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    top 20 players in the nba

    this list is up for debate but here is my opinion. pick it apart as you wish

    1. kobe bryant
    2. lebron james
    3. tim duncan
    4. dwyane wade
    5. steve nash
    6. dirk nowitzki
    7. gilbert arenas
    8. kevin garnett
    9. carmelo anthony
    10. dwight howard
    11. amare stoudemire
    12. yao ming
    13. carlos boozer
    14. allen iverson
    15. tracy mcgrady
    16. vince carter
    17. chris bosh
    18. jason kidd
    19. chauncey billups
    20. paul pierce
    21. tony parker
    22. shawn marion
    23. deron williams
    24. chris paul
    25. baron davis

    edit: forgot about allen iverson so i just included him
    edit: oh crap forgot about bosh and d.howard...ive just made it a top 25 instead
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    Bryant
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    top 5 off the top of my head

    nash
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    Originally Posted by deepthr0at View Post
    top 5 off the top of my head

    nash
    duncan
    kobe
    wade
    james
    that was also my top 5 in my op
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    why haven't i seen baron davis listed yet...did anyone watch the mavervicks vs warriors series... If he is healthy...Baron is the #2 PG...man you can even make an argument for #1 over nash.
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    Originally Posted by Mikesmaf View Post
    why haven't i seen baron davis listed yet...did anyone watch the mavervicks vs warriors series... If he is healthy...Baron is the #2 PG...man you can even make an argument for #1 over nash.
    having one great series doesn't make him a top player.
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    Originally Posted by Mikesmaf View Post
    why haven't i seen baron davis listed yet...did anyone watch the mavervicks vs warriors series... If he is healthy...Baron is the #2 PG...man you can even make an argument for #1 over nash.
    Baron is definitely a top player.. he would be in my top 25 for the league, and top 5 for Point men.
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    Originally Posted by kooldude View Post
    having one great series doesn't make him a top player.
    beating the mavs is something steve nash could never do. just sayin'
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    Originally Posted by Propulsion View Post
    beating the mavs is something steve nash could never do. just sayin'
    Don Nelson owns the Mavs
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    Nash
    Wade
    Lebron
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    No love for Dwight Howard anywhere?

    And no, Baron isn't better than Nash, or Kidd...
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    Originally Posted by Propulsion View Post
    beating the mavs is something steve nash could never do. just sayin'
    Nash have already beaten the Mavs in 2005. just sayin'
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    Originally Posted by BNR View Post
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    garnett
    shaq
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    Originally Posted by kooldude View Post
    Dirk?
    yea, I'd probably replace brand or bosh for Dirk. It's hard to list 20, Howard, Jermaine O'Neal, and Carter could even make the list.
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    Dwight Howard over Amare? NO!
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    Originally Posted by LilScrapper View Post
    Dwight Howard over Amare? NO!
    Gilbert Arenas over T-Mac? Another NO!
    You can make a much better argument for putting Arenas over T-Mac than you can with putting Howard over Amare.. (IMO)
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    Originally Posted by LilScrapper View Post
    Dwight Howard over Amare? NO!
    Gilbert Arenas over T-Mac? Another NO!
    what has t-mac done lately to show he is better than arenas? arenas has been much better over the last two years than the often injured mcgrady

    also dwight howard is doing it all by himself in orlando. stoudemire has nash to help him out
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    Am I the only one that thinks Nash is a little overated? He has so much talent on his team but he hasnt won a title yet and hes a pg so he runs the team.
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    Originally Posted by sohard88 View Post
    Am I the only one that thinks Nash is a little overated? He has so much talent on his team but he hasnt won a title yet and hes a pg so he runs the team.
    2 time mvp and if nash was replaced with any other pg in phoenix, they would take a huge step backwards
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    Originally Posted by Money Shot View Post
    2 time mvp and if nash was replaced with any other pg in phoenix, they would take a huge step backwards
    i dunno about that their style just sets him up for so many assists because they run up and down the court and their games are all high scoring, I know he won 2 mvps in arrow thats why im saying hes over rated. If they gave the mvp's to players that team didnt do so well the mvp would of went to kobe. I think its fair to say kobe is more important to his team than nash.
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    Kobe is a one man team - put him in any team and he is going to own. Take away Kobe from the Lakers, and who stands out? Omar started good, but then got injured. Smush was good at times.

    I love watching Nash play. He creates scenarios which other PG's do not. I am bias though... I'm a Suns follower! ;-)
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    I recall reading that games played without Steve Nash the past 3 years, the Suns went 4-12 or something like that. I mean the lakers with Kobe they are average, barely above average. The suns with nash lineup gives them a very legit shot at a title every year.
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    Originally Posted by LilScrapper View Post
    Dwight Howard over Amare? NO!
    Gilbert Arenas over T-Mac? Another NO!
    howard is a monsterrrr center in the nba...give him another year and he will dominate even more than he is now...his offensive game is a little raw.

    but no i wouldnt put tmac over gilbert
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    Originally Posted by deepthr0at View Post
    I recall reading that games played without Steve Nash the past 3 years, the Suns went 4-12 or something like that. I mean the lakers with Kobe they are average, barely above average. The suns with nash lineup gives them a very legit shot at a title every year.
    Indeed.

    For the suns to win a ring, they need to step up their rebounding. Nearly every time they play the Mavs or Spurs, they get owned on the boards.
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    I Think Nash could be better if he hit the weights, he has like a 13 year olds body and hes 6'4'' or 6'3'' and he never dunks. If i was him I would hit the weights and do a lot of squats because I would be embarrassed doing lay-ups on wide open fastbreaks.
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    Originally Posted by Money Shot View Post
    2 time mvp and if nash was replaced with any other pg in phoenix, they would take a huge step backwards
    key words.
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    Originally Posted by sohard88 View Post
    I Think Nash could be better if he hit the weights, he has like a 13 year olds body and hes 6'4'' or 6'3'' and he never dunks. If i was him I would hit the weights and do a lot of squats because I would be embarrassed doing lay-ups on wide open fastbreaks.
    Nash had his best year last season and shoots over 53% from the field and over 45% from 3pt line. Simply remarkable for a guard. His scoring is absolutely fine.
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    Originally Posted by kooldude View Post
    key words.
    your missing the point, phoenix without nash is just an average-below average team with a low shot at the playoffs, with nash they are a shoe-in to the playoffs and have good shot at winning a title, refer to my post above to their record without nash, don't see why there is all this hate for him, if anything the nba isn't nearly as good as it was in the 90's because there are less guys out there like nash....
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