Hi,
I am in my 30's and I'm not new to excercise or working-out but I've recently decided to take my excercise program more seriously and take my expectations of how I want to look to the next level. I've recently read a lot about GH and it's positive effects etc... Where I am confused is what is the difference between GH products and HGH products? Are they the same products? Do they have the same results? Any product recommendations for either?
I appreciate any help or advice.
Thanks!
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Thread: GH vs HGH
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05-04-2005, 09:15 AM #1
GH vs HGH
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05-04-2005, 09:17 AM #2
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05-04-2005, 09:20 AM #3
And just so you're clear as to why, growth hormone (the actual peptide hormone in the human body) isn't anabolic, and it's only lipolytic and anti-catabolic in extremely high (re: supraphysiological) amounts. And this is the actual recombant, drug form of the hormone.
Futher info:
Short-term recombinant GH administration (40mcg/kg/ED) has shown no effect on the fractional rate of skeletal muscle protein synthesis, nor has it been shown to reduce the rate of whole-body proteolysis (re: break-down), even though it does elevate circulating IGF-1 concentrations, and this is in experienced weight-lifters (1). A similar six-week study on trained athletes found that GH administration had no effect on maximal strength or body-composition (2).
Or, to phrase it conclusively:
From: Rennie MJ.Claims for the anabolic effects of growth hormone: a case of the emperor's new clothes? Br J Sports Med. 2003 Apr;37(2):100-5.
The results of studies of muscle protein synthesis, body composition, and strength in healthy young to middle aged humans tell a different tale: so far no robust, credible study has been able to show clear effects of either medium to long term rhGH administration, alone or in combination with a variety of training protocols or anabolic steroids, on muscle protein synthesis, mass or strength.
Additional Refs. cited:
1. Yarasheski KE, Zachweija JJ, Angelopoulos TJ, Bier DM Short-term growth hormone treatment does not increase muscle protein synthesis in experienced weight lifters. J Appl Physiol. 1993 Jun;74(6):3073-6.
2. Deyssig R, Frisch H, Blum WF, Waldhor T. Effect of growth hormone treatment on hormonal parameters, body composition and strength in athletes. Acta Endocrinol (Copenh). 1993 Apr;128(4):313-8.It seems these poets have nothing up their ample sleeves...
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05-04-2005, 09:21 AM #4
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05-04-2005, 10:15 AM #5
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05-04-2005, 10:21 AM #6Originally Posted by sculli
Most top contenders at the Mr. Olympia have either supplemented with Human Growth Hormone in the past or are doing so in the present, with dramatic results.
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05-04-2005, 10:26 AM #7Originally Posted by sculli
Most top contenders at the Mr. Olympia have either supplemented with Human Growth Hormone in the past or are doing so in the present, with dramatic results.
Injectible HgH will run you somewhere between $8,000 and $20,000 a year
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05-04-2005, 10:26 AM #8Originally Posted by johnnybbad
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05-04-2005, 10:32 AM #9Originally Posted by sculli
The product itself isn't hard to obtain if you have a connection with any reputable laboratory or pharmaceutical manufacturer.
Like I said, if one is careful about one's use - as they should be with any supplementation - and if one's insulin, hepatitic, pancreatic, and other values are taken, say, bimonthly, I don't see why this person shouldn't supplement with hgh.
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05-04-2005, 06:37 PM #10
Great Advice
Thanks guys. All of your info and references have been a help. Like I said, I am looking for that certain legal and safe way to gain that "Umpf" that can make a significant/dramatic increase.
Have any of you out there been able to find an off the self product that can help with my routine?
I apprecciate all of your comments and feedback.
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05-04-2005, 09:40 PM #11
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Originally Posted by KRAFTY
BTW I have 2 very close friends who are dosing Jinotropin right now @ 4-6 IU's/day and the results have been surprisingly good!
F.Obsessed is a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated.
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05-04-2005, 09:59 PM #12
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