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    please do not start this thread going. Everyone has their onpinion. Ronnie is the ****, and will win for the next 3-4 years(in my opinion). Ronnie has one flaw, his gut. Jay has multiple flaws, wide waist, not enough definition in his back, soft glutes(compared to ronnie), and nonsymetrical abs. Dexter is excellent, but he just lacks overall size, bottom line.
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    Originally Posted by SsiK
    Ronnie prolly won't even make it another 3-4 years with all the roids and GH he puts in his body.


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    This is a stupid, and incredibaly ignorant response. Ronnie does not use any more roids, gh, or insulin than any of the other top pros, which includes dexter, and jay.

    Just because Ronnie is the biggest and best does not mean he uses more stuff than other guys, and to say so makes you look incredibaly unintelligent.
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    Originally Posted by SsiK
    Ronnie prolly won't even make it another 3-4 years with all the roids and GH he puts in his body.


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    I'm sure ronnie knows that better than you and me.

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    please do not start this thread going. Everyone has their onpinion. Ronnie is the ****, and will win for the next 3-4 years(in my opinion). Ronnie has one flaw, his gut. Jay has multiple flaws, wide waist, not enough definition in his back, soft glutes(compared to ronnie), and nonsymetrical abs. Dexter is excellent, but he just lacks overall size, bottom line.
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    Yeah, I will admit though, most likely no one will beat Ronnie.


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    Originally Posted by SsiK
    Jay Cutler!


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    this is why he will never win whilst Ronnie is alive and competing;by far his worse bodypart
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    Originally Posted by RACKITUP
    this is why he will never win whilst Ronnie is alive and competing;by far his worse bodypart
    Please! Jay's face's much more human than ronnie's, if that's the case, jay owns ronnie silly.
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    Originally Posted by Fridrik
    Please! Jay's face's much more human than ronnie's, if that's the case, jay owns ronnie silly.

    Ronnie doesnt look like his right testicle is about to explode when he does a side chest pose.....Jay however....does!

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    I'm disappointed, judging from the title of this thread I was hoping to see some pics of Ken Jones.
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    i have to agree i do think jay is better
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    Originally Posted by M.Bison
    i have to agree i do think jay is better
    For everyone that says Jay is better please explain. I already listed why Ronnie is the Best ever. All people can ever say in response is that Ronnie has a gut. Well yes, but what pose can Ronnie be beat in? (remember ab and THIGH inludes legs)
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    Originally Posted by bbjeff86
    please do not start this thread going. Everyone has their onpinion. Ronnie is the ****, and will win for the next 3-4 years(in my opinion). Ronnie has one flaw, his gut. Jay has multiple flaws, wide waist, not enough definition in his back, soft glutes(compared to ronnie), and nonsymetrical abs. Dexter is excellent, but he just lacks overall size, bottom line.
    jay's waist is pretty small. and about his abs, that's genetic...flex's abs are stacked the same whay, in a brick like fashion, while dex's are stacked side by side. so you can't call that a weakness. that's like saying dex's weakness is that his lats are high...
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    Originally Posted by TheOCkid04
    jay's waist is pretty small. and about his abs, that's genetic...flex's abs are stacked the same whay, in a brick like fashion, while dex's are stacked side by side. so you can't call that a weakness. that's like saying dex's weakness is that his lats are high...
    those are weaknesses though. GENETICS are one of the greatis factors in pro bodybuilding. So i think that you can call them weaknesses. And if not called that, you can atleast say that Ronnie's lats, waist size, and abs(not gut, but ab muscles) are better than jay.
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    you know, all though i do think that jay cutler should be mr. oylmpia by now, he shouldve one about 2 yrs ago imho.

    the fact of the matter is this, alot of the kids ragging on ronnie have never seens his videos.
    go watch cost of redemption or the unbielable and the come back and try and bash him.

    allthough like i said, i think jay cutler shouldve won in the past and should win this year, i RESPECT ronnie coleman, he payed his dues and is STILL paying his dues to be number one, hes a positive guy and a positive thing for the sport.
    he doesnt go around bad mouthing the judges or saying this and that, he thinks the challenge round is good and he promotes overall good stuff in bb'ing.

    allthough i can not say that ronnie coleman' physique is olympia caliber IMHO, i know for a fact that he is the hardest training most dedicated bodybuilder out there! POINT BLANK!

    i respect him and as long as he keeps training the way he does, hell continue to win. like he says, "every body wants to be a bodybuilder, but dont no body wanna life no heavy ass weight" that is the truth.
    ive seen jays movies, i understand his training principles, there the same as me, its not about the weight, but if he wants to be mr olympia, he needs to step it up and do what EVER it takes.

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    Originally Posted by juanca
    you know, all though i do think that jay cutler should be mr. oylmpia by now, he shouldve one about 2 yrs ago imho.

    the fact of the matter is this, alot of the kids ragging on ronnie have never seens his videos.
    go watch cost of redemption or the unbielable and the come back and try and bash him.

    allthough like i said, i think jay cutler shouldve won in the past and should win this year, i RESPECT ronnie coleman, he payed his dues and is STILL paying his dues to be number one, hes a positive guy and a positive thing for the sport.
    he doesnt go around bad mouthing the judges or saying this and that, he thinks the challenge round is good and he promotes overall good stuff in bb'ing.

    allthough i can not say that ronnie coleman' physique is olympia caliber IMHO, i know for a fact that he is the hardest training most dedicated bodybuilder out there! POINT BLANK!

    i respect him and as long as he keeps training the way he does, hell continue to win. like he says, "every body wants to be a bodybuilder, but dont no body wanna life no heavy ass weight" that is the truth.
    ive seen jays movies, i understand his training principles, there the same as me, its not about the weight, but if he wants to be mr olympia, he needs to step it up and do what EVER it takes.

    JC
    he already tried that last year by playing the big man game, and though he was big (in fact he was wider than ronnie), he got soft. what he needs to do is go back to the way he looked in 01...he looked fantastic then (and i still believe he looks fantastic) its just that ronnie is better. but if jay does step it up, go back to conditioning, come in on the lower half the 260's, he'd win no doubt. but as ruhl said (even though its kinda ignorant to say this) "ronnie is unbeatable"
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    Originally Posted by RACKITUP
    this is why he will never win whilst Ronnie is alive and competing;by far his worse bodypart
    nuh uh, jay is such a pretty boy.
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    Cutler is a great bodybuilder without a doubt, however i think if we were to compare the flaws of cutler and coleman you would still see why coleman wins.

    Coleman:
    - The gut
    - Weak Calves (arguable)

    Cutler:
    - Wide Waist
    - Asymmetrical Biceps
    - Consistent Watery and flat back
    - frequently soft glutes
    - The "blocky" look (this one is also arguable as some people like the blocky look)

    And as for their strengths, cutler beats coleman on calves and abs, thats about it. Coleman owns Jay from the back, no contest. Colemans Chest is insane. Colemans arms also put jay to shame. Colemans thighs are, well, awe inspiring. All in all i think coleman is the better choice.
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    Originally Posted by SsiK
    Jay Cutler!
    No I'm sorry, it's been Coleman for the past 7 years. Get with the program.

    The gut, please. Doesn't change anything anymore (maybe "it's a shame and bla bla bla"). Bodybuilders are judge on their pose, when they're flexing, not when they're hanging around.
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    Originally Posted by RACKITUP
    Ronnie doesnt look like his right testicle is about to explode when he does a side chest pose.....Jay however....does!

    never seen Jay do this.....
    No, still I have to disagree with your facial argument.
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    Originally Posted by TheOCkid04
    jay's waist is pretty small. and about his abs, that's genetic...flex's abs are stacked the same whay, in a brick like fashion, while dex's are stacked side by side. so you can't call that a weakness. that's like saying dex's weakness is that his lats are high...
    thats very much a weakness of dexters, and a massive weakness at that. so what if its genetc? what exactly do you think a weakness is?

    as for the title of the thread, go back into the mr olympia archives and pull me out jay cutlers name as a winner of any of them. i garuntee you wont find it. but youll find ronnies 7 times, and that my friend is the TRUE mr olympia, like it or not.
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    Originally Posted by SsiK
    Jay Cutler!


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    Originally Posted by mindraper


    ....forget it!


    Actually, that picture make's jay look very good next to ronnie. Well it seems, that in that picture jay has better quad straition's on his right legg and jay actually has lower abs, while ronie's looks like some kinda... I dunno, melt candy or something.
    And they don't have much difference in legg size either in that picture you just presented.

    Ofcourse, when you get rear double, maby front double and rear lat spread, ronnie wins jay.
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