Lipo 6/Vasopro Ephedrine Stack

[Sn_R]

Lipo 6/Vasopro Ephedrine Stack

About Me/ Background
I am 18 years old and have been working out seriously for around 4 months, and on and off for about a year. I have primarily been doing free weights for four days of the week and doing H.I.I.T for one to two days of the week. Supplements I have used include: creatine monohydrate, CEE, sesathin, H.E.A.T, ZMA, Green Tea, ast multivitamin, and whey. I have never used ephedra or ephedrine before and my daily caffine intakes varies but is usally moderate.I also tend to be a poor speller.
Current Stats
Weight:157
Height:5' 11'
Waist: 32" at belly button

About Lipo 6 and Vasopro/Dosage
Lipo 6 Liquid Caps Contain:

Synephrine HCL 20mg
Synthetic 99% Guggulsterones Z&E 1:1 20mg
Yohimbe HCL 3mg
Caffeine Anhydrous USP 200mg
Bioperine 5mg

Vasopro Contains:

Ephedrine HCI 25 mg.
Guaifenesin 200 mg

Today I took 1 Vasopro tablet (25mg) and 4 lipo six tables total (2 servings).

First Day Review
I took 1 vasopro when I woke up (9:00am) and initally 2 lipo-6 tabs, the other two lipo-6 tabs I took around noon. For the first 30min I felt nothing (probally because I took them after I ate a big bowl of rolled oats), but soon after I felt a huge surge of energy. I could not stand still, and was very shakey. I felt great though, not anxious like I thought I would. My heart rate when I was doing very littile was around 90, it usally is 65! Through out the day the energy never subsided, as of now 10:30 pm I still feel it! This evening I went on a run and did 4 miles at a 7:30 pace (which is a boost from my 8min per mile). I did not feel very hungry today and ate around 2000 cals.. So far so good. I do not intend to up the dosage on either product as together they seem very powerful! I do plan on cycling the supplements, 5 days on 2 off, and 3 weeks on 1 off. I will have pictures in a couple of weeks.

[Sn_R]

Some other things I forgot to mention:
I felt very hot today, most likely because of the stack.
I also broke into a sweat much easier and made sure to drink plenty of water.
I also had an occasional runny nose, but don't know it that is related, it did start today though.

[deadbluesky]

i have been on lipo 6 for 3 months and has worked better than other weight loss pills

[bigdj55]

well, the caffine in the lipo will make your nostrils open

[Sn_R]

Day 2

Last night I did not sleep well, hell I didn't really sleep at all. Today I felt exhausted and when I took the vasopro and lipo-6 it gave me the feeling that I was running on pure adreneline. I felt like I had no fuel but was "super awake", I didn't enjoy the feeling. I also could tell my body was starving but did not get hungry, I just got tired, anxious and annoyed.

I went to the Gym today to do shoulders and had no strength, I gave up after 20 min. I hope tonight I get a good sleep and this wont happen again.


*I plan on cutting the dosage in half on both lipo and vasopro*

[CharlotteFreak]

The Guaifenesin 200 mg will make your nose run as well. It's used in the medical community for such things

[pu12en12g]

The Guaifenesin 200 mg will make your nose run as well

There are other possible side effects from the Guaifenesin as well.

[Sn_R]

Took half the ephedra(12.5mg) and the same amount of lipo-6 tabs (4). I felt better today, somewhat upbeat and peacful. I did not get that jittery and didn't feel the effects of the stuff nearly as much. I went to the gym to work out and felt great.

My weight is exactly the same, but I look slightly leaner.
I am considering taking a full tab tommorow, because of todays results. Maybe I am getting used to it.

[Sn_R]

Once again I could not sleep. It sucks, I felt drained all day. I did not take the ephedra today, only the lipo. I think the ECY combination is screwing me. So I will not take Lipo-6 with the ephedra anymore. Tommorow I will only use ephedra.

[Sn_R]

Last night I actually slept! Today I took only the ephedrine and caffine. I found myself in a completly normal state, no surge of energy or lack of.


This causes me to believe that the Y in the ECY stack was my problem not the EC.

[WeezieFBaby]

eh hope this works out for u cuz im 5'11, 160 exactly too and about 12 % body fat .. im tryin to get it down to like 8% so if it works out for you... then i might give it a try!! heheh :P good luck buddy

[Sn_R]

Yes, im at about 12% bodyfat too.

Today I took only the ephedrine and caffine and felt great, energized but relaxed. My appetite was slightly down and my mood was up! Good day.

[WeezieFBaby]

hey does creatine help u a lot? and whats ur diet like ....

[pu12en12g]

I will only use ephedra.

1) Good luck on your fatloss. By the way, you don't need these thermos / stims at your age.

2) Using Ephedra... there's problem #1. Ephedrine HCL is superior.

3) Preferrably, go with either EC or YC... not both (ECY). So Y may have indeed been the problem (when stacked).

[Sn_R]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sn'R
I will only use ephedra.



1) Good luck on your fatloss. By the way, you don't need these thermos / stims at your age.

2) Using Ephedra... there's problem #1. Ephedrine HCL is superior.

3) Preferrably, go with either EC or YC... not both (ECY). So Y may have indeed been the problem (when stacked).

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It is Ephedrine HCL (vasopro) not ephedra, I accidently typed ephedra. Ever since stoping the ecy and taking only the ec I have been feeling great! I'am positive the Y was the problem.

Today I felt fresh and energized I took only the ephedrine and caffine. My appetite was a littile less than normal and I havn't had the shakes the last few days nor any unwanted anxiety, I hardly notice and negative stimulant effects! At the gym I had the most intense arm workout ever! I had a pump for over an hour and just kept pounding my triceps and biceps! Last night my sleep was awsome,I went to sleep quick and had several dreams.

[Sn_R]

hey does creatine help u a lot? and whats ur diet like ....

I'm actually a nonresponder to creatine monohydrate, and am now taking omega thunder cee. It helps get me better pumps and better focus but I can't say for sure that it helps me put up more weight or not.

My diet is good. I eat lots of whole grains (oat meal),lean beef, veggies and fruits and sometimes bad snacky foods at work, (I work at a movie theater and sometimes can't resist the nachos or popcorn )

[long_john]

Hey I was wonderin what kinda dosages you are takin cuz right now I am takin both ephedrine hcl and caffene also.. so if you wouldnt mind posting it then it might help me alot... thx

[Sn_R]

Right now im taking 25mg ephedrine and 200mg + of caffine, once a day. Next week I may double the dosage.

[WeezieFBaby]

hmm im not sure if i shud try what ur doing or just try takin lipo 6... im 17 tho thats the thing.. i just have a time frame and i need to get sub 10% quick

watcha think ... from ur expierence and gains so far from the ec

[Sn_R]

I would recommend doing one or the other, not both! I think they both work well and are safe seperatly, but together I found there we too many side effects. The E/C stack is cheap 48 tabs or ephedrine (vasopro) for about $10, and $4 for 90 caffine pills, and that should last you a month or more.

[DaRk_StAr]

SN'R how much weight have you lost so far? Keep up the good work mate. I only started yesterday as well im 18 years of age. And i started taking 30mg with 200mg caffeine twice a day upon wakening and 30min prior workout. My first day i COULDNT GET TO SLEEP i had no idea why as well. Also i was sweating when i was lying in my bed. Just oculdnt get to sleep just lying there closing my eyes lol. And then when the next day began for school i was so tired took 30mg ephedrine and 200mg caffeine and i was totally awake and cheerful but somewhat felt so tired such a wierd feeling then i went to the gym and had like no energy even though i felt like i did was really wierd. tonight i am hopeful i will get to sleep. Keep up the good work mate.

[Sn_R]

It is hard to tell for sure how much weight I have lost because my weight varys by up to 7 pounds a day because of waste and water losses and gains. I estimate that I have lost a littile less than a solid pound of fat. I will have my weight update tommorow (exactly a week on the stack) and will weigh myself tommorow morning after I use the bathroom.

I plan on adding the lipo-6 back to the stack soon just to see if my body can handle it and to confirm that that was the reason I felt so miserable and couldn't sleep. It may have been the lipo-6/ephedrine combo or it could have just been the fact that my body had not adapted to the ephedrine and caffine. My body seems to have become very tolerant of the ephedra over the last few days, and the rush of energy I once felt is gone. Now I hardly feel the effects of the ephedra/caffine. So I figure that if I add the lipo-6 now it would determine for sure if it was the cause of the problem. If it dosn't cause any problems than it can be determined that the my body just needed more time to adjust to the supplements.

Today I went to the gym and worked my legs out doing squats, leg extensions and calf raises. I workout so intensly that I could no longer physically continue and I was nearly out of breath and shaking like crazy, it was great. This isn't a result of the E/C stack but my own personal motivation and desire to take my training to the next level.

P.S. I hope to have weekly pictures posted in a couple weeks, I would love to post them weekly but I don't have a digital camera, only a disposable!

[Sn_R]

---------1 Week Review----------

Today I took weighed myself making sure my hydration and waste were the same as last time. I weighted 155lbs, 2 pounds lighter than a week ago. I also look somewhat leaner. As i mentioned in other posts my appetite has gone down and the stimulant effects of the stack have gone away. I no longer get jitters or surges of energy. Today I had to self myself to eat because I had no appetite and all I had this morning/afternoon was a bowl of oat meal. This caused me to become annoyed easily and somewhat on edge but after I forced myself to eat a salad and a protien shake I felt much better.

[Sn_R]

Today I doubled the dose to two ephedrine tabs (50mg total) and double the caffine to 400mg. I felt the effects immediatly. I became jittery and developed a weird feeling that was like how you body feels when you are starving or when you stay up for 24 hours straight dopped up on caffine, extreamly awake but physically spent at the same time. I felt like I was starving but I wasn't hungry at all, I had no appetite whatsoever. I made sure to drink lots of water and forced myself to eat. I know I doubled the stack amount, but the original dosing seemed to have completly lost its effect about 3 days ago and from what I have read of the stack it is suggested to up the dosing on your second week to keep your metabolism from droping to below normal.

I am going to go off the ephedrine for a week and switch to the lipo-6 for this week. My body is telling me to stop, so I will listen. No need to do damage to myself.

[Sn_R]

Today took 4 tabs of lipo-6 spaced out. It made me super energetic in the morning and afternoon but my workout seemed to suffer and I became exhausted and had muscle weekness, in the late evening I felt kind of drained as well. Better than the ephedrine though, and can still tell its working. Will do this for the week and then switch back to ephedrine.

[WeezieFBaby]

u think the lipo 6 works better then the ephedrine?

[Sn_R]

If I was going to buy one or the other it would be the lipo-6, because it seems just as effective and has less side effects. But I will not be able to say for sure until I give it some time. The Ephedrine/caffine stack is cheaper though. Lipo-6 Liquid jells contain synephrine which is very similar to ephedrine but safer.

"Although synephrine and several other compounds found in zhi shi are structurally similar to ephedrine and are known to act as stimulants (via adrenergic activity), zhi shi does not appear to have the same negative central nervous effects of ma huang (ephedra). Through its stimulation of specific adrenergic receptors (beta-3, but not beta-1, beta-2 or alpha-1), zhi shi is theorized to stimulate fat metabolism without the negative cardiovascular side effects experienced by some people with Ma Huang (which stimulates all beta-adrenergic receptors)."

http://www.supplementwatch.com/supat...pplementId=273

[Sn_R]

Not much to report today. Only took two of the lipo-6 pills because I worked all day and was only able to take them in the morning. Felt great today though. No problems.

[Sn_R]

Took 2 servings today. Nothing good/or bad to report. Did an intense leg workout today.