What do you think classifies someone as a white person? Is it anyone of European heritage (provided they're not descended from non-European immigrants), or is it *any* Caucasian person?
For example, look at Sicilians. Some of these people are naturally brown for f-ck's sake. What makes them white? Facial features? Big f-cking deal. I've seen Middle Eastern people who look IRISH and they're not considered white by anyone (alot of Syrians look Nordic or very white).
So is white based on national origin, facial features, a combination, or something else?
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09-23-2007, 11:01 PM #1
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Define the term: "white people"
If you don't like what I have to say, you should probably move to Israel.
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09-23-2007, 11:07 PM #2
I think what most people would call "white" would exclude Middle Easterners... but really, whites are the biggest mutts of all, and I have no idea how we can really place a cut-off point in race. I look white, yet I can legally be documented as native (Cherokee.) It all gets even more meaningless the longer you think about it.
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09-23-2007, 11:11 PM #3
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Why? Considering that alot of folks consider Mediterranean Europeans (especially Italians) as white, it makes no sense to exclude lighter skinned, lighter haired Middle Easterners.
but really, whites are the biggest mutts of all,
and I have no idea how we can really place a cut-off point in race. I look white, yet I can legally be documented as native (Cherokee.) It all gets even more meaningless the longer you think about it.If you don't like what I have to say, you should probably move to Israel.
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09-23-2007, 11:26 PM #4If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever.
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09-23-2007, 11:28 PM #5
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09-23-2007, 11:34 PM #6
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I don't really have anything productive to add to the thread but man did I get shafted on the whole ethnic identity thing. I am very Jewish (mostly Ashkenazi with some Mizrahi) with only a bit of non-Semitic lineage. Even so, I am a basic, run of the mill cracker. I have brown/dark brown hair with blue eyes (one is actually not blue because my eye is lazy) and my skin is pale and I don't have Jewhair. It sucks.
(then again, not having a Jewfro is kind of a good thing)
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WHAT AM I R&P.
BTW intellectually deciding these things aside, I confess that my innate predisposition is to think of Europeans as whites. Regardless of its truth of nontruth, I find myself gravitating that way without thinking.6'2", 191 lbs
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09-23-2007, 11:36 PM #7
No, not really, I'm just guessing at what most people think of as being "white."
How so?
Pics?
I actually have some pics that sorta show what i look like in my avatars, but I have no idea if people can get to those through my bodyspace or not.
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09-23-2007, 11:39 PM #8
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09-23-2007, 11:42 PM #9
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I'm trying so hard to picture a good looking Jewfro. I want to believe it. I am not proud of my shell of distaste... please prove me wrong.
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09-23-2007, 11:59 PM #10
White = white skin, hence WHITE.... Unless you are referring to Aryan? or anglo saxon, which is more specific.
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09-24-2007, 12:05 AM #11
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09-24-2007, 12:06 AM #12The middle of the road, is tryin to find me
I'm standin in the middle of life with my pains behind me
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09-24-2007, 12:07 AM #13
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09-24-2007, 12:08 AM #15
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Open the message > right click the embedded picture/attachment > click "save to/"save link as" > choose 'My Pictures' as destination.
Then upload them to any webhost.
Alternatively, you could just email them to me and I'll host them; Organichu@gmail.com6'2", 191 lbs
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09-24-2007, 12:09 AM #16
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09-24-2007, 12:11 AM #17
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09-24-2007, 12:18 AM #18
Yeah, um, everytime I try to save that **** it always comes up as "No Preview" on My Pictures folder. What gives?
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I'm standin in the middle of life with my pains behind me
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09-24-2007, 12:20 AM #19
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09-24-2007, 12:22 AM #20
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09-24-2007, 12:23 AM #21
dunno, don't really care. i only use "white" and "black" when i get tired of typing "lighter skinned/darker skinned," "african," caucasion," and **** like that. "white" and "black" are such vague, unscientific terms. we're all from africa, originally, so when exactly do you cut off your heritage as an "african american" or "african australian," or what have you? there's really no point to all of it, IMO.
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09-24-2007, 12:26 AM #22
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09-24-2007, 12:27 AM #23Member of the Skeleton Crew
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09-24-2007, 12:28 AM #24
A small thumb of my 'fro
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09-24-2007, 12:29 AM #25
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Hah, I retract my disparaging. Were I in possession of vaginal lips, they'd be flapping right about now.
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09-24-2007, 12:29 AM #26
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09-24-2007, 12:32 AM #27
Pork is the white man, and the white man is pork.
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09-24-2007, 12:36 AM #28
According to afrocentrists caucasian = white.
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09-24-2007, 12:37 AM #29
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09-24-2007, 01:18 AM #30
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If you're really "white" you can trace your ancestry back to England! LMAO If you're German, Italian, French or whatever...... well then white becomes suspect! Don't even mention Spain. Rasca un espanol y sangra un judio! All I can say is if you can't talk politics over coffee in Coyoacan then you've never really lived! Hipodromo Condesa rocks!
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