Splenda?

FFbob · 09-29-2007, 10:48 AM

I am new to the forum and bodybuiding, could somebody give me some advise on Splenda. I have been told it is bad and then some people tell me its OK. Thanks for any input.

in10city · 09-29-2007, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by FFbob

I am new to the forum and bodybuiding, could somebody give me some advise on Splenda. I have been told it is bad and then some people tell me its OK. Thanks for any input.

My advise is not to use it in excess.

Aindreas · 09-29-2007, 10:54 AM

Is it good for you? No. Is it bad for you? Possibly, but in moderation nothing's gonna happen. It beats the hell out of drinking straight hfcs, I'll say that much.

Scott~ · 09-29-2007, 11:41 AM

There's no proof that aspartame is bad for you, but just consider it's made in a laboratory, it doesn't exist in nature. I recently bought a box of Stevia packets and honestly I can't tell much of a difference between the two.

Sixpack · 09-29-2007, 11:44 AM

Use liquid stevia if you are worried

in10city · 09-29-2007, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott~

There's no proof that aspartame is bad for you, but just consider it's made in a laboratory, it doesn't exist in nature. I recently bought a box of Stevia packets and honestly I can't tell much of a difference between the two.

Aspartame != Splenda

Josh5442 · 09-29-2007, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by in10city

Aspartame != Splenda

Splenda = Sucralose
Aspartame is in things like Equal...two different sweeteners

in10city · 09-29-2007, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh5442

Splenda = Sucralose
Aspartame is in things like Equal...two different sweeteners

Ummm.... That's what I said.

FFbob · 09-29-2007, 02:22 PM

Thanks for all the feedback. I have used stevia and liked it. I think I will stick with stevia. Thanks again

in10city · 09-29-2007, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FFbob

Thanks for all the feedback. I have used stevia and liked it. I think I will stick with stevia. Thanks again

In the spirit of full-disclosure, you might find this a bit deflating about Stevia -> Stevia?

Specifically these...
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...53&postcount=5
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...33&postcount=6

PROT · 09-29-2007, 03:29 PM

and kidney and liver enlargement.

Aspartame is worse..it causes brain tumors and a variety of other serious neurological complaints. It is excitotoxic and passes the blood/brain barrier easily. It lowers the threshhold for seizures, etc

All this info is readily available with a simple google.

The only safe sweetener is honey as its antibacterial and antifungal.

PatMac · 09-29-2007, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PROT

and kidney and liver enlargement.

Aspartame is worse..it causes brain tumors and a variety of other serious neurological complaints. It is excitotoxic and passes the blood/brain barrier easily. It lowers the threshhold for seizures, etc

All this info is readily available with a simple google.

The only safe sweetener is honey as its antibacterial and antifungal.

Eh it makes my Oats tastes good, I'll take the good with the bad

buffgrk · 09-29-2007, 04:06 PM

too much protein is supposed to be bad for you, everything is supposed to be bad for you.. i have splenda its way better then having a spoonful of sugar imo.. best thing ive ever bought to make my foods taste better

xl Achilles lx · 09-29-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PROT

and kidney and liver enlargement.

Aspartame is worse..it causes brain tumors and a variety of other serious neurological complaints. It is excitotoxic and passes the blood/brain barrier easily. It lowers the threshhold for seizures, etc

All this info is readily available with a simple google.

The only safe sweetener is honey as its antibacterial and antifungal.

I'd like to see the study that concluded these results.

LayzieBone085 · 09-29-2007, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by xl Achilles lx

I'd like to see the study that concluded these results.

im waiting for them also

rob? · 09-29-2007, 05:28 PM

1 or 2 packets is probably fine a day. There are some nutjobs on here who have like 1/2 cup/day.. which is the problem.

Kaitou · 09-29-2007, 05:28 PM

Sugar is bad, too. >_> Virtually anything made to sweeten things is bad for you in some way. Choose your poison.

buffgrk · 09-29-2007, 05:29 PM

i have about 1-1.5 table spoons of splenda a day, i think in moderation is fine.. anything in moderation is fine

xl Achilles lx · 09-29-2007, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaitou

Sugar is bad, too. >_> Virtually anything made to sweeten things is bad for you in some way. Choose your poison.

Sugar isn't bad. It's natural, and when taken in moderation, it's perfectly fine.

LayzieBone085 · 09-29-2007, 06:10 PM

id say IMO that if you feel ur craving sugars just get it from fruits.. probably the best way you can get them in you or from a good milk/dairy source

rob? · 09-29-2007, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LayzieBone085

id say IMO that if you feel ur craving sugars just get it from fruits.. probably the best way you can get them in you or from a good milk/dairy source

good idea. tomorrow morning ill stick an apple in my cup of coffee instead of equal.

xl Achilles lx · 09-29-2007, 06:22 PM

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good idea. tomorrow morning ill stick an apple in my cup of coffee instead of equal.

lmfao. Reps.

Revolver45 · 09-29-2007, 06:38 PM

It's not as bad as aspartame. I have it once or twice a day, every morning in my oatmeal, and then I drink a fair bit of diet nestea, which is sweetened with Splenda. I'm thinking of trying honey in my oatmeal, it'll probably taste like ass but it's worth a shot.

Aindreas · 09-29-2007, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by xl Achilles lx

lmfao. Reps.

Lol, repped x2.

Spottydog · 09-29-2007, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PROT

Aspartame is worse..it causes brain tumors and a variety of other serious neurological complaints.

Yeah, yeah, equal gives you cancer. I think that's bull.

xl Achilles lx · 09-29-2007, 07:39 PM

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Yeah, yeah, equal gives you cancer. I think that's bull.

I agree with you. I use Equal all the freaken time. Equal, splenda, sweet n low...it's all the same to me. I just don't use 70 packets a day like some people do.

LayzieBone085 · 09-29-2007, 08:41 PM

you have to enjoy the old ladies who put 6 packets of splenda in a small cup of coffee and then they wonder why their hands are shaking like an volcano about to erupt

god damn old ass cafe ladies.. no wonder why they always drop my chicken breasts.

mcdbb · 09-29-2007, 10:23 PM

Isn't splenda FIVE HUNDRED TIMES sweeter than table sugar? If you are using that much splenda you have more serious problems than artificial sweeteners. The maximum allowable is 15mg per kilogram of bodyweight. That is an ungodly amount of sweetener, if you ask me.

Aindreas · 09-29-2007, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mcdbb

Isn't splenda FIVE HUNDRED TIMES sweeter than table sugar? If you are using that much splenda you have more serious problems than artificial sweeteners. The maximum allowable is 15mg per kilogram of bodyweight. That is an ungodly amount of sweetener, if you ask me.

Sucralose is 500x sweeter than sugar. However, splenda packets, which are mostly dextrose and maltodextrin, are not.

PROT · 09-29-2007, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Spottydog

Yeah, yeah, equal gives you cancer. I think that's bull.

Specifically it gives people and animals brain cancer. This info was hidden by Searle before presenting the aspartame to the FDA and the government pushed for indictments against Searle but the US attorney in Chicago quit and went to work for Searles law firm. Donald Rumsfeld was CEO of Searle and when Reagan became president he forbade the FDA from any decisions until a new ccommissioner was appointed. The new FDA commisioner overruled scientific panels which found aspartame unsafe and approved it anyway. He then went to work for Searle as a consultant.

Aspartame breaks down into 4 substances in the body and all are harmful, aspartic acid, phenylalanine, methanol, and formaldehyde. The body has no way to remove formaldehyde but its the aspartic acid which crosses the blood/brain barrier easily and lowers the "seizure threshold". In other words test subjects (humans) have had a greatly enhanced rate of seizures. They also developed blindness and a high incidence of brain tumors. The actual animal tests on aspartame showed high mortality to neurological damage in both rats and monkeys. These are the studies Searle withheld from the government when seeking approval. There is a program on FSTV entitled "SWEET MISERY' dealing with this health problem but there are also many sites that you can research. Lupus, MS, etc have all been attributed to aspartame as it is an excitotoxin that overstimulates the brain. I know its tough to believe all this but its out there if you search. People are too glib about health risks of these chemicals in our environment.