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Old 09-21-2007, 11:05 PM   #1
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Why do multivitamins never have enough of anything in them?

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Old 09-21-2007, 11:07 PM   #2
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Maybe you just expect too much :-p

Actually, in part it's probably due to the fact that some ingredients would take a full pill themselves to be a decent dose and im guessing alot of customers dont wish to eat several pills for a complete multi.
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If you really are interested in fitness and bodybuilding, your diet should have you meeting or just slightly undercutting your micronutrition RDAs; multivitamins are supplementary, not a replacement for a micronutrition-void diet.
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If you really are interested in fitness and bodybuilding, your diet should have you meeting or just slightly undercutting your micronutrition RDAs; multivitamins are supplementary, not a replacement for a micronutrition-void diet.
My diet is spot on, but still. I like all the minerals/antioxidents and herbs you can get from a good multi.
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My diet is spot on, but still. I like all the minerals/antioxidents and herbs you can get from a good multi.
Well, your post says "Why do multivitamins never have enough of anything in them?" - If your micronutrition was spot-on, even the cheapest, silliest kid;s multivitamin would be enough to give you the "extra" micronutrition that athletes need over the RDA
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Old 09-22-2007, 01:33 AM   #8
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You could just do a centrum, then seperately take Vit C, B complex, E, and whatever else. I buy time released for the C and B...don't think it's available in the others. That way, you aren't pissing away most of it by taking a big dose that releases at once.
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You could just do a centrum, then seperately take Vit C, B complex, E, and whatever else. I buy time released for the C and B...don't think it's available in the others. That way, you aren't pissing away most of it by taking a big dose that releases at once.
Centrum are rubbish. Was on them for a year and felt nothing.

They're 5x worse than what i'm on now.
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find the multi that best suits you. i would stick with ast 32x because it has all the essentials, but orange triad helps relieve my shoulder issues.
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Centrum are rubbish. Was on them for a year and felt nothing.

They're 5x worse than what i'm on now.
That's why I said to get larger doses of the stuff you really want seperately. There probably is no multi that has enough of all the things you want, so no sense in taking a strong multi if you go that route...may end up getting too much of certain vitamins if you do that.
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Well, your post says "Why do multivitamins never have enough of anything in them?" - If your micronutrition was spot-on, even the cheapest, silliest kid;s multivitamin would be enough to give you the "extra" micronutrition that athletes need over the RDA
i agree 100% here! and to OP, if you cant find a multi that has "enough" ingredients for you, then just up your intake of said multi, while i dont suggest it unless you research the upper limits of EVERY ingredient. maybe itll make you happy.
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well said man, a sound diet is no.1 the multi just backs it up.
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Multis are "underdosed" because they are meant to be supplemental to your diet, meaning extra. You should be getting alot of nutrients from your diet, a multi just helps give you a little bit more. It follows the "some is better than none" ideal. Also, multis are made for the general population. Everyone has different needs, needs different amounts of things. There is no way to make a multi for each age group, each class of people, and so on and so on.
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Multis are "underdosed" because they are meant to be supplemental to your diet, meaning extra. You should be getting alot of nutrients from your diet, a multi just helps give you a little bit more. It follows the "some is better than none" ideal. Also, multis are made for the general population. Everyone has different needs, needs different amounts of things. There is no way to make a multi for each age group, each class of people, and so on and so on.
You don't get much in the way of micronutrients from your diet. Especially typical bodybuilding type diets which lack variety.
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Most multivitamins are underdosed for athletes. Remember when your training hard you have much higher requirements then most people.
If you train hard you will naturally eat more food and as long as that food is not powders your micro intake should match your requirements.
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You don't get much in the way of micronutrients from your diet. Especially typical bodybuilding type diets which lack variety.
What?? How did we do it for millions of years previously without animals paks
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Do what for millions of years?
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If you train hard you will naturally eat more food and as long as that food is not powders your micro intake should match your requirements.
You don't get much in the way of micronutrients from your diet. Food nowadays has much less nutrients than years ago as soils are depleted. Many foods are frozen and/or processed and they lose nutrients. Furthermore typical bodybuilding diets lack variety and therefore are deficient in micronutrients.

You take a multivitamin as nutritional insurance for your micronutrients, it does not replace food however athletes have higher requirements then sedentary people.
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You take a multivitamin as nutritional insurance for your micronutrients, it does not replace food however athletes have higher requirements then sedentary people.
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lol @ millions of years.

maybe 200k years, but anyways back on topic.
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Do what for millions of years?
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You don't get much in the way of micronutrients from your diet. Food nowadays has much less nutrients than years ago as soils are depleted. Many foods are frozen and/or processed and they lose nutrients. Furthermore typical bodybuilding diets lack variety and therefore are deficient in micronutrients.

You take a multivitamin as nutritional insurance for your micronutrients, it does not replace food however athletes have higher requirements then sedentary people.
"Much less," I disagree.

Variety promotes deficiencies. We need to lean towards certain foods because that is what we evolved on.
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maybe 200k years, but anyways back on topic.
Human species have been around for millions of years.
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