How to stop hating women?

[azakdan2682]

I have this problem. I pretty much always disliked women...other than how they look/sex etc. I probably have the worst luck as far as personality/character with the girls I get. I always end up with bad girls. Users/manipulators/cheaters/attention whores. Not only that but I just see today how bad most women are when it comes to cheating and using guys for money and everything else. I want to have a better outlook. I remain friendly to them and hook up with, but when it comes to relations I hate dealing with all the BS. Like its gotten to a point where I just assume any women I met is a bad person and have to be super careful to trust them or take srs. How fix?

[EnemyCombatant]

Manipulative women seem to have a keen ability to seek out men that are manipulable. I have had the same problem. Do some self reflection and figure out what your emotional vulnerabilities are so that they stop preying on you.

There are good women out there and I suppose the first step is to accept that they are out there and tell yourself you deserve to be with one.

[pantiespending]

Manipulative women seem to have a keen ability to seek out men that are manipulable. I have had the same problem. Do some self reflection and figure out what your emotional vulnerabilities are so that they stop preying on you.

There are good women out there and I suppose the first step is to accept that they are out there and tell yourself you deserve to be with one.

This op bro.. this.

[InTeNsIFieR]

Manipulative women seem to have a keen ability to seek out men that are manipulable. I have had the same problem. Do some self reflection and figure out what your emotional vulnerabilities are so that they stop preying on you.

There are good women out there and I suppose the first step is to accept that they are out there and tell yourself you deserve to be with one.

This.

[BetaAsPhuck]

Manipulative women seem to have a keen ability to seek out men that are manipulable. I have had the same problem. Do some self reflection and figure out what your emotional vulnerabilities are so that they stop preying on you.

There are good women out there and I suppose the first step is to accept that they are out there and tell yourself you deserve to be with one.

I co-sign this.

Repped.

[Mikkolol]

don't live in america

[HeBrewHammah]

get off the misc, that's a good start.

[Nedo]

You've been around the block enough to know within the first few meetings if their bad news or not. Listen to your gut and be able to disconnect in an instant when something doesn't feel right.

[BetaAsPhuck]

get off the misc, that's a good start.

Seriously... I think that is good advice. For a reluctant misogynist like yourself, I think the misc is poison.

IME common humanity towards women is pretty much nonexistent. And the worst aspects of feminine culture are exaggerated and presented as inherent to females via 'science'.

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Back to the advice given.

I'm not psychologically healthy, but I've come a long way. And there are potential partners and friends who I wouldn't touch with a barge pole now, who I would have been open to befriending and dating in the past.

Based on my own significant change in judgment and attraction, I've concluded that one of the reasons why it can be hard for miscers to find psychologically healthy women is because they aren't psychologically health themselves.

IME people are unaware of the 'red flags' they show which psychologically healthier people generally pick up on during an introductory interaction.

[azakdan2682]

don't live in america

I kind of agree with this, having lived in Europe. But do agree with others that there is something in me that is letting theses types in my life.

[azakdan2682]

get off the misc, that's a good start.

I can agree that it does warp outlook a bit, but is helpful in watching out for red flags and common behaviours/how to deal.

[HeBrewHammah]

Seriously... I think that is good advice. For a reluctant misogynist like yourself, I think the misc is poison.

IME common humanity towards women is pretty much nonexistent. And the worst aspects of feminine culture are exaggerated and presented as inherent to females via 'science'.

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Back to the advice given.

I'm not psychologically healthy, but I've come a long way. And there are potential partners and friends who I wouldn't touch with a barge pole now, who I would have been open to befriending and dating in the past.

Based on my own significant change in judgment and attraction, I've concluded that one of the reasons why it can be hard for miscers to find psychologically healthy women is because they aren't psychologically health themselves.

IME people are unaware of the 'red flags' they show which psychologically healthier people generally pick up on during an introductory interaction.

I have said this exact thing countless times...You cannot and will not be able to love someone else, when you don't even truly love and accept yourself. Most miscers get bent out of shape just for saying this, but there's not much any of us can do when people refuse to accepth they're a part of the issue. They don't seem to agree though, that the problem is always someone else's fault, never their own.

[HeBrewHammah]

I can agree that it does warp outlook a bit, but is helpful in watching out for red flags and common behaviours/how to deal.

All I can say is, don't get caught up in this crap. YES, there are bad people out there - always has been. But there are also GOOD people, + good women out there as well.

To a certain degree, you can find decent advice here - but I'd say the majority of it is WAY overblown, and completely out of proportion. The MISC hates women primarily because most of these guy's seem to have some kind of rejection story, that they took poorly. (in most instances it seems) Others have legitimately been screwed over, also.

But what I think a lot of you miss, is the fact that reading this stuff continually every day, you're reinforcing the thought process in your head. Which inevitably makes it harder to break the cycle when you do meet someone. You're shooting yourselves in the foot because of how you let the misc reprogram your brain.

[azakdan2682]

All I can say is, don't get caught up in this crap. YES, there are bad people out there - always has been. But there are also GOOD people, + good women out there as well.

To a certain degree, you can find decent advice here - but I'd say the majority of it is WAY overblown, and completely out of proportion. The MISC hates women primarily because most of these guy's seem to have some kind of rejection story, that they took poorly. (in most instances it seems) Others have legitimately been screwed over, also.

But what I think a lot of you miss, is the fact that reading this stuff continually every day, you're reinforcing the thought process in your head. Which inevitably makes it harder to break the cycle when you do meet someone. You're shooting yourselves in the foot because of how you let the misc reprogram your brain.

I can see this, it is not just misc at around 24 after having had some bad exp I fell into the pus crap and essentially warped my mind. Had both good and bad exp, got good at picking up women, but with the mindset I adapted I was picking up the wrong ones and reinforcing those beliefs, and have had a difficult time getting away for that mindset. So I have realized that this wa brought on through my own actions and have made it worse, been wanting to change and become more psychologically healthy.

[HeBrewHammah]

And believe me, none of you need that crap.


A lot of you guy's think you're broken, and will never have a chance - but the real issue I think is that you let the overall mentality here take your future happiness away from you. You don't see it, because you think you're protecting yourself, but your mindset and outlook towards women is what keeps you down.

I'd say closer to 90% of you could have a great happy and successful dating life, but that would require you to change your outlook from that of which you got from this place though.


Most of the articles you read (kerword: most), are from straight bs sources. Most of the situations that you come across, are handled very poorly and that usually reflects on the OP.


Human attraction is a bit more complex than what this place makes it seem, unfortunately. To a degree, yes it is the basic principles, but people are far more complex beings that the black and white version the misc sells to you all.

[MajesticLion]

Manipulative women seem to have a keen ability to seek out men that are manipulable. I have had the same problem. Do some self reflection and figure out what your emotional vulnerabilities are so that they stop preying on you.

There are good women out there and I suppose the first step is to accept that they are out there and tell yourself you deserve to be with one.

Even better, improve yourself to the point where you actually earn the rewards you want...and quite a few you probably haven't even thought of yet.

"Deserve" has nothing to to do with it.

[azakdan2682]

And believe me, none of you need that crap.


A lot of you guy's think you're broken, and will never have a chance - but the real issue I think is that you let the overall mentality here take your future happiness away from you. You don't see it, because you think you're protecting yourself, but your mindset and outlook towards women is what keeps you down.

I'd say closer to 90% of you could have a great happy and successful dating life, but that would require you to change your outlook from that of which you got from this place though.


Most of the articles you read (kerword: most), are from straight bs sources. Most of the situations that you come across, are handled very poorly and that usually reflects on the OP.


Human attraction is a bit more complex than what this place makes it seem, unfortunately. To a degree, yes it is the basic principles, but people are far more complex beings that the black and white version the misc sells to you all.

Yes, I am going to start working on this change.

[Lightsoft]

The girls can pick out men who can be manipulated. I know this for a fact.

Example. We are in the strip club. The girls tend to approach certain guys constantly. Why? because they can tell the man is lonely or whatever.

[skinnybig2]

I've been like that in the past, real problem was that I was down/depressed over other things and when you are like that you rarely meet good, relationship-quality women. If anything you will attract the ones who are manipulators, abusive etc because they will sense that loneliness/negativity.

[AskMeHowIKnow]

one of the reasons why it can be hard for miscers to find psychologically healthy women is because they aren't psychologically health themselves.

IME people are unaware of the 'red flags' they show which psychologically healthier people generally pick up on during an introductory interaction.

^^^this^^^

[cackeye]

OP, you don't have to stop hating women, just turn it into motivation to improve yourself so that one day you might be worthy of them.

They have very high standards, and think they deserve the very best men no matter what they look like - that's just a fact and we all have to live with it.

You've gotta use your hatred of them to work out hard to get an extraordinary physique, study hard to get the best job possible and earn the most money possible. All of these things will increase your pulling power with women, and you can use your hatred of women as motivation to achieve them. You may not ever get truly good enough to get with them (few men ever will), but at least you will get closer and you will be able to pay for your lonely retirement even if you fail.

[snucks]

Manipulative women seem to have a keen ability to seek out men that are manipulable. I have had the same problem. Do some self reflection and figure out what your emotional vulnerabilities are so that they stop preying on you.

There are good women out there and I suppose the first step is to accept that they are out there and tell yourself you deserve to be with one.

Many dudes were raised to be a certain way when it comes to women. Treating them the way we are 'supposed to' puts them on a pedestal and it causes them to figuratively 'look down' on us by default.

Human beings are chitty creatures naturally. We generally attempt to get away with whatever we can "give an inch take a mile" ...etc

Back when I was a lot more outgoing and friendly with women I pretty much only attracted very troubled and dented can types.
If you lined up 20 random women chances are the 3 or 4 that were on some type of pscyhe med would for sure have liked me. These days When I come across a woman that I can tell is interested I simply don't care because chances are very good she is just as fuked as the others.

[adi4fitness]

1) find happiness for yourself independent of them... the moment they become your source of happiness you know you are screwed
1) accept them for as they are
2) don't chase , replace.

[justins1983]

Manipulative women seem to have a keen ability to seek out men that are manipulable.

I prefer to say they gravitate towards men they can manipulate. Manipulative people try to manipulate everyone and tend to find themselves surrounded by people they can manipulate through a process of elimination. People who recognize their true nature avoid being manipulated and will remove manipulators from their lives.

[snucks]

I prefer to say they gravitate towards men they can manipulate. Manipulative people try to manipulate everyone and tend to find themselves surrounded by people they can manipulate through a process of elimination. People who recognize their true nature avoid being manipulated and will remove manipulators from their lives.

It's funny how different these types treat you once they realize they can no longer pull chit with you anymore.

[azakdan2682]

Well the thing is I am not easy to manipulate, for some reason girls when they first meet me think that...it might be because I have an innocent looking face, only5 '8'' and generally positive. I hook up with a lot of these girls, but they always try to manipulate or use me and eventually drop them. I just wonder if they do not try this with other dudes or I just attract chit women. I generally agree with that you give a women an inch, she will take it a mile. It would be a relief if did not have to constantly be on my guard and they just had a good nature, but as some other say ppl in general or chit...they get what they can take from others with no fuks given.

[FitnessBlue]

How to stop hating women?

Freeze yourself for 50+ years and hopefully wake up to westernization unfukking itself.

Or...

Obtain a deloreon and a flux capacitor, go back in time to the 50's.

[pantiespending]

How to stop hating women?

Freeze yourself for 50+ years and hopefully wake up to westernization unfukking itself.

Or...

Obtain a deloreon and a flux capacitor, go back in time to the 50's.

Lol, this.....

and stare at a pussy getting wet..........

Das it!!!!

[FitnessBlue]

Lol, this.....

and stare at a pussy getting wet..........

Das it!!!!

Also forgot the simplest of ways.

Move to Asia!

[LordBroski]

A lot of people in general are total douchebags who are to be avoided. Us guys are just oblivious to other guys who are dick bags because we're biased.

A lot of girls I've met are bitches, but I can pick up on that vibe and avoid them. I tend to attract women who are nice, delicate, nurturing, sensitive, and I really appreciate having that calming feminine energy around me. Most of my friends are girls, and I bang a lot of girls, and these chicks hook me up with their friends and what not. We regularly talk about issues, I can go to them for support, they give me the girl's POV, etc. I have my bros too, but it's good to have a female opinion.

I used to hate women until I started appreciating the positives of the quality ones. Also, you can't just assume women are a certain way right off the bat, because then you'll treat the worthy ones like crap and prevent yourself from meeting them.