picking up women and collaborating on ideas.
I don't think I talk on here just to hear myself talk...and we do have a term for people who just sit and talk about the theory of pickup rather than actually doing it. They are called keyboard jockeys...none of the guys on the bb.com boards do that from what I've seen.A hit was sent, from the President, to raid your residence /
Because you had secret evidence, and documents /
On how they raped the continents, and it's the prominent /
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05-19-2005, 06:07 PM #18Originally Posted by Big_League
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05-19-2005, 06:17 PM #20Originally Posted by Big_League
Plus I haven't been in the game for a long time (was a nerd, used to be in ROTC, fought depression, etc)...long story that I don't feel like typing on the boards.A hit was sent, from the President, to raid your residence /
Because you had secret evidence, and documents /
On how they raped the continents, and it's the prominent /
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- GZA "4th Chamber"
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05-19-2005, 06:30 PM #21
I agree totally. If a guy wants to get laid all he has to do is go out and get a girl that's into the action and go for it.
I was so ready to lose my virginity the summer I graduated high school, but my gf at the time wasn't ready. I could only get a hand job out of her. Anyway we broke up over that summer. I started college. Met this girl who wasn't a virgin, went out on a few dates and before I knew it she was riding me in my dorm room. Sweet I tell ya. Ever since that night I have had no problems getting laid.
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05-19-2005, 06:38 PM #22
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05-19-2005, 06:42 PM #23Originally Posted by sword_
Be yourself. Again, what if you are a dork with no social skills? Do you continue talking about boring things and getting bad reactions until someone likes you or do you learn what women actually respond to?
Also alot of guys who think this is easy are better looking than average so they are satisfied with A girl that is roughly in his league or lower. You will need to use your personality if you ever want to get hot girls if you are a 6 in looks. This is not addressed here as if women are just men with tits and don't care about personality.
Again you have to realize that girls react differently to different looking guys. If I walk up to a girl and say something she may react differently than if you walk up. However there are some universal truths that can bring up everyone's game and that's all we try to discuss here.
And if it's so easy why do guys make so many mistakes with women even after they get them? Read some of the threads and you see some really clueless non ASF guys who can't keep a woman's interest for ****. No answers here. Apparently it's some kind of mystery to most people why their gfs run off when it's painfully obvious to me. They blame the girl. LOL
Further, why is a guy who needs to make friends with females hoping to get hooked up calling himself a player? And if he's not a player, who gives a ****? ASF is FAST SEDUCTION meaning how to get as many girls as possible without having to be an emotional tampon or pay like a john, not how to make friends and hang out hoping to get laid some day. This is mostly about COLD APPROACHING. When some of you get out of hs and college and into the real dating world you will find that your social circle dwindles quite a bit as people get married and schedules become hectic.
Why not have sex with all of them and THEN use them as social proof or try to hook up a threesome? If he hasn't figured this out yet then I am not impressed. He is preaching GED level skills to college students here talking about how easy they are. Well no **** but merely having a nice looking gf with no control over the terms of the relationship is not all that impressive to me anymore."I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies" - Thomas Jefferson
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05-19-2005, 06:45 PM #24Originally Posted by peng"I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies" - Thomas Jefferson
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05-19-2005, 07:08 PM #25Originally Posted by drstrangepimp
LOL...then guys like Ruthless4Life make AFCish threads, then diss PUAs trying to help guys like him out...LOLA hit was sent, from the President, to raid your residence /
Because you had secret evidence, and documents /
On how they raped the continents, and it's the prominent /
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- GZA "4th Chamber"
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05-19-2005, 07:31 PM #26
'PUA' doesn't mean 'pimp'. It's simply a way of assisting with success. Many people are going over the top with all that crap. It's true, good looking guys have it easier and get away with more. 'PUA' stuff is just a way to understand social dynamics more, and to assist in creating attraction. It's not a magic formula or "the solution" that should be followed word-for-word. It's just a bit more of an understanding of social situations and attraction.
Although it isn't a negative thing, it can be when taken too far like many people. It's ok to understand what's going on etc. but don't ever get bogged down in the detail. What the thread starter stated should be CORE to you. Dress well, be yourself, and so on. However, that's not to dismiss this 'PUA' stuff completely. I think it's for COMPLIMENTING the core of who you are. A 'sidekick' if you will. It's more like a wheel on a car. It helps supports the car, but the engine is what's really gives the kick. If the engine fails, at least you have those wheels so you can still get out and push. Get the idea?
Ah that was longer than i anticipated... oh well.
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