Thoughts on NFL RBs complaining about their contracts?

[BrickEX]

Has someone explained to them the concept of market value?

Someone tell these idiots they are only worth what an owner is willing to pay. Shut up and run the ball.

[ohiostate124]

How long until traditional rbs are gone just like fullbacks? Probably won’t be long until all you see are guys like CMAC and Deebo.

[MBisonSon]

^^^

However long, you'll still be conveniently wearing motorcycle helmets in pictures to cover up that homely face.

[ohiostate124]

^^^

However long, you'll still be conveniently wearing motorcycle helmets in pictures to cover up that homely face.

If you’re gonna follow me around, try not to own yourself so hard.

[Swept]

They picked the wrong position

[wasp9166]

I miss the old days

Where a wr or qb could get blasted ,rb pounded it


It's been molded for revenue

[Murph0408]

i roll my eyes at all the complaints about the franchise tag. this was all just negotiated in 2020 with a 10-year agreement. your union agreed to this.

as for RBs specifically, they have done it to themselves with so many of the guys falling on their face right after getting paid. also way too many examples of a backup / lower round pick getting an opportunity and being nearly as productive or more.

[Evolutionary1]

i roll my eyes at all the complaints about the franchise tag. this was all just negotiated in 2020 with a 10-year agreement. your union agreed to this.

as for RBs specifically, they have done it to themselves with so many of the guys falling on their face right after getting paid. also way too many examples of a backup / lower round pick getting an opportunity and being nearly as productive or more.

most recent is Zeke.

Just another reminder to l0l @ cowboys

[BigBallsMcgee]

Should have learned to catch

a lot of them can catch, it doesnt matter

RB is over. theres nothing they can do

[BigBallsMcgee]

as for RBs specifically, they have done it to themselves with so many of the guys falling on their face right after getting paid.

that isnt why they arent getting paid. they're not getting paid because of analytics telling teams that running doesnt matter nearly as much as passing so why invest in it

[tripod29]

Poor ball runners. I feel so bad for them.

[akmerle]

that isnt why they arent getting paid. they're not getting paid because of analytics telling teams that running doesnt matter nearly as much as passing so why invest in it

Correct, with all of the offense friendly rule changes / modifications, especially in terms of passing, it doesnt make sense to run a traditional backfield. Easier with higher success rate to have your mobile QB RPO in a designed roll out in short yardage situations. Why have a traditional run game when the yds/play for passing is demonstrably better? I dont see folks crying rivers for traditional MLB's and NT's, and the same market change is happening for them as well, just not as fast.

Its no different than the traditional power forward spot in basketball getting phased out to favor stretch 4's. You will get run off the floor with 2 bigs. The traditional power forward is now called an undersized backup center. Learn to shoot, or you get market corrected.

Same thing is happening in the NFL, RB's need to follow the mold of CMC / Deebo / Cook / etc, because traditional RB's are quickly becoming slow slot WR's / short TE's.


EDIT...... I do however feel bad for them getting franchise tagged, just as I do for any player getting the tag. Its brutal for players, and being grossly abused by the owners. Totally within the rules, but am almost always pro-players vs. ownership, so hate seeing is grossly abused.

[LightsXout28c]

They picked the wrong position

Not every RB has the skill set, body type to be a WR. They are two completely different positions. A RB can be NFL caliber but only lower tier D1 at WR.

[WHChampion]

RB production is easily replaceable.

Marketability and jersey sales are the best assets the top RBs bring to their teams.

[BigBallsMcgee]

Correct, with all of the offense friendly rule changes / modifications, especially in terms of passing, it doesnt make sense to run a traditional backfield. Easier with higher success rate to have your mobile QB RPO in a designed roll out in short yardage situations. Why have a traditional run game when the yds/play for passing is demonstrably better? I dont see folks crying rivers for traditional MLB's and NT's, and the same market change is happening for them as well, just not as fast.

Its no different than the traditional power forward spot in basketball getting phased out to favor stretch 4's. You will get run off the floor with 2 bigs. The traditional power forward is now called an undersized backup center. Learn to shoot, or you get market corrected.

Same thing is happening in the NFL, RB's need to follow the mold of CMC / Deebo / Cook / etc, because traditional RB's are quickly becoming slow slot WR's / short TE's.


EDIT...... I do however feel bad for them getting franchise tagged, just as I do for any player getting the tag. Its brutal for players, and being grossly abused by the owners. Totally within the rules, but am almost always pro-players vs. ownership, so hate seeing is grossly abused.

tag and rookie contract stuff is bs. Takes way too long to get to FA IMO.

Sad to see what has happened to RBs cause they're still some of the most exciting players in the game.

[Vhagar]

I hope they all hold out and then sign smaller deals the next year because nobody cares

[DirtyD79]

i roll my eyes at all the complaints about the franchise tag. this was all just negotiated in 2020 with a 10-year agreement. your union agreed to this.

as for RBs specifically, they have done it to themselves with so many of the guys falling on their face right after getting paid. also way too many examples of a backup / lower round pick getting an opportunity and being nearly as productive or more.

Yep, can't blame teams for not wanting to break the bank on a dude who is gonna be out of the league after his 6th or 7th season.

[BigDeeps01]

It sucks but it is what it is. Offensive line and scheme are more important than RB talent now anyway

[jonmcd46]

it sucks for them because they have a short shelf life, and take a lot of punishment, but it makes sense. Passing is so much more efficient. The difference between a chitty rb and an elite one is about a yard per carry(3.5 vs 4.5).
Why pay Jacobs or Barkley a chit ton of money when you can split the load with a James Robinson, C-Patt, and some 4th round rookie, and do quick screens/reverses to guys like Tyreek Hill or Deebo then have a Justin Fields or Tayson Hill run an option with the threat of a pass.

[WestAfrica]

it sucks for them because they have a short shelf life, and take a lot of punishment, but it makes sense. Passing is so much more efficient. The difference between a chitty rb and an elite one is about a yard per carry(3.5 vs 4.5).
Why pay Jacobs or Barkley a chit ton of money when you can split the load with a James Robinson, C-Patt, and some 4th round rookie, and do quick screens/reverses to guys like Tyreek Hill or Deebo then have a Justin Fields or Tayson Hill run an option with the threat of a pass.

Justin Fields Tayson Hill notsureifsrs

[WetCoaster]

Running back Saquon Barkley has signed his franchise tag with the New York Giants, the team announced Tuesday.

The deal is a one-year, adjusted franchise tag worth $10.1 million fully guaranteed and up to $11 million with incentives, sources told ESPN. The tag was adjusted to add a $2 million signing bonus, as well as the incentives, sources said.

The $909,000 in incentives includes an equal amount paid for three categories: 1,350 rushing yards and a playoff berth, 11 touchdowns and 65 receptions, sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter.

The deal does not include a "no franchise tag" clause, sources told ESPN, meaning the Giants can tag him again after this season. This is something Barkley and his team were hoping to receive.

This was quite a concession by Barkley to report on the first day of training camp for veterans. The Pro Bowl running back was already in the building Tuesday before 8 a.m. ET, a source told ESPN.

[NorrinRadd12]

1. NFLPA's fault
2. Somewhat Barkley's fault. In 2018 when he was drafted #2 overall he had the power to flip things in favor of RBs. He could have not signed his rookie deal until they put in a provision that they can't use the franchise tag on him. He had all the leverage then. None now.

[bezarker]

[rocketfish]

i remember "back in the day" when "old school" coaches taught ground and pound football to control the game. Now QB's be throwing it 40-60 times a game.


now teams are getting RB's on rookie deals and when it comes time for a new contract, draft another RB rookie deal and get similar results

[Futureone07]

i remember "back in the day" when "old school" coaches taught ground and pound football to control the game. Now QB's be throwing it 40-60 times a game.


now teams are getting RB's on rookie deals and when it comes time for a new contract, draft another RB rookie deal and get similar results

too many first round RB's just don't work out

[Murph0408]

too many first round RB's just don't work out

i don't think that's the case at all. many of them work out great, they just don't last.

even recently. najee harris, zeke, saquon all started out great. i'm sure bijan will be great this year. but nobody's going to want them after they turn 25-26 years old.

saquon's new deal - not really impressed by this at all. he basically needs to have a career year in multiple ways, and would get a 900k bonus. that's a lot of money in real life but not in his life for what he'd be doing to get it.