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09-25-2007, 01:34 PM
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So I was doing a few cheat curls today
and the personal trainer comes over and tells me that my form is bad and I'm going to slip a disc. So I told him I was just cheating the last few reps and it was intentional. And so he said the same thing again. At which point I felt like killing him. Should I have done so or would that be over-reacting?
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09-25-2007, 01:36 PM
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ur in the misc, u should have told him to gtfo there
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09-25-2007, 01:36 PM
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Its just like the guy who was half my size and told me I should use the Machines for bench because then I dont have to use proper form.
I could have slapped him.
just tell him " Go away, Im a paying member and your bothering me"
Hell get the idea.
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09-25-2007, 01:37 PM
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You would be overreacting if you didn't kill him
jus saying
yes homo
trainer that is
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09-25-2007, 01:37 PM
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what is the point of 'cheat curls'. why don't you just use a bit lighter weight with proper form..surely that would be better?
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09-25-2007, 01:38 PM
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There is a guy at my gym that uses the Ez bar and puts two 45's on each side. He throws the weight all over the place and "curls" it for maybe 6 reps. See now thats the time when you should step in and say, hey pal your just going to **** yourself up but when its intentional. Thats a different story.
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09-25-2007, 01:38 PM
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Lol Wut?
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Then everyone would have said that you were juicing and roids made you flip out
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09-25-2007, 01:38 PM
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Haha one time this skinny ass trainer was giving me this ****ing gay smirk that would piss anyone off because i said to one of my friends I had a baconator before I came cause I had to try it.
It was like a look of "haha you idiot you have no idea what youre doing in the gym.." and the guy was like 6'0 140 and a trainer...
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09-25-2007, 01:39 PM
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And why do all personal trainers have such $hit physiques, yet claim to know everything? You can't even do good mornings without a lecture about how you're "going to slip a disc, etc. yadda yaddda..."
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Finally back into a routine, aiming for 180-185 lbs @ 10% by year-end.
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09-25-2007, 01:40 PM
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o'rly?
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Killing him? A little excessive.
"When I want a manlets advice, I'll look down, give you a nod and ignore what you say".
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09-25-2007, 01:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hiphophead
what is the point of 'cheat curls'. why don't you just use a bit lighter weight with proper form..surely that would be better?
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I did 5-6 reps with strict form, then I cheated a couple more. That was it. It really wasn't that crazy...
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Finally back into a routine, aiming for 180-185 lbs @ 10% by year-end.
22 June 08: 167 @ 12%.
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09-25-2007, 01:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kameldude
and the personal trainer comes over and tells me that my form is bad and I'm going to slip a disc. So I told him I was just cheating the last few reps and it was intentional. And so he said the same thing again. At which point I felt like killing him. Should I have done so or would that be over-reacting?
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Well, before I jump to agree with you I'd have to understand your defintion of "cheat curls." I've seen some horrendous curling in my day.
To me, a cheat curl would be bowing out your elbows with a slight backward lean (even that is avoided if you have a spotter).
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Originally Posted by hiphophead
what is the point of 'cheat curls'. why don't you just use a bit lighter weight with proper form..surely that would be better?
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Depends...like any excersise, it's good to let your muscles feel a heavier weight.
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09-25-2007, 01:45 PM
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What is wrong with cheating?
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09-25-2007, 01:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kameldude
And why do all personal trainers have such $hit physiques, yet claim to know everything? You can't even do good mornings without a lecture about how you're "going to slip a disc, etc. yadda yaddda..."
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In their defense.
Good Mornings are a relatively dangerous lift if performed incorrectly.
The average person who goes to the gym once a week and does a full body workout just to "stay in shape" has no business doing them.
That said, people who know what they are doing have little to fear.
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09-25-2007, 01:45 PM
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I cheat the last 2 or so reps.
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11-06-2007, 05:59 AM
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i hate these trainers....big time bastards...
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11-06-2007, 06:02 AM
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My favourite is when people use the EZ bar in the squat rack. They grunt and moan, yell and sweat, I'm like "excuse me? Could I use the squat rack?" and they shoot me a wtf look.
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11-06-2007, 06:05 AM
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Sounds like the trainer damaged your ego.
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11-06-2007, 06:33 AM
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It woulda been good if you had a pic of arnold cheat curling to show him.
Or even a video of it...
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11-06-2007, 06:54 AM
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Im a PT and i officially approve you to do cheat curls.
There, feel better now? 
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11-06-2007, 07:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kameldude
and the personal trainer comes over and tells me that my form is bad and I'm going to slip a disc. So I told him I was just cheating the last few reps and it was intentional. And so he said the same thing again. At which point I felt like killing him. Should I have done so or would that be over-reacting?
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chain gym or independent? just curious
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11-06-2007, 07:57 AM
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Just look at him and say, "I'm putting you in charge of sex and music. That means that if I want your f*cking advice, I'll whistle."
Hope this helps.
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11-06-2007, 07:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kameldude
and the personal trainer comes over and tells me that my form is bad and I'm going to slip a disc. So I told him I was just cheating the last few reps and it was intentional. And so he said the same thing again. At which point I felt like killing him. Should I have done so or would that be over-reacting?
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Let me guess, Fitness First?
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11-06-2007, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by sirnext
Let me guess, Fitness First?
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would be ironic if it was. most of the time I can't even find a trainer to give me a spot or help me on some equipment or something 
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11-06-2007, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by MissThing
would be ironic if it was. most of the time I can't even find a trainer to give me a spot or help me on some equipment or something |
I had to wait for a PT last week to get out of my squat rack because he was teaching someone... yep, curls. No wonder people use the rack, if that's what the PT is teaching them.
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11-06-2007, 03:22 PM
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wow strong september
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When im not hungry I eat. When Im tired I train. When I feel like giving up I push harder.
No such thing as "All natural" There's natural and there's AAS users.
If you put "I rep back" in your sig you are a rep begging homo.
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11-13-2007, 06:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hiphophead
what is the point of 'cheat curls'. why don't you just use a bit lighter weight with proper form..surely that would be better?
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Like the OP reiterated already, he wasn't cheating to attain a new personal best, but rather, to continue the set. This is a much better use, obviously.
While using a lighter weight would work in this instance too (you'd call it a drop set), the problem with that is that while you set it down and take the plates off to lesson it to something you can use, you lose tension in the muscle and it becomes more aerobic so the fast-twitch fibres are not as recruited by necessity anymore. It also just saves time.
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11-13-2007, 07:04 AM
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You need to calm down man. Just tell the guy thanks and continue doing what you were doing.
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11-13-2007, 07:09 AM
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I just clean the weight on cheat curls and then do a slow negative.
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11-13-2007, 07:16 AM
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i dont know where you guys are finding your personal trainers, but the one i had was huge...and he would kill me in the gym...worst lift was a ****in power clean then press, then bring down behind the head, then squat, then press again, then return.....that was 1
and we were doin like 10, 12, 14, 8
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