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    Yoga and Powerlifting

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    stretching not the best thing for power...yoga every once in a while might be ok, but stretching is damaging to and fatiguing to muscle.
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    Originally Posted by LockOut View Post
    stretching not the best thing for power...yoga every once in a while might be ok, but stretching is damaging to and fatiguing to muscle.
    Do you have any sources to back this up? Not calling you out, just wondering.

    From what I know, if a lifter can do things to increase their mobility(ie; yoga), then they can be a better lifter. For instance, decreased chance of injury, increased ability to arch when benching or go deeper when squatting, etc.
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    Originally Posted by RipStone View Post
    Do you have any sources to back this up? Not calling you out, just wondering.

    From what I know, if a lifter can do things to increase their mobility(ie; yoga), then they can be a better lifter. For instance, decreased chance of injury, increased ability to arch when benching or go deeper when squatting, etc.
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    ya i realise this is a girls article but it brings up alotta good points about why yogas bad. but you shoulda do what you want to do. regarding flexibility for powerlifting, i think you should most definately work your flexibility to b able 2 wedge yourself in the proper positions for everything, but up to a certain point i read somewhere that being over flexible with "power sports" can take away some of your speed and power n such and actually increase your chances of getting injured. i cant find sources for that but im sure if sombody actually googled it theyed find sumthin? just my 2 cents
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    You know what, Ima call that one out real quick. Stretching is NOT damaging to your muscles, on the contrary, it helps them build stronger. It might keep them from having full hyperthrophy and all that great stuff, but he's asking about powerlifting, so for strength, therefore, heavy lifting+stretchy stretchy is a YAY!
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    Originally Posted by DarkFlames View Post
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    x3, plus keep a straighter back on pulls, it's a stupid stereotype that yoga's gay or whatever...
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    Originally Posted by matthewluke60 View Post
    You know what, Ima call that one out real quick. Stretching is NOT damaging to your muscles, on the contrary, it helps them build stronger. It might keep them from having full hyperthrophy and all that great stuff, but he's asking about powerlifting, so for strength, therefore, heavy lifting+stretchy stretchy is a YAY!
    i never said stretching was bad for your muscles.....; i actually think dynamic stretching should be a part of everyones warm-up and static passive stretching.
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    Originally Posted by matthewluke60 View Post
    You know what, Ima call that one out real quick. Stretching is NOT damaging to your muscles, on the contrary, it helps them build stronger. It might keep them from having full hyperthrophy and all that great stuff, but he's asking about powerlifting, so for strength, therefore, heavy lifting+stretchy stretchy is a YAY!
    It's not that stretching damages muscles or anything like that. It's good to have flexibility. The problem with yoga and power sports is that you need your muscles to be tight so that you can lift more and stay in groove/balance/stabilize easier. When/If your muscles get too loose then you lose strength and stabilizing ability. As far as yoga being gay... I did it once, and it was alright. I didn't like it that much though, so I'll probably never do it again. Wouldn't really call it gay though, just weird.
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    stretching too much makes you more prone to injury when lifting big weights. especialy squats. I stretch after the workout.
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    Originally Posted by BSN dude View Post
    stretching too much makes you more prone to injury when lifting big weights. especialy squats. I stretch after the workout.
    Where'd you read this? I honestly, never had this problem. I mean I'm not STRONG by the accounts of the people on this board, but I'm slowly progressing, and I do yoga. It's fine, in fact helps the bodily stability and strength by quite a bit. No problems with injuries, in fact I think it might have helped me.

    Stability definitely increases, which is quite important considering, many sports coaches advice on unilateral work. A crane pose may seem simple but it probably isn't all that easy for the 240LBS powerlifter that didn't practice. I can do pistols easily with about 15KG's a hand, even without practice, and I must say it's probably thanks to yoga.
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    Originally Posted by sirwazzles View Post
    It's not that stretching damages muscles or anything like that. It's good to have flexibility. The problem with yoga and power sports is that you need your muscles to be tight so that you can lift more and stay in groove/balance/stabilize easier. When/If your muscles get too loose then you lose strength and stabilizing ability. As far as yoga being gay... I did it once, and it was alright. I didn't like it that much though, so I'll probably never do it again. Wouldn't really call it gay though, just weird.
    I think you are confusing two concepts here.

    When you do a powerlift, yes, you want to be as "tight" as possible. This, however, does not mean you physically have tight, un-flexibile muscles. Rather, getting "tight" during a lift is about tensing your entire body.

    Musclar flexibility is a whole different aspect of fitness, and IMO a powerlifter's ability to get perform a lift will only be positivley impacted if they have more musclar flexibility.
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    ok i did a bitta research and Strength training and flexibility training should go hand in hand. It is a common misconception that there must always be a trade-off between flexibility and strength. Obviously, if you neglect flexibility training altogether in order to train for strength then you are certainly sacrificing flexibility (and vice versa). However, performing exercises for both strength and flexibility need not sacrifice either one. As a matter of fact, flexibility training and strength training can actually enhance one another.

    however overflexibility in any muscle should be avoided at allcosts: It is possible for the muscles of a joint to become too flexible. According to SynerStretch, there is a tradeoff between flexibility and stability. As you get "looser" or more limber in a particular joint, less support is given to the joint by its surrounding muscles. Excessive flexibility can be just as bad as not enough because both increase your risk of injury.

    Once a muscle has reached its absolute maximum length, attempting to stretch the muscle further only serves to stretch the ligaments and put undue stress upon the tendons (two things that you do not want to stretch). Ligaments will tear when stretched more than 6% of their normal length. Tendons are not even supposed to be able to lengthen. Even when stretched ligaments and tendons do not tear, loose joints and/or a decrease in the joint's stability can occur (thus vastly increasing your risk of injury).

    sparknotes: flexibilty and strength work hand n hand.
    if uve reached a maximal range of flexibility dont try getting further...
    and yoga is still bad go 2 my original post and go to the link
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    What the ****? There aren't any powerlifters that are anywhere near being "too" flexible.

    I try to do 30 minutes of Pilates a couple times of week. Yes, it's sort of gay, but who cares? It's excellent active rest - really helps if you're feeling a little sore.
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    I have worked in one yoga workout a week and it has helped. Especially helps with the beating that your hips take doing a lot of heavy/wide squats. I think it has also helped my lower back stay healthy.
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    #1 I don't care what you say, I am not doing yoga. :P

    Second, flexibility is good up to a point. There are 2 things that affect the stability of a joint. The physical design of the joint and the degree of flexibility.

    By definition, the more flexible a joint is, the less stable it is.

    That is arthrology/biomechanics 101.

    Enough flexibility to keep good form is good. Additional flexibility beyond that is not always better. Shoulders are an excellent example. Healthy, very flexible shoulders (like competitive swimmers) will dislocate more easily than slightly less flexible, healthy shoulders. The same shoulders would be great for swimmers, but bad for football players. There are numerous other examples where too much flexibility predisposes people to injury.

    So like most things, it is good as long as you take it to an unreasonable degree.
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    Originally Posted by Newtt View Post
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    YES, as long as yoga is done after your workouts. Yoga can not only aid flexibility, but it also can help your strength in many aspects. I think yoga would be excellent addition to powerlifting. I hate stretching though. But it always helps with recovery to stretch.
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