Europa Sports on ESPN (not good)

[EMISGOD]

Wow...I totally didnt think of the Olympia angle...jeez.

Last year, someone collected some samples for me from the "O" and I saw quite a few that really gave me some serious pause and made me wonder. This industry doesn't belong in the shadows, but some of the more unsavory elements are getting far too brazen for their and the rest of the industry's good...

Like I said elsewhere, this big DEA bust (with more on the way) is the shot across the bow...

[deserusan]

Olympia's this weekend right?

Yes sir. Johnny Law will be chillin' I'm sure

[VaughnTrue]

Olympia's this weekend right?

yeap...



lot of crap is going to go down within the next 7 days.


maybe if we're lucky online retailers will reduce PH prices to rock bottom just to get rid of all of them b4 they go illegal

[leonidas300]

yeap...



lot of crap is going to go down within the next 7 days.


maybe if we're lucky online retailers will reduce PH prices to rock bottom just to get rid of all of them b4 they go illegal

happened the last time.

[VaughnTrue]

happened the last time.

well I wasnt around last time...


this time, I shall take serious advantage.





gotta start saving now

[dmangiarelli]

well I wasnt around last time...


this time, I shall take serious advantage.





gotta start saving now

I'm ready... better bill some customers!

[Draugar]

Obviously PH products will take a hit from this, but what would the odds be of the supplements like Hyperdrol getting effected by this? I'm contemplating rather or not to stock up on it right now.

[Elliptical Envy]

Wow, the heat is coming !

The **** is hitting the fan now.

[-=BigSmith=-]

Obviously PH products will take a hit from this, but what would the odds be of the supplements like Hyperdrol getting effected by this? I'm contemplating rather or not to stock up on it right now.

I don't think this will effect it. Govt is aware of the ingredient in HD and we have submitted our case on why we think it is compliant. If it comes back a no go then at that time the formula will change. Could be tomorrow could be next year. Kind of like Adrenosterone we are in limbo.

[Draugar]

I don't think this will effect it. Govt is aware of the ingredient in HD and we have submitted our case on why we think it is compliant. If it comes back a no go then at that time the formula will change. Could be tomorrow could be next year.

Great, that's a relief since it's by far my favorite supplement to cycle on a bulk. Thanks.

[PrisonerDilemma]

Oh, god. Does this mean I have to hope the half-life of these supps are at least a few years so that I can still use them after 21+? -___-

[Mr. Aries]

Oh, god. Does this mean I have to hope the half-life of these supps are at least a few years so that I can still use them after 21+? -___-

half life?

[PrisonerDilemma]

Or expiration date--rather

I'm taking too many Chem GEs for my Physio/Neuro minor =(

[Bloute]

Oh, god. Does this mean I have to hope the half-life of these supps are at least a few years so that I can still use them after 21+? -___-

half life?

Lol !

[Mr. Aries]

Or expiration date--rather

I'm taking too many Chem GEs for my Physio/Neuro minor =(

half life is a very regular term used here.. I wasn't confused about it's meaning. I'm confused about your usage of this word in this instance.

[Bloute]

Or expiration date--rather

I'm taking too many Chem GEs for my Physio/Neuro minor =(

Shelf-life !

[PrisonerDilemma]

Yeah--I wasn't trying to define it. I used the wrong term since it isn't diminishing due to radioactive decay.

I guess I just had nuclear elements in my mind while I made that post.

NUKE THE DEA

[Lowerthefever]

Looks like all you juiceboxes are gonna have to go natural... LOL

[dontknowaboutme]

Looks like all you juiceboxes are gonna have to go natural... LOL

Yeah, however, this could mean crackdowns on the entire industry. For natural people such as myself that could cause problems.

[Mr.Farang]

This was a related article when talking about the latest DEA raids.

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To catch a dealer.

Europa Sports Products is a familiar name in the supplements world. The Charlotte, N.C., wholesaler sponsors exhibits at bodybuilding shows like the Arnold Classic and stocks shelves in Gold's Gyms and GNC stores nationwide. But as a recent investigation by The Magazine found, it also keeps online pharmacies well-supplied with designer steroids.

Acting on a tip, we posed as the founders of a new supplements company -- creating the website ProGymGear.com to back our ruse -- to see exactly what Europa offers. When we informed a sales rep by e-mail that we were "targeting the hard-core gym customer," he didn't ask for a business license -- or any other ID, for that matter. He went right into a pitch for Bulk Tabs, a product of Florida's IDS Sports. Explaining that the supplement is "highly androgenic," he wrote that it is made from "real-deal ingredients" and, with regard to drug tests, that it would "come out false."

We paid $1,000 for four boxes of Bulk Tabs and two other IDS offerings: Mass Tabs and Sostonol. When we asked for something "similar to Superdrol," a drug whose sale the FDA prohibited in 2006, the rep suggested AnEvol, by Evolution Labs of Florida. "It is [the] identical formula to Superdrol," he wrote. "People are going to go ape s over this."

The package arrived by regular mail to a post office box we'd set up, and we promptly sent off samples to Aegis Sciences, a Nashville lab that does the drug testing for the WWE. In a standard analysis for 11 known steroid compounds, everything tested negative.

Was the stuff really drug-free or just able to fool a test, as advertised? That was a question for Don Catlin, the head of LA's Anti-Doping Research Institute. Catlin's deeper analysis showed that one of Sostonol's many-lettered ingredients is chemical code for Madol, a powerful designer steroid originally developed by BALCO chemist Patrick Arnold. Another, Oral Turinabol, was a favorite of the old East German machine. "This wasn't done by someone with a high school degree," Catlin concluded. "Whoever made it knew what he was doing." An industry source to whom the label was shown went even further: "No one is making this stuff in the U.S. The only place you can get it is China."

In fact, the owner of IDS, Nicol Worrell, did acknowledge in a phone interview that some of his ingredients come from China. But when asked specifically about Sostonol, he retreated, calling it "a small part of our business," before deferring to the manufacturing plant he claimed to contract with. "They handle all of our ingredients," he said.

Europa's salesman was as good as his word about AnEvol, though. Catlin found it to be directly related to Superdrol and to contain the prohibited synthetic steroid methasterone. A letter from us asking for comment -- sent by FedEx -- to the manufacturer's address on the box went unreturned.

Eric Hillman, Europa's CEO, didn't return a message seeking comment about our findings either. But he might be happy to know his reps are on top of things. Our contact continues to e-mail us about placing our next order.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=3033682

Damn!!! That's some un-****ing-believable.

That would mean longer time for all my online parcels to come ontime for sure.

****!



Like Sir EM said, the thought is scary. Imagine a major bust on client lists at the Olympia. I can't put myself to imagine, simply too scary.

It will tarnish bodybuilding imagine for the whole world. It might also mean more difficult to order online as our country already monitor us even more so without us importing PH/PS.

[Al Shades]

God, these idiots need to fall off a cliff.

Enough of this BS, legalize the **** already. We've got cops and military injecting.

[Viperspit]

Wow, am I surprised to read that story. Over zealous Sales guy?? I think there will be some organizational changes at Europa after this one. (hopefully some training as well).

[ElMariachi]

All I can say is that we did a full recall with recall advertisements. If you have AX superdrol we offer a trade in program for anything we have. You send it to us, we send you whatever you want from our current lineup, then its gets sent in for official destruction. You can find more info on our forum or call us.

I found it hard to believe that iForce re-released it. Not a smart move at all. (No bash to that company, just my opinion)

EXACTLY. Why would a more decent sized company do something stupid like that? I think that stuff is better left to the little shell companies out there.

[Skigazzi]

Wow, am I surprised to read that story. Over zealous Sales guy?? I think there will be some organizational changes at Europa after this one. (hopefully some training as well).

I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the meeting right now at Europa.

[UHCougar05]

**** **** **** ****!

[ZDub212]

IDS...bringing down the industry...just like I said.

[ElMariachi]

IDS...bringing down the industry...just like I said.

LOL....yep. I've never understood why large distributors like Europa get in bed with these products. They can sustain themselves just fine without them, and be a hell of a lot safer for it, same with BOSS, Lonestar and some of the other mega-distributors.

[Lonny]

At least it was IDS that this happened to.

They have always been a joke of a company.

[DRP7]

IDS...bringing down the industry...just like I said.

Is IDS associated with IBE, perhaps?

[Zachattack43]

Is IDS associated with IBE, perhaps?

no