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Old 09-17-2007, 07:31 AM   #1
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Yep.

Here's the plan:

2 Scoops of Cycle Support/Day. Water high. And, i'm not going to gorge myself this time around. I will eat in excess, but i'm looking to keep this cycle to very lean dry gains. No reason i cant hit 220+.

Days 1-3: 20mg PP
Days 4-7: 30mg PP
Days 8-14: 45mg PP
Days 15-21: 45mg PP; 30mg PD
Days 22-28: 30mg PP; 45mg PD
Days 29-35: 30mg PD
Days 36-42: 40mg Nolva
Days 43-49: 40mg Nolva
Days 50-56: 20mg Nolva
Days 57-63: 20mg Nolva

Clomid if necessary.

Prolly something like this. I have 10mg and 15mg caps of PP so i can vary the dosage. I may not get up to 45mg...may go 35 or 40. We'll see. I may throw in the rest of my Epistane in there as well...we'll see.

May adjust here and there.

I've ran PP before very successfully, along with a few other orals...so i have a rather high tolerance. I may actually run the Prop higher.

Anywho...started yesterday at 20mg...bumping to 25 today.

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Old 09-17-2007, 07:45 PM   #2
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Day 1: OFF
10mg PP @ 6:30am; 10mg PP @ 6:00pm

Nothing to report.



Day 2(today): Power Upper
10mg PP 6:30am
15mg PP 6:15pm (Preworkout)

Slight headache throughout the day. I've gotten these before on PH's, so i would normally contribute it to the PH. Not bad by any means though.

Workout was average, no effects yet.


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Read the above schedule, it's in there for 3 weeks. And, i will likely draw it out till i finish the bottle.
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Starting weight will be 204


Day 3: Power Lower
10mg PP @ 6:30am
15mg PP @ 6:00pm (Preworkout)

Comments: Felt great today, no sides..lots of energy in the gym. No lethargy yet, nor back pumps on deadlifts. This was the first time i've pulled since a severe back injury, and managed to pull 405x3 smoothly.


Tomorrow is an off day; will get some cardio in.

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Day 4-OFF
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15mg PP @ 6:00pm

Comments: Did 30 minutes LI/MI cardio. No real sides, maybe a tad bit of lethargy. Bodyweight is somehow already 211(+6) (taken on an empty stomache upon waking). No carbs for dinner last night either.

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I've been looking into PPlex and Sdrol or Havoc. This should be a good guide. Good luck man!!
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Day 5: Hypertrophy Chest/Bi's/Tri's
10mg PP @ 6:30am
15mg PP @ 7pm

Comments: Played 18 holes of golf today, and it really flared my elbow up. Had to work around the pain during the workout, but got it done. Had crazy pumps with the higher reps. Wish more energy was there, but im straight up tired from the week, plus the elbow pain was a bummer. Still, a pretty decent workout. Looking for the increases to really start now.

I will be starting the Prop tomorrow @ 45mg. A big change of plans here, but from talking to some people, this seems to be the way to go. PP will stay @ 25mg through the week, then will go up to 30 minimum.
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Day 6: OFF
10mg PP @ 6:30am
10mg PP @ 3:30pm
10mg PP @11:15pm

Comments: Lethargy is kicking in. I was damn tired all day, but i can contribute some of that to the long week and not much sleep. Today was supposed to be a workout day, but just didnt have it in me, so i'll be working out both Saturday and Sunday.

Hypertrophy delts/back/traps today.
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Lol! Tear up dem weights today, DAMNIT!
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I ordered another bottle of Prop today. I talked with a couple buddies, and they recommended me to run it at a minimum of 75mg. So as soon as one of em gets in (should be today or very soon), i will start with 75mg on top of my PP dosage...and i will start with two 5mg doses of nolva throughout the cycle to control estrogenic sides which could occur.

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Comments: Had a slightly better than average w/o. No real PR's, but it was a hypertrophy day so i'm not supposed to set em anyway (cept for high rep PRs). I've almost (after today) made it through my entire w/o rotation, so it's time to see some gains! Felt great today!

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Day 8: Hypertrophy Legs/Calves
40mg PP Spread throughout the day

Comments: Had a great workout. BB Back squatted 315x8 smoothly and Deep. Feeling wonderful minus a bit of fatigue.

Day 9: Power Upper
45mg Spread in 3 even doses peak dosage

Comments: Decent workout. Strength is starting to climb. Feeling hard throughout the day. Def. retaining some water though. Lethargy is kicking in pretty hard, as are the backpumps.

Day 10: Off/LI Cardio
45mg spread in 3 even doses

Comments: Been pretty damn lethargic, but nothing too bad. My propadrol will be in tomorrow, and i will begin at 60mg and work up to 90mg. Need to drop this water, it's driving me craaazy

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Day 14: Hypertrophy Delts/Traps/Back
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Comments: Feeling great overall. No real lethargy. Strength is up some, but nothing crazy. My muscles feel full and pumped out of the gym, so when lifting it's pure ecstasy. Nothing crazy to report.


Squats tomorrow.

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Day 15: Hypertrophy Legs/Calves
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Comments: Feeling excellent. This combo may just be the bread and butter PH stack everyone's been looking for. I'm experiencing pretty much no lethargy (knocks on wood), and the backpumps have been controlled with taurine.

Here's a vid i shot today of 335x8 BB Back Squats:




Strength is climbing nicely. My arms are already up a half inch. Weight is roughly 214(+10) upon waking.

2 more weeks baaaabbbyyy
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Day 16: OFF
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Comments: Cool as a cucumber.

Day 17: Power Upper
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Comments: Absolute beast mode in the gym. Set PR's in 4 out of 5 exercises. Sides are increasing. High blood pressure, acne, bad back pumps and lethargy. Long as they dont get too much worse, i'm keeping dose and possibly upping PD.

Absolutely incredible stack so far.

Up to 217(+12) morning weight
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Nice man, lookin real strong dude, keep it up.
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Are you running AX PP or a clone?

I understand why you are running Nolva on cycle. But I was wondering why you decided to use the serm instead of an AI like formestane or 6brom on cycle?

Fantastic log, no nonsense, very decriptive and has a very no BS/honest feel so far! Rock on!
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I understand why you are running Nolva on cycle. But I was wondering why you decided to use the serm instead of an AI like formestane or 6brom on cycle?

Fantastic log, no nonsense, very decriptive and has a very no BS/honest feel so far! Rock on!
I have both. I ran the ax PP earlier on, and now i'm taking 3 15mg pills of P-Max.

I used a SERM because I personally KNOW it will yield the results i want. I have no need to try something that may leave me with undesired effects. Nolva and Clomid are my go to's..and will prolly always be.

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Sorry for not updating lately guys, i've been VERRRRY busy. Everything is going well though, very well. I've continued to set PR's, and my sides are still managable.

Im currently at:
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Today is day 22. I increased my 8RM to 340 on BB Back Squats. Singled 405. And, set a 12RM with 315.

Incline DB Pressed 100's for 10 (All time PR is 105x8).

And pulled 505 last week (All time PR is 510).

Weight is up to 219(+14) morning weight. Looking to finish this around 225(+21).

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