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    Israel to Syria: Use Chemical Weapons against us and we'll "wipe you off the map"

    That's not an Ahmadinejad "wiped off the map". They're talking about a full nuclear response from Israel's triad of nuclear capability: land, sea, and air.

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    Israel to Syria: Use chem weapons & we'll wipe you off map

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    BY MATTHEW KALMAN in Jerusalem and BILL HUTCHINSON in New York
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    Israeli officials vowed to wipe Syria off the map if it is attacked with chemical weapons like one that reportedly exploded in July at a secret Syrian base staffed with Iranian engineers.

    Politicians in Israel said yesterday they were not picking a fight with their neighbor, but pledged to forcefully retaliate if chemical warheads come screaming across its shared border.

    "We will not attack them first. But if they ever use these weapons against Israel, then we must be clear ? it will be the end of this evil and brutal dictatorship," Yuval Steinitz, a right-wing member of the Israeli parliament, told the Daily News yesterday.

    Sparking shock waves across the Middle East was a report in Jane's Defence Weekly about an accidental explosion at a top secret Syrian base in July.

    Citing Syrian intelligence sources, the report claimed a team of Iranian and Syrian engineers were killed July 26 while trying to arm a Scud-C missile with a mustard gas warhead.

    Syrian official news agency, SANA, reported that least 15 Syrian military personnel had been "martyred" and 50 others injured in the blast near the northern city of Aleppo on the Turkish border. It claimed the early morning explosion was caused by the high temperatures.

    The SANA report mentioned nothing of Iranian personnel killed in the mishap.

    Jane's said dozens of Iranian workers were among those who died when a fire in the missile's engine triggered the explosion and release of a toxic cloud of lethal chemical agents banned under international law.

    U.S. intelligence sources played down the report saying they've seen no credible evidence chemical weapons were involved in the Syrian accident.
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    Awfully coincidental that it was about the time when the IAF with shaldag shooters attacked a syrian target huh?

    F'ck them - let em burn. Anyone who espouses the complete destruction of a people should be granted no mercy.
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    Originally Posted by bamagirl
    Anyone who espouses the complete destruction of a people should be granted no mercy.
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    Originally Posted by bamagirl View Post
    Awfully coincidental that it was about the time when the IAF with shaldag shooters attacked a syrian target huh?

    F'ck them - let em burn. Anyone who espouses the complete destruction of a people should be granted no mercy.
    Do you find it a tad strange that, in regards to the Iran/Syria chemical weapons accident, it was *mustard gas* they were trying to load up?

    The death toll was awfully high for something like mustard. With advances in modern medical technology, mustard is not a particularly lethal chemical agent. Debilitating and terrible, but not lethal. We also haven't heard of the # of wounded. With something like mustard, there would be a huge # of wounded, very few killed. Something doesn't click for me here.
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    Originally Posted by NuggzTheNinja View Post
    Do you find it a tad strange that, in regards to the Iran/Syria chemical weapons accident, it was *mustard gas* they were trying to load up?

    The death toll was awfully high for something like mustard. With advances in modern medical technology, mustard is not a particularly lethal chemical agent. Debilitating and terrible, but not lethal. We also haven't heard of the # of wounded. With something like mustard, there would be a huge # of wounded, very few killed. Something doesn't click for me here.
    Sarin and VX was we heard to begin with - I'm not buying that a 90 year old chemical component was being used. How the hell would they have kept it alive?
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    F'ck them they should be wiped away if they want to be ugly anyway.
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    15 Syrian military personnel had been 'martyred'. If that was an official statement made by Syria and/or Iran, that should leave no doubt as to the intentions of these madmen.
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    Originally Posted by bamagirl View Post
    F'ck them they should be wiped away if they want to be ugly anyway.
    yes, it's a good thing leaders of Muslim countries would never threaten to wipe Israel off the map.

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    Nuggz,

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    Originally Posted by Regice View Post
    Nuggz,

    How's Yom Kippur going?
    Not bad, how's yours?
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    Originally Posted by bamagirl View Post
    Sarin and VX was we heard to begin with - I'm not buying that a 90 year old chemical component was being used. How the hell would they have kept it alive?
    Mustard is far more persistent than any organophosphate, and can remain active even in soil for years.

    A lot of countries have been playing with it, as it's relatively easy to make, and incredibly useful in a military environment: it causes lots and lots of horribly injured casualties which require lots of care, and it tends to spare lives.

    As recently as the early 90's, countries have been experimenting with "dusty" agents, one of them dusty mustard, which has increased effects against troops in MOPP gear, quicker onset of effects, better dispersion, and presumably a longer shelf life.

    I wouldn't be surprised if they are actively producing lots and lots of mustard, just that it seems weird that sources would even consider it being a factor in this incident unless the casualties were caused by an explosion and not the agent itself.
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    Blah Israel cant do **** without U.Ss help we all know that, been there done that. whats next ?
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    Originally Posted by Lucky_ROA View Post
    Blah Israel cant do **** without U.Ss help we all know that, been there done that. whats next ?
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    So it alright when Israel says it but its a Nazi holocaust when Iran does.

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    I think Syra wipe off Isreal because Isreal gets the chance to.
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    I think Syra wipe off Isreal because Isreal gets the chance to.
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    I wish they would do it just to do it.
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    If anyoen is completely idiotic on this thread, like maybe saying that Israel needs US help, I hope you do know that Israel has it's own nuclear capabilities.
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    A nuclear response to an attack with chemical weapons is perfectly legitimate.
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    Israeli girls are hot and we cannot allow them to be destroyed.

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    Why can't these damn countries just get along? Live and let live? I'm sure Syria can do something else with their time and money beside try to destroy Israel. Same can be said of Iran and co. Just worry about your own country and advancing your technology etc. Is this all because of religion and history?
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    Originally Posted by Evolution_Z View Post
    So it alright when Israel says it but its a Nazi holocaust when Iran does.

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    Blah Israel cant do **** without U.Ss help we all know that, been there done that. whats next ?
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    Originally Posted by nsu View Post
    Agreed.

    You guys couldn't do **** without the US.
    Ha! Israel has its own nuclear weapons stockpile and delivery systems. If it decides to Nuke Syria there isn't a thing the US can do about it.
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    Originally Posted by Evolution_Z View Post
    So it alright when Israel says it but its a Nazi holocaust when Iran does.

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    Impressive, your defending one nation using Chem/Bio weapons against another nations population, and yet your find the need to sit on your throne and tell the world they have no right to destroy those who do it, and yep thats A OK, just so long as it's Jews that are on the receiving end, and not your precious buddies running Iran.

    For those of you who like Evolution_Z who seem to know NOTHING of world history, it has been long accepted, and KNOWN to anyone actually paying attention that use of Chem/Bio weapons against another nation would result in a response of everything in their arsenal.. and RIGHTFULLY SO... it has been this way since the end of WORLD WAR 1 since you have obviously missed every world history class ever given to you.

    Evolution_Z we need to ship your arse to Israel and let you sit out a couple of rocket attacks, you could sit there and wonder are they Bio? are they Chem? what type? is your gas mask sealed? IF YOU HAVE ONE, are the filters in good working condition? what happens when you get to sit there and watch others who's masks are not in good condition die? .. or are the rockets just a standard warhead?.. your statement is beyond short sighted stupidity.

    BTW, where is your whiny crap when the terrorist have been using Chem weapons against the civilians in Iraq? or how about when they just drag a kid from a house screaming and crying, then douse him/her with gas and set them on fire? care to tell us about how either of those are ok, and nothing should be done about it.. interesting people you choose to defend..
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    Originally Posted by Nagalfar View Post
    Impressive, your defending one nation using Chem/Bio weapons against another nations population, and yet your find the need to sit on your throne and tell the world they have no right to destroy those who do it, and yep thats A OK, just so long as it's Jews that are on the receiving end, and not your precious buddies running Iran.
    You defend a nation which was build on the expense of another nation. It killed and massacred hundreds of thousands.......But of course the Palestinians never existed

    I guess its alright to wipe muslims off the map but we should not dare and say that gas chambers were a hoax By the way we all know that jews are the only people who suffered in this world.

    For those of you who like Evolution_Z who seem to know NOTHING of world history, it has been long accepted, and KNOWN to anyone actually paying attention that use of Chem/Bio weapons against another nation would result in a response of everything in their arsenal.. and RIGHTFULLY SO... it has been this way since the end of WORLD WAR 1 since you have obviously missed every world history class ever given to you.
    I suggest we ship your ass to Lebanon and keep you wondering when Israel will bomb your house, destroy your schools, hospitals and massacre a whole village..... OOOPS I forgot .....they protect Hezbollah which gives the zionist the right to massacre their children...... The Zionist always have an excuse

    BTW, where is your whiny crap when the terrorist have been using Chem weapons against the civilians in Iraq? or how about when they just drag a kid from a house screaming and crying, then douse him/her with gas and set them on fire? care to tell us about how either of those are ok, and nothing should be done about it.. interesting people you choose to defend..
    Where was your whiney ass when Israel massacred palestinians in Deir Yassin, Beit Hanoon, Sabra and Shatila, Qana 1 and Qana 2??????

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    Israel is afraid to nuke Syria. Believe this.

    If they nuked us EVERYONE around Israel would attack ASAP. All the nations Saudi Arabia, Iran it would be a free for for all targeted against Israel. Even the African Muslim nations would take part aswell.

    THe people of the region, it is true are seperated by borders, but all share a common faith, language and history. It would be suicide for Israel.

    No one would even give a thought about Israels big brother America. They would all rush in anger.

    That is the truth..
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    Blah Israel cant do **** without U.Ss help we all know that, been there done that. whats next ?
    Israel possesses the full nuclear triad: Submarines, air, and land-based ballistic missiles.

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    Originally Posted by okasha View Post
    Israel is afraid to nuke Syria. Believe this.

    If they nuked us EVERYONE around Israel would attack ASAP. All the nations Saudi Arabia, Iran it would be a free for for all targeted against Israel. Even the African Muslim nations would take part aswell.

    THe people of the region, it is true are seperated by borders, but all share a common faith, language and history. It would be suicide for Israel.

    No one would even give a thought about Israels big brother America. They would all rush in anger.

    That is the truth..


    Because Israel has nobody in the area backing them up.
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