Trac Creatine, Prolab Androbolic

[Millennium1]

I have been taking both of these products for about a month and haven't noticed much of a difference in my gains. I eat a ton (350g carbs and 250g protein per day) and workout 4 days a week but the only thing that seems to grow is my gut.

Has anyone else used this stuff with good results?

[petefox]

It's simple, and I'll put it to you gently, unlike some guys here.
Trac is crap, there is no scientific way to time-release creatine without it degrading while waiting to be absorbed. Stick with regular creatine powder with either juice, or as I use it, Ultra Fuel by Twinlab. Androbolic, same thing, andro cannot be time-released. Plus, it contains chrysin, which stops andro from working. Want andro? Use Higher Power 4AD in 300mg. caps, or Ergopharm Androdiol, same dose but more $$. Anything but those overhyped wheat pills you're choking down. And WHATEVER you do, DON'T go for AcetabolanII, or any andro product from HustleTech! Some believe otherwise, but I feel that Celltech is their best product, even though it does have its issues, I admit.