A comparison that should have been made..

[BigPopaPump]

Cutler Vs Wolf, but in my opinion Cutler got beat by at least 5 Olympians.

And in the some attempt to make Jay look bigger and better, his pics are bigger.

Who wins?

[mustang22]

jay wins....wolf will be no higher then 4

[Leonidas80]

Originally Posted by mustang22

jay wins....wolf will be no higher then 4

Wolf looks better imo MUCH better. WOLF FTW

[crom_]

Originally Posted by Leonidas80

Wolf looks better imo MUCH better. WOLF FTW

agreed

[xec]

Wolf has better conditioning and his legs + waist look more pleasing to the eye...he should win...

EDIT: after looking at all the other pics wolf beats cutler in EVERY SINGLE ONE....hell even the back pic...wolf looks UNREAL...that shoulder to waist ratio is crazy

[mustang22]

wolfs lats don't seem to be as wide and he needs to bring up his legs ...jay is looking a little smooth and holding some water, it will all be out or should be by tonight and he should have no problems...

[Coal Man]

Wolf looks alot better.

Factor in the size discrepancies and Wolf destroys Cutler.

[xec]

Jay looks like **** I am sorry to say, hes so damn soft, his waist is huge and his distended melting abs are pathetic

[BigPopaPump]

This is why Olympia is so stupid. They will continue to protect Jay, and other big names even when they are clearly sub-par compared to contestant who will probably place 5 places below him!

I was beaten 3 times last year in bodybuilding shows. Each time by guys who had 'earned their dues' Whatever the **** that means. From Am to Pro, its the same **** world wide.

[mustang22]

Thats true is politics, I think Jay will win this Olympia and there will be a new Mr. Olympia next year...with Jay calling it quits after next year most likely.

[Gaffigan]

D.W. looks F**KING INSANE!!! I'm not even kidding, he is 100% PERFECTION!!! I don't know if he'll beat Jay or Ronnie (due to politics), but I would place him ahead of Dexter and Victor.

[Gaffigan]

Jay does have better calves, though.

[Amra]

Wolf has one severe weak point though...his calves. Look at the back-double-bi.

[mike8190]

Originally Posted by xec

Jay looks like **** I am sorry to say, hes so damn soft, his waist is huge and his distended melting abs are pathetic

I agree, he should not win this O, IMO. Im a fan of Cutler's, but not of his physique (besides his legs, sometimes), if that makes any sense. I hate how soft he's looking, and I see NO veins. I know veins are genetic, as well as waist size, but lets make something clear, this is a game that is mostly based on genetics. You can't always make ****ing excuses that he has no vascularity, a big waist, etc etc because of his genetics.

Oh yeah, and a lot of people say he has weak calves, I completely agree. But someone's win/loss should not be decided on just his calves. Wolf may not look as large as cutler, but he definately looks better, minus one bodypart, his calves.

[Black Hercules]

The Wolf has definately come up! He's kicking Jay's ass in every one of those poses. It'll be a gotdamn shame if politics come into play and Jay finishes ahead of him.

[tony404]

Gentlemen tonight will tell the tale.

[CF10]

Wolf wins hands down, it's not even close. His back is not bad enough to deny what he brings from every other shot and angle. That ab and thigh is sick. Look at the flow from his lats to his waist to his quad sweep. I think he'll get screwed though.

[Skigazzi]

I thought Jay was going to blow me away with his conditioning....didn't happen...I was surprised that he looked like a 4th place competitor from the waste up (his legs are still top notch). I really like how vic looks, and even dexter has to be given a nod in terms of looking great, he added some perfectly proportioned size so its hard to even tell again.

Id have liked to see gustavo compared to Jay and Vic, at least his upper body which looks insane.

and yes, I think wolf is the freak of the stage now, and looks better than all of them...in the way that if you showed them to people on the street who didnt know anything, I think they'd pic Wolf and Dex in that order.

I dunno...Jay just looks kinda lumpy and soft...he looked better 2 weeks out i think.

[M4A1 Widowmaker]

The one thing I like of Wolf's over Jay's is his front delts. They're awesome in the second pic from the last. Unfortunately, Jay will win.

[germanyt]

I am rooting for Wolfe. But Jay has more mass, much better legs, and he is the current O. Jay will win. I would like to see Wolfe take a top 5 and I'll definitly be rooting for his win next year. Ronnie should not have shown up. He'll only take a top 5 because he is a previous winner and is retiring.

[MegaPump]

Wolf has Jay beat but you know thats not how it will go. I ll be looking out for Wolf in the future.

[lilbulldog]

my german heritage, has me routing for the german's, but I think Jay will win, Jay's legs look more defined than Wolf's, Jay is blockier in the waist and has better calves, but its all in the eyes of the judges

[jackfast1]

wolf is incredible!
but even to my untrained eye his calves are a glaring weakness!

put some calves on him and he is the winner!

[germanyt]

I know this doesn't apply to this thread but I felt like it didn't deserve it's own thread.

Is the final judging going to be televised? If not, why the hell not and how can I get info online as it happens?

[mike8190]

Originally Posted by rmulax19

The one thing I like of Wolf's over Jay's is his front delts. They're awesome in the second pic from the last. Unfortunately, Jay will win.

I personally like everything of Wolf's over Jay. Only thing I like better about Jay are his calves. And yeah, Jay will win. But I dont think he deserves it. It must be such a pain in the ass working your ass off, coming in looking better than everyone, INCLUDING the defending champ, and not placing first.

[cgcgraded]

In a land where shows are judged fairly Wolf wins this Olympia outright. He is smoking every guy in the lineup. The reason he didn't get 1st callout was they were afraid he would make everyone else look bad. He deserves to win, and if not they better damn well give him top 3 and if they place Ronnie ahead of Wolf it will be a crime.

[BigPopaPump]

Originally Posted by cgcgraded

In a land where shows are judged fairly Wolf wins this Olympia outright. He is smoking every guy in the lineup. The reason he didn't get 1st callout was they were afraid he would make everyone else look bad. He deserves to win, and if not they better damn well give him top 3 and if they place Ronnie ahead of Wolf it win be a crime.

Agreed. The only thing people have to knock on are his calves, but.. Compar them to other top contenders calves. Ronnie? Dexter? Melvin? even Victor has high calves, so you can't knock him for that. If Olympia was for calves, Cutlers lookin pretty good..

[J_Bo]

Originally Posted by Gaffigan

Jay does have better calves, though.

LOL...that's true, at least it will give Jay fans an arguement as to why Jay beats him!

[hybridx]

I just don't think Wolf can pull it out. Callouts would seem to prove that. Charles Glass says he needs to improve the lower back.

If Victor wins, I hope Wolf comes in next year 15 lbs. heavier with the same aesthetics and takes it down.

[J_Bo]

Originally Posted by cgcgraded

In a land where shows are judged fairly Wolf wins this Olympia outright. He is smoking every guy in the lineup. The reason he didn't get 1st callout was they were afraid he would make everyone else look bad. He deserves to win, and if not they better damn well give him top 3 and if they place Ronnie ahead of Wolf it win be a crime.

Look at this pic! Everyone says he has no wheels, but they re the saze size as Ronnie's! And his waist is about half the size. The reason he's being discriminated against is because of his age and the judges all figure he will have plenty of more chances.