Winstrol losing effectiveness?

[Hbsurfer]

Hi everyone,

I am a newbie to steroids, have been training for two years and took my first roids last summer. I am living in China now, where it is legal to buy raw powder steroids. I wanted to start out with something very mild so I chose Winstrol....the other stuff was expensive and I don't have access to anything I can use to make injectable gear...don't know where to get the right stuff for that here in China....so I am stuck with orals..

Anyway, I know Winstrol only isn't a very great cycle, but my first cycle was Winnie only at 50 mg. a day of the powder. After two weeks, I made some incredible gains of strength and size and gained 15 pounds altogether during the six weeks of the cycle. After that, I waited about four months and took another cycle of the same....but that time, I gained no weight at all and barely noticed any strength gains....what is up with that? Did I not wait long enough, or what?

Then, recently, I ordered some Dianabol powder from the same company. I realize it isn't a good idea to take Dianabol with another AAS steroid, but I have heard of people doing that so my intention was to kickstart a six week cycle of Winnie by taking three weeks of 35 mg. of DBOL along with 50 mg. of Winnie, and then cut out the DBOL after three weeks....

anyway, I seemed to get no results whatsoever from the DBOL and am surprised because I have read everywhere that DBOL is amazing the first time you take it....I did take some Tamoxifen with it and I know that will cut down on the weight gain and water retention but I still expected to notice SOMETHING....anyway, nothing happened. I was training hard and eating plenty of protein, at least one kilo of chicken breast a day, not to mention eggs and other protein rich stuff...I was taking in plenty of calories so I wonder if my powder was bunk or what....? I am surprised that only the first cycle of Winnie alone did anything for me. Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated.

[Voodoo]

This is very common......one main concept if you aren't gaining weight, one of at least three things is not optimum. Rest, nutrition, training. I suspect that you need more food. You have more muscle now and so you have more receptors.....so more than likely you'll need a higher dose of aas to get the same reaction as the first cycle. I would suggest you try to find some injectibles like test and deca.

[Tony]

test should be the base of pretty much all cycles. And Dbol alone is not a good idea. I realize you didn't do that, but you said that you heard it's not good to take Dbol with anything else. Each time you cycle you will have to increase dosage to see more results.

You should do some more research. start with the stickies

[Hbsurfer]

I appreciate all of your advise....Anyway, I am pretty sure my nutrition was o.k., but I'm wondering what else could be wrong. I will increase the dosage next time...I'm living in China and can get any kind of raw steroid powder legally and easily, but can't find any solvents to make injectables and they won't even let anyone send them to me here. I wonder if there is any way to take testoserone via injection by substituting the Benzyl alcohol with something else...I can get sesame oil, but not sure about the other stuff I need. I am waiting a few months for another cycle and hope to have a good idea about what to do next time. Thanks for any advice!

[purple panther]

after you take aas a few times it becomes less and less effective. body becomes ammune. go to test -decca.