ephedrine

[_jthompson_]

Hey guys I just picked up some ephedrine, there 8mg pills. I've been taking 1 pill with a coffee 15mins before i workout. My question is, is this what I should be doing, or should I take more? I know this stuff isn't good for you so I dont want to over do it. I'm taking it more for energy, but some fat loss would be nice... Reps for any helpful posts!

thanks,

-jt

[emchowdhury]

You need 25 mg ephedrine and 200 mg of caffeine. 8 mg is not enough. Try Vasopro it is pretty good. it is ephedrine hcl. it is legal. It helps shortness of breathing and a over the counter drug for asthma.

[emchowdhury]

well for 17 year old it is not good for you or anybody else. You should not take ephedrine when you do High intensity, like playing basketball, soccer, running, HIIT etc.

[justanothagirl]

well for 17 year old it is not good for you or anybody else. You should not take ephedrine when you do High intensity, like playing basketball, soccer, running, HIIT etc.

thats actually when u should be taking it, why else would you need it?

8mg+cup of coffee (+-100mg) sounds like a good dose.

[ryanthestark]

@ 17 I cannot reccomend it, but since your going to do it anyways ephedrine HCL should be dosed at roughly 20mg w/ 1 caffiene pill (100mg)

[Bodybuilder230]

I am not thinking about it now, but if my diet and exercise isnt working out alone in the next few weeks i was thinking of taking an EC stack. The problem is that I have no idea where to get ephedrine. Any information on when to take it and is it a good thing to put my money into? Also, Where do i get it?

[pekker]

it looks like its easier to find ephedrine in the EU rather than the USA. POint is , its banned eveywhere...

anyway i saw some Efedrin Arsan somewhere, its turkish and comes in 50mg tabs...ofcourse youd have to take half of it, then a cup of cofee and an aspirin about 30 mins before workout. The euforic effect sometimes stops you from realising that youre moving too fast , so keep your mind clear to pick up feedback of overheating from your body or arrythmia from your heart.

agree that 17 is too early. but if you had to make it work, do 16mg atleast ..and after youre confident enough take 3 (24mg). Bot not more than 3 on each dose...

[Abc^^]

Um Ephedrine is NOT HELPFULL before the gym, affects your breathing if doing heavy weights or cardio
Have a double expresso before the GYM!
MEanwhile 8mg is fairly low, you KNOW when your at the right stage as your sweating and quite literally FEEL energy coming off you
take it with 100mg of coffee like red bull has 80mg
Not to worried age wise, ephedra is fairly safe once not abused like some other threads
Best of luck with it

Try taking it at
8am
12pm
3pm

100mg and whatever dose of ephedra necessary to get your fat burning |

[vroompac]

Id start off low dosing it. Since you got 8mg pills maybe only take 24mgs a day. See how that works. I wouldnt go over 50mgs. Go buy Primatene Mist tablets they come in 12.5mg tabs. Take 2 with a caffiene pill and if you want baby aspirin (not needed imo) and you are set.

[Abc^^]

When i was on the v diet i got up to 85 mg a day on ephedrine with 3 servings your toleration flies up fast
ANyover over 100 go see a doctor !

[vroompac]

Ya Im just saying to slowly work your way into it. No sense causing health problems for an extra little kick.

[gollybegully]

can someone pm me a good place to order online? its not for me obviously. Just trying to do a friend a favor.

[_jthompson_]

Thanks for the help guys, and I turn 18 in less then a month so don't worry so much about my age.

[-Aaron-]

Um Ephedrine is NOT HELPFULL before the gym, affects your breathing if doing heavy weights or cardio
Have a double expresso before the GYM!
MEanwhile 8mg is fairly low, you KNOW when your at the right stage as your sweating and quite literally FEEL energy coming off you
take it with 100mg of coffee like red bull has 80mg
Not to worried age wise, ephedra is fairly safe once not abused like some other threads
Best of luck with it

Try taking it at
8am
12pm
3pm

100mg and whatever dose of ephedra necessary to get your fat burning |

You sir, are incorrect on almost all points.

[_jthompson_]

You sir, are incorrect on almost all points.

care to offer a more correct answer?

[UhhWhatever]

I regularly take 40mg of ephedrine, with a 200mg caffeine pill, chase it down with a monster energy drink, and do max effort deadlifts.

Work your way up slowly to determine your tolerance and what works best for you, but at 8mg, you're nowhere close to being in danger of overdoing it.

[derickonfire]

Read in many places that only 25mg or so at once of Ephedrine is effective. Take that dose with 2-300mg of caffeine a few times a day for best utility. (2x-3x)

I HIGHLY DISCOURAGE the idea of taking the dose right before an intense cardio workout. This is way tooooo taxing on your body, and you will NOT be effecient at your cardio. Try it if you don't believe me. I can hardly run 5 minutes if I take this stack right before running. You may be able to do this after being on a full-dose stack for a few months and you've gotten use to it, but right off the bat - hell no.

EC is great for lifting though, since you're getting a good flow of blood already, this makes it more intense - but not quite over the top like intense cardio.

25mg doses is safe, sure - just don't abuse this stack. It's very very easy to go an entire day without eating, you need to watch the clock and eat according to that.

[ryanthestark]

EC is good for pre workout, I take it all the time you just gotta make sure you drink lotsa water. Bad for pre cardio though. And to clear things up yes the reccommended dose is 25mg, prefferably 3 times a day.

But 20mg HCL = 25mg Sulfate, so its up to you....

I takle 20mg HCL (8mg pills are to hard to dose close to 25mg)

[-Aaron-]

care to offer a more correct answer?

Certainly.

Point 1) Splitting the ephedra/caffeine dosages is a proven better way to take it.

i.e) 12.5mgs + 100mgs every two hours, rather than the standerd 25/200.

Point 2) He made a claim saying that, "Ephedra doesn't help with workouts." Tell that to my gains along with everyone else's gains while on the EC Stack. He's basically stating that you should take the EC Stack without working out, or opposite times you train. To me, this seemed like one of the dumbest claims on this board.

Point 3) He made a claim about the age of people using it. The "age only" claim is the same reason why people in the U.S. can't smoke until their 18, or drink when they're 21. It's because out government feels that anyone under 18 isn't mature enough to partake in these things. Although, to avoid any type of banning or disciplinary action, I won't advocate taking the EC Stack under 18. Although, it's not going to harm anyone under 18 in any way. There have been a few people claiming that it stunts growth, but I have yet to see any studies to that effect.

There.

[emchowdhury]

Ok guys if you want real thing. you should get 25 mg of ephedrine HCL, it's called Vasopro, 200 Mg of Scifit's caffeine, and 325 mg of Bayer Aspirin. It is called ECA stack. Stack'em no more than 3 times a day. Search on google for Vasopro. it's pretty cheap.

[-Aaron-]

Ok guys if you want real thing. you should get 25 mg of ephedrine HCL, it's called Vasopro, 200 Mg of Scifit's caffeine, and 325 mg of Bayer Aspirin. It is called ECA stack. Stack'em no more than 3 times a day. Search on google for Vasopro. it's pretty cheap.

Don't stack aspirin with it. Maybe baby aspirin, but even that's debatable. Too much can cause ulcers and other bad stuff.

[emchowdhury]

Don't stack aspirin with it. Maybe baby aspirin, but even that's debatable. Too much can cause ulcers and other bad stuff.

Yes I got heartburn and Ulcers from using aspirin with it only when I took it empty stomach. I did not use ECA more than two weeks though. Way too jittery. But the ECA stuff is crazy. Tear your hearts out and it works very well.

[vroompac]

I also tend to crash pretty hard after the stuff wears off. And a little story for you about taking too much....

When I was young and stupid many moons ago (although still stupid, just not young) I took 8 ripped fuel (the old formula) once over the course of like 5 hours cause I was working and needed to stay up for the whole day. I seriously thought I was gonna die. My heart would race then slow down, I couldnt stop sweating, and when I came down I slept for an entire day. And you wanna talk about jitters, I was acting like a crackhead, I was shaking and couldnt stop moving around. I was young and dumb and thought more was better. Dont make the mistake thinking this stuff cant hurt ya.

Go slow

[ozigal]

Don't stack aspirin with it. Maybe baby aspirin, but even that's debatable. Too much can cause ulcers and other bad stuff.

ulcers from aspirin are caused when taken on an empty stomach, and a lot of research has found that it aids in reducing heart disease and stroke. Other bad stuff- care to elaborate?

[derickonfire]

ulcers from aspirin are caused when taken on an empty stomach, and a lot of research has found that it aids in reducing heart disease and stroke. Other bad stuff- care to elaborate?

How about the fact that EC stack is good to take on an empty stomach?

[-Aaron-]

ulcers from aspirin are caused when taken on an empty stomach, and a lot of research has found that it aids in reducing heart disease and stroke. Other bad stuff- care to elaborate?

Really? Look below.

How about the fact that EC stack is good to take on an empty stomach?

Owned.

[_jthompson_]

Certainly.

Point 1) Splitting the ephedra/caffeine dosages is a proven better way to take it.

i.e) 12.5mgs + 100mgs every two hours, rather than the standerd 25/200.

Point 2) He made a claim saying that, "Ephedra doesn't help with workouts." Tell that to my gains along with everyone else's gains while on the EC Stack. He's basically stating that you should take the EC Stack without working out, or opposite times you train. To me, this seemed like one of the dumbest claims on this board.

Point 3) He made a claim about the age of people using it. The "age only" claim is the same reason why people in the U.S. can't smoke until their 18, or drink when they're 21. It's because out government feels that anyone under 18 isn't mature enough to partake in these things. Although, to avoid any type of banning or disciplinary action, I won't advocate taking the EC Stack under 18. Although, it's not going to harm anyone under 18 in any way. There have been a few people claiming that it stunts growth, but I have yet to see any studies to that effect.

There.

Thanks a lot bro that was a great help! reps


Guys Thanks so much for all the help, this is great! I'll add reps when im able, one more question, since I'm not really trying to lose a lot of weight, will this stack hurt my muscle gains? It would also be nice if i lost a little fat ive been bulking for a few months and my BF% is climbing to 15%+ so losing a little fat wouldnt hurt, but i'm not ready to fully cut yet.

[derickonfire]

It won't effect your muscles gains.. unless you stop eating or don't eat enough.

Like I said, make sure ya eat according to the clock and eat enough.

The EC stack is said to be most effective after you've been on it for a while (minus the appetite supression, that gets weaker) so I wouldn't see a problem in starting the stack now before you actually cut..

[ponsho]

should i take it on Empty stomach lets say 30 min before a meal? and what about taking a dose 2 hours before Hiit?? i love to do RPM ( Hiit on a bike, like spinning )

[Cram]

I kinda skipped a lot of posts cause I want to write this, so sorry if this has already been said.

A couple people said you need to take 20+mg's of ephedrine a dose for it to be effective. Do NOT jump the gun and start taking three pills a dose. The combination with caffiene makes EC a potent stim, you need to gauge yourself first to make sure you A) Adapt to incremental increases in doses and B) you do not have serious issues taking EC.

Some people do have issues on E/C. You do NOT want to be on the treadmill and suddenly start having heart palpatations/other issues because you jumped the gun on the stims without letting your body adjust. For the love of god, please work your way up to 24mg a dose, give yourself a week if you go to the gym everyday. Go 8mg a dose for the first few days, then 16mg for a few days and then 24.

This might be unnecessary for you, or it may very well be. Everyone reacts to stims differently. No need to rush anything.