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    Compound movements vs Isolation movements

    Well, if compound movements would be better because they maximize the effects of loading on as much muscles as possible per exercise, how would this be "effective" loading if you arent able to really "concentrate" on the secondary muscles(such as triceps in bench press) and squeeze them extra hard, etc..

    Or is this all useless? Meaning, if you "focus" on a targetted muscle during a specific movement, do you recieve more benefit then if you just go through the movement with proper form??

    Because I've always thought "putting your mind" into each "targeted muscle" for each exercise is very important. But I am curious does this really have added beneficial effect on hypertrophy?

    The next thing is, from what does hypertrophy exactly occur? The question for me is, is it just the "load"(otherwords increased tension by added weight) or is it the causing as much damage as possible to the muscle. Otherwords, is performing reps and concentrating on shredding as many fibers as possible the ideal thing to do, if you want maximal hypertrophy, or does that just affect muscle endurance/strength? Because it would seem logical that isolation exercises would be more effective for "burning out" a targetted muscle then a compound movement... but with that logic it would make it seem that compound movements are inferior to isolation movements.
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    Re: Compound movements vs Isolation movements

    Originally posted by Gmav
    Well, if compound movements would be better because they maximize the effects of loading on as much muscles as possible per exercise, how would this be "effective" loading if you arent able to really "concentrate" on the secondary muscles(such as triceps in bench press) and squeeze them extra hard, etc..

    Or is this all useless? Meaning, if you "focus" on a targetted muscle during a specific movement, do you recieve more benefit then if you just go through the movement with proper form??

    Because I've always thought "putting your mind" into each "targeted muscle" for each exercise is very important. But I am curious does this really have added beneficial effect on hypertrophy?

    The next thing is, from what does hypertrophy exactly occur? The question for me is, is it just the "load"(otherwords increased tension by added weight) or is it the causing as much damage as possible to the muscle. Otherwords, is performing reps and concentrating on shredding as many fibers as possible the ideal thing to do, if you want maximal hypertrophy, or does that just affect muscle endurance/strength? Because it would seem logical that isolation exercises would be more effective for "burning out" a targetted muscle then a compound movement... but with that logic it would make it seem that compound movements are inferior to isolation movements.
    Compound movements work best because they involve alot of muscle groups all at once... so in reality you get more done with one single movement... isolation movements are done to finish off the muscle when you have expended alot of your energy on the compound movements for tha muscle..the mind muscle concept your talking about is best used on isolation movements... not compound movements its kinda hard to worry about the mind muscle 'link' when deadliftin 600lbs!!.lol save that for the isolation i.e pulldowns..preacher curls e.t.c...
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    If you only do isolation movements you will make minimal size and strength gains, isolations are good, but just make sure you focus on bread and butter compounds
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    yeah make sure to do both
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