**The Official Pittsburgh Steelers Thread***

[ramsgoldberg61]

Thanks for your service Big Snack...sad day indeed.

Will rep anyone that makes this into a Meme

[kethnaab]

so here's a 22-minute video of Hebron Fangupo, the guy I mocked to us as our future NT



he's #91. A few points to keep an eye on

1. Presnap motion - BYU uses a ton of it with multiple formations and multiple alignments. He lines up (off my memory) head up on center, the 1 tech and 3 tech in undershifted "4-3" nickel alignments (basically 2 down linemen and 2 pass rushing OLBs), he lines up in straight nickel formations where he's the only down lineman, lines up as a 5-tech or 7-tech in a 3-4 and a 4-3, he runs inside-out stunts, and takes on double and triple teams left and right.

the things I like most about him

1. Motor - NT's making plays on screen passes to WRs is kinda nuts. Dude is 330 lbs but he runs and he moves laterally very well

2. Violent hands - disengages like a monster. He uses his hands and ragdolls OL left and right.

3. Smart dude - the multiple presnap alignment switches and all the motion means the dude has his head in the game. He's not just a "duh....I is bigboy I sit on QB head" dude.

yes, it's a highlight video.
no, it's not a video of him playing against the SEC.

anyway, there it is, in case you're interested.

[Mitch1313]

Found a lulz article about Billy Cundiff and ordering a jersey off the Ravens fan sight

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...080349417.html

[thegenerel]

so Arians to the Colts?

[kethnaab]

so Arians to the Colts?

don't care. he's gone. that's what matters.

now we gotta get someone in there that can re-teach Ben how to be a professional QB, not just a sandlot wizard

[FormulaLT1poweR]

Colts hired Bruce Arians as offensive coordinator.
So much for Arians' "retirement." Forced out in Pittsburgh thanks in part to his reluctance to run the ball, Arians has landed in a place where passing is the tradition. One of the league's most aggressive play-callers during his five seasons with the Steelers, Arians' hiring is excellent news for whomever the Colts take with the No. 1 overall pick (assuming it's Stanford's Andrew Luck or Baylor's Robert Griffin III), and could be a sign the Colts don't plan to leave the training wheels on Peyton Manning's replacement for long.

-WE DUN GOOFED?

[thegenerel]

-WE DUN GOOFED?

no, he is totally average as an OC

[FormulaLT1poweR]

no, he is totally average as an OC

BRB, Ben Roethlisberger throws a fit because 1.) he (Arians) did not "retire" and was forced out of Pittsburgh, and 2.) he's (Arians) already signed somewhere else.

Then, Ben decides he wants to play with Arians again, the Colts want the reunion and offer the #1 pick for Ben.

What do you do?

[kethnaab]

get more than just the #1

[Johnny Rotten]

Arians would be a good fit for the Colts if Peyton returns.


































Because Peyton could audible out of every play at the line of scrimmage.

[FormulaLT1poweR]

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Colts plan to hire Steelers linebackers coach Keith Butler as their defensive coordinator.
Butler is in his ninth year on the Steelers’ coaching staff after joining the team prior to the 2003 season and has been instrumental in the development of James Farrior, James Harrison and LaMarr Woodley, among others. The Steelers have consistently led the NFL in total defense, rushing defense, and sacks, under his tenure. Schefter notes that Chuck Pagano, Bruce Arians and Butler were all on Butch Davis' staff in Cleveland in 2001.

[thegenerel]

Bouchette said Butler's contract ends on Feb 15th, so the Colts couldnt hire him until then. Still a chance the Steelers officially make him Lebeau's successor

[FormulaLT1poweR]

Bouchette said Butler's contract ends on Feb 15th, so the Colts couldnt hire him until then. Still a chance the Steelers officially make him Lebeau's successor

Didn't we resign Lebeau to a 1 year deal? Or are you saying, we keep Butler, and promise him the DC job next year?

Regardless with the trio of Pagano, Arians and Butler...I'm assuming they WANT to reunite?

[thegenerel]

Didn't we resign Lebeau to a 1 year deal? Or are you saying, we keep Butler, and promise him the DC job next year?

Regardless with the trio of Pagano, Arians and Butler...I'm assuming they WANT to reunite?

it is possible, but Butler was the promised the job unofficially, and the Steelers could give him that in writing if he wanted to stay.

imo Steelers DC in 2013 > Colts DC in 2012 (rebuilding team)

[kethnaab]

Didn't we resign Lebeau to a 1 year deal? Or are you saying, we keep Butler, and promise him the DC job next year?

Regardless with the trio of Pagano, Arians and Butler...I'm assuming they WANT to reunite?

how about old man LeBeau and his tired, stale, blitzes retire, and Butler takes over now?

[FormulaLT1poweR]

The Steelers interviewed ex-Colts head coach Jim Caldwell for their offensive coordinator vacancy on Saturday.
Those covering the team expect the Steelers to stay in-house as they pursue Brian Arians' successor, but they're doing their due diligence on alternatives. Caldwell has coached quarterbacks for the Bucs, Penn State, and with the Colts before his head-coaching promotion. He has never been a true coordinator.

- Say hello to our new OC in the next few days...

The Colts plan to hire Steelers linebackers coach Keith Butler as their defensive coordinator.
A Steelers assistant since 2003, Butler was instrumental in the development of James Harrison, LaMarr Woodley, and Lawrence Timmons in Pittsburgh. Raw 2010 second-round pick Jason Worilds also flashed big-time ability under Butler's tutelage this past season. New coordinators Bruce Arians and Butler will fit right in on new Colts coach Chuck Pagano's staff, as all three worked together under Butch Davis in 2001 with the Browns. Butler will help Pagano install a 3-4 defense as Indianapolis undertakes a full-on rebuilding project. We wouldn't expect Robert Mathis, Gary Brackett, or Dwight Freeney back in 2012.

- Say good by to our LB coach, who should have stayed.

[kethnaab]

ugh.

[FormulaLT1poweR]

ugh.

That's beginning to be my feelings/words for this offseason, and it just started. I wasn't a big Arians believer, but I also wasn't a big hater. Regardless of his style, we had success. Ben put up good #s, went to a few Super Bowls, etc.

The whole "back to Steelers football" is retarded. It's a passing league, and QBs (Peyton, Brady, Brees, Rodgers) are protected as such. Record #s, with record scoring...why? THROWING the football...something Arians liked/wanted to do. Granted I wasn't always in favor of Bubble Screen left on 1st and 10, TE screen on 2nd and 9, then all out streaks on 3rd and 12.

We shall see, what happens. I think losing Lebeaus predecessor is a bigger blow compared to Arians, but I could be wrong.

[kethnaab]

We shall see, what happens. I think losing Lebeaus predecessor is a bigger blow compared to Arians, but I could be wrong.

losing Arians is nothing. His only real usefulness was his ability to pick out later round WRs. We have 3 of them, they're all under 24. We're fine without him.

Losing LeBeau's next guy is HUGE to me, although I'm really wonderng if

a) LeBeau doesn't retire

and

b) Tomlin moves to a 4-3

[FormulaLT1poweR]

losing Arians is nothing. His only real usefulness was his ability to pick out later round WRs. We have 3 of them, they're all under 24. We're fine without him.

Losing LeBeau's next guy is HUGE to me, although I'm really wonderng if

a) LeBeau doesn't retire

and

b) Tomlin moves to a 4-3

You've probably said it before, but how would plan b) work...as far as personnel?

[Johnny Rotten]

Arians success came from Ben making plays, not from play calling.

Caldwells success came from Peyton making reads/adjustments, not from play calling/coaching.


I really hope the Steelers pick up a guy that actually follows the trends in football. We would be nearly unbeatable if we called more slants, flats and drag routes rather than deep post after deep post after deep post.

[Johnny Rotten]

BTW, with Hampton out it's time to say goodbye to the 3-4 for the most part...That is unless Hood can put on another 20-30 lbs and be effective at NT.

I'd personally like to see a more hybrid 4-3/3-4 defense like we had Tomlins first year here.

[adamsteve14]

BTW, with Hampton out it's time to say goodbye to the 3-4 for the most part...That is unless Hood can put on another 20-30 lbs and be effective at NT.

I'd personally like to see a more hybrid 4-3/3-4 defense like we had Tomlins first year here.

I dont care what system we employ as long as we can get to the QB. The fact that our pass D was as good as it was last year without any pass rush at all is a real testament to the secondary.

[FormulaLT1poweR]

I dont care what system we employ as long as we can get to the QB. The fact that our pass D was as good as it was last year without any pass rush at all is a real testament to the secondary.

Too bad none of the above happened against Denver.

[kethnaab]

You've probably said it before, but how would plan b) work...as far as personnel?

well, with the guys we have right now, here's how I'd line it up (boldfaced would be "excellent" fits)

LDE-DT-UT-RDE
SLB - MLB - WLB


Woodley - Cam - Ziggy - Worilds
Harrison - ???? - Timmons


Ziggy and Timmons are SUBSTANTIALLY better suited for a 4-3 than a 3-4.

BTW, with Hampton out it's time to say goodbye to the 3-4 for the most part...That is unless Hood can put on another 20-30 lbs and be effective at NT

he's big enough if we move to an attacking 1-gap system rather than the read-react 2-gap system we work now. That would almost definitely necessitate picking up Dont'a Hightower though, as Timmons is incapable of getting off blocks as it is with a marginal season from the DL still 2-gapping. We would need HIghtower out there to protect Timmons or he'd waste another season's salary

[ramsgoldberg61]

Getting ready to watch the Pro Bowl at my buddy's house, need some suggestions for (slightly healthy) munchy food for the game!

Will give measly 15K rep points for suggestions

[FormulaLT1poweR]

well, with the guys we have right now, here's how I'd line it up (boldfaced would be "excellent" fits)

LDE-DT-UT-RDE
SLB - MLB - WLB

Woodley - Cam - Ziggy - Worilds
Harrison - ???? - Timmons

Ziggy and Timmons are SUBSTANTIALLY better suited for a 4-3 than a 3-4.

he's big enough if we move to an attacking 1-gap system rather than the read-react 2-gap system we work now. That would almost definitely necessitate picking up Dont'a Hightower though, as Timmons is incapable of getting off blocks as it is with a marginal season from the DL still 2-gapping. We would need HIghtower out there to protect Timmons or he'd waste another season's salary

I like it, but the BIG ??? would be MLB then. And yes Hightower would immediately fill that void and excel. I might swap Worlids and Harrison though, but we really haven't seen much from Worlids to properly place him IMO. Keisel would simply turn into a relief guy, which might not be a bad thing...although I do like seeing him on the field.

Getting ready to watch the Pro Bowl at my buddy's house, need some suggestions for (slightly healthy) munchy food for the game!

Will give measly 15K rep points for suggestions

I only watched until Rivers came in. Ben's pick was a good play by Matthews AND a terrible throw on his part. His 2 other TD's were pretty nice, crazy what he can do with a little "time".

INB4 "it's the Pro Bowl", no pass rush, etc (I understand this).

[Big7Ben86]

Getting ready to watch the Pro Bowl at my buddy's house, need some suggestions for (slightly healthy) munchy food for the game!

Will give measly 15K rep points for suggestions

anything with poison in it, so you dont have to endure the rest of this game

[ramsgoldberg61]

anything with poison in it, so you dont have to endure the rest of this game

This was a plausible solution until I accidentally bumped my remote and changed the channel

disasteravoided.jpeg

[wtfwjd]

I wouldn't give Mike Wallace a big contract. He has improved his route running, catching, blocking, etc. but I just think it would be a waste to ink him to some huge deal. With the numbers he has put up he is definitely a top 10 WR but he really didn't do that great towards the end of the season and is going to want top 5-10 WR money. I think Antonio Brown is a better overall receiver than him and if Sanders can ever stay healthy he is too.