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Old 09-25-2007, 03:54 PM   #1
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low carb diet is useless ?

low carb diet for losing fat is useless...?? im getting the carbs from veggies + 20 carbs from my whey protein...im wasting my time?
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:09 PM   #2
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low carb diet is best for loosing weight
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Old 09-25-2007, 05:13 PM   #3
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low carb diet is best for loosing weight
yes, keto/low carb really works see my profile. I highly recommend it!
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i'm gonna try Keto in the winter before i hit up the beaches down south.
only seen good results, if people can stick with it.

if you want veggie goodness without the carbs, take VegeGreens.
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My aunt has lost 20 lb in 2 months doing the whole low carb thing.
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How the hell are you getting 20G carbs from your whey protein??
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How the hell are you getting 20G carbs from your whey protein??
I've found a few "cheaper" brands out there that are higher in carbs, anywhere from 5g-20g carbs a scoop. Typically find them at your local overpriced healthfood store.

As for lowcarb, these diets are what you make of it. If you tough it out, stay motivated and work hard then they will work for you. Did for me, but it sure as hell wasn't easy. Carb withdrawal never went away when I was on Keto, made for a few bad days during the week.

Read up on some low-carb diet articles, plan your diet out and pace yourself.
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oh yes and one more thing, I have read that you shouldn't limit yourselves veggies on a low carb plan, even though they are full of em.

you should read this article, which I personally look at as my own bible to weightloss

http://www.t-nation.com/portal_inclu...-training.html
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there are lots of low-carb diets out there with all varying degrees of carb intake. But generally, most greens aren't counted and if they are, then it's just net carbs which are total carbs minus fibre.
Keto works for me and to me it's not a diet. just a lifestyle.
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How the hell are you getting 20G carbs from your whey protein??
4-5 scoops a day I guess.

Low carbs are very effective as long as u introduce frequent carbs refeeds.
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I only take in 50g of starchy carbohydrates a day (pre wo), rest of carbs are Trace and Green beans.

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Low Carb Diet

What you guys eat when you are on low Carbs Diet during the whole day?
Breakfast, Snacks, Launch, and Dinner?
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I only take in 50g of starchy carbohydrates a day (pre wo), rest of carbs are Trace and Green beans.

It works.
Damn, I take in 300 grams of starchy carbs in the form of Oats a day. That's not including the rest of the fruit, veggie, brown rice carbs either.
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lol nono! ... 5 scoops = 120 grams of protein & 20 of carbs! :P..thats what i mean
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Damn, I take in 300 grams of starchy carbs in the form of Oats a day. That's not including the rest of the fruit, veggie, brown rice carbs either.
lol..but I'm in a hurry to lose ATLEAST 2 pounds a week..looking to hit 2.5 actually.

I usually would do it slower, with more calories, but I really gotta lose this weight right now before vacation.
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low carb diet for losing fat is useless...?? im getting the carbs from veggies + 20 carbs from my whey protein...im wasting my time?
Not useless, just not needed. Anyone can lose weight with a balanced diet. Those who dont have the patience to get a balanced diet right turn to keto/low carb and deprive themselves of carbs, which aid in repairing and building muscle.
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Low carb diets are stupid.
Carb Cycling diets are smart.

You need carbohydrates. plain and simple, not only for energy but your CNS needas carbohydrates. Ever have a workout where afterwords you kinda dizzy ? About to faint ? Having a little trouble walking down the stairs, thats becuase your glycogen stores are used, and welcome to the world of catabolism.

You need carbs, do carbohydrate cycling, but anyone suggesting going prolong periods of very low carbohydrates ( less then 120g a day) does not know what their talking about.
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Low carb diets are stupid.
Carb Cycling diets are smart.

You need carbohydrates. plain and simple, not only for energy but your CNS needas carbohydrates. Ever have a workout where afterwords you kinda dizzy ? About to faint ? Having a little trouble walking down the stairs, thats becuase your glycogen stores are used, and welcome to the world of catabolism.

You need carbs, do carbohydrate cycling, but anyone suggesting going prolong periods of very low carbohydrates ( less then 120g a day) does not know what their talking about.
x2- also, your body will adjust to a static diet and your fat burning and metabilism will slow down. Cyling carbs changes the inputs so your body doesn't get used what your giving it.
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You need carbs, do carbohydrate cycling, but anyone suggesting going prolong periods of very low carbohydrates ( less then 120g a day) does not know what their talking about.
Does Vince Gironda not know what he's talking about?
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low carb diet useless? to me yes. is it effective? for some people yes. ive read many articles stating that the weight you lose from a low carb diet is water at first and as soon as you eat carbs again, you put the weight back on. as far as my experiences go, a low carb diet to me is idiotic. i felt like **** not eating barely any carbs at all. not to mention, i sure as hell wouldnt have the energy to lift. i would never endorse a diet that advocates eating a lot of fat (specifically saturated fat, the kind that clogs your arteries eventually and might give you potential heart problems). these type of diets advocate eating foods that are not good for your body and they slam foods that are really good for our body and have a lot of important nutrients like fruit and oatmeal. this kinda diet is not good for long term cuz eventually youll give ion and eat carbs, its only a matter of time. another thing ill never understand is how people make carbs to be the enemy and say carbs are the reason they get fat. lets keep this simple, calories in vs. calories out.
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Does Vince Gironda not know what he's talking about?
He's a freak, like the other genetically gifted phenomenons.

Your suggesting going below 120g of carbohydrates a day ? for a pro long period ? hahahah please, post a picture of yourself, I want to see my ideal physic Ill one day attain following your advice !!!!!
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He's a freak, like the other genetically gifted phenomenons.

Your suggesting going below 120g of carbohydrates a day ? for a pro long period ? hahahah please, post a picture of yourself, I want to see my ideal physic Ill one day attain following your advice !!!!!

What's a long period? And does being a "genetically gifted phenomenon" somehow destroy Vince's credibility?

I can't post a picture of my "physic" by the way
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He's a freak, like the other genetically gifted phenomenons.

Your suggesting going below 120g of carbohydrates a day ? for a pro long period ? hahahah please, post a picture of yourself, I want to see my ideal physic Ill one day attain following your advice !!!!!
It's a wonder if you have any friends in real life... That would be quite the debate.
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Not useless at all. Low carb is useless for me, but that is because I hate eating less than 200g carbs a day, and even 200 is what I consider low carb for me.

Keto is great for fat loss.
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low carb diet useless? to me yes. is it effective? for some people yes. ive read many articles stating that the weight you lose from a low carb diet is water at first and as soon as you eat carbs again, you put the weight back on. as far as my experiences go, a low carb diet to me is idiotic. i felt like **** not eating barely any carbs at all. not to mention, i sure as hell wouldnt have the energy to lift. i would never endorse a diet that advocates eating a lot of fat (specifically saturated fat, the kind that clogs your arteries eventually and might give you potential heart problems). these type of diets advocate eating foods that are not good for your body and they slam foods that are really good for our body and have a lot of important nutrients like fruit and oatmeal. this kinda diet is not good for long term cuz eventually youll give ion and eat carbs, its only a matter of time. another thing ill never understand is how people make carbs to be the enemy and say carbs are the reason they get fat. lets keep this simple, calories in vs. calories out.
LOL

EWWW FRUIT YUCK I HATE IT OATS SUCK IF YOU EAT OATS YOU'RE A LOOOOOSER.

Oh hai, just a keto-er here to slam your unhealthy carbs.

Oh wait, that's total BS. I love oats and fruit and eat them on the weekends, sometimes during the week (GASP yes I can eat berries) and sometimes post WO.
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EWWW FRUIT YUCK I HATE IT OATS SUCK IF YOU EAT OATS YOU'RE A LOOOOOSER.

Oh hai, just a keto-er here to slam your unhealthy carbs.

Oh wait, that's total BS. I love oats and fruit and eat them on the weekends, sometimes during the week (GASP yes I can eat berries) and sometimes post WO.
Get real dude.
One thing you have to admit, although weight loss (fat loss) is much easier with a low-carb diet, muscle gain is insanely more difficult.
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Old 09-26-2007, 03:43 PM   #27
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Well I totally agree with cutting out sugars , such as those cheap wpc which contains tons of milk sugars.
Cutting sugars is one thing. Cutting carbs out all together for someone who is active (workouts + cardio) is probably not the way to go
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If you can have the same intense workouts as you can without so much carbs, you can do well on a low carb diet.

I never really NEED carbs to grow, or anything, I grow without them, but my workouts suffocate without carbs, to the point where I'm dumbbell shoulder pressing 30's. Amazing how 50g of oatmeal 90 minutes preworkout boosts that weight up all the way to 45's 50's.
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LOL

EWWW FRUIT YUCK I HATE IT OATS SUCK IF YOU EAT OATS YOU'RE A LOOOOOSER.

Oh hai, just a keto-er here to slam your unhealthy carbs.

Oh wait, that's total BS. I love oats and fruit and eat them on the weekends, sometimes during the week (GASP yes I can eat berries) and sometimes post WO.
Get real dude.
thats my opinion girl, you get real. id take fruits and oats over saturated fats any day. a high fat diet has also been linked to certain cancers and diseases. i just gave my reason why i think low carb diets are useless. if some people like them, nothing wrong with that. i wont deprive myself from anything that is healthy whether if its a carb or not.

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I made a mistake of going low-carbs for over 4 weeks (less than 75). Once I got back to normal of 150-175gm, my body started to store more of fat at my previous maintenance calories. arggh! Since then, I agree low-carb works, but it doesn't works for me because of what happened post low-carb diet.

I prefer 125-175gms of carbs for myself, no less, no more!
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