Researching First Cycle Help!

[ElliotWilliamp]

Hi, considering my first cycle...

I was thinking about a D-Bol only cycle for 6-8 weeks pyramiding doses along the lines of (per week)

20
40
40
60
40
40
20

I know I need pct for afterwards and milk thistle before during and after the cycle.

The reason i want to try a D-bol only cycle is because I don't want to jump straight into injectables. I'd prob try those (if this cycle goes well) on the next.

My main question is, should or is there any other oral steroids I can take with the D-Bol to heighten the effects?

Any comments, support help welcome... just please make it constructive help.

Thanks
Elliot

[Moose46]

Originally Posted by ElliotWilliamp

Hi, considering my first cycle...

I was thinking about a D-Bol only cycle for 6-8 weeks pyramiding doses along the lines of (per week)

20
40
40
60
40
40
20

I know I need pct for afterwards and milk thistle before during and after the cycle.

The reason i want to try a D-bol only cycle is because I don't want to jump straight into injectables. I'd prob try those (if this cycle goes well) on the next.

My main question is, should or is there any other oral steroids I can take with the D-Bol to heighten the effects?

Any comments, support help welcome... just please make it constructive help.

Thanks
Elliot

couple of things, i dont think you did enough research being that you NEED test in there and I do understand you dont want to inject but why half ass the cycle? I mean you're not going to gain much off of a pyramiding dbol only cycle, which leads me to my next question. Why would you pyramid dbol? its uneccessary and running only 20mg at a time will give you minimal gains. A dbol only cycle will bloat the hell out of you and give you much added water retention, not to mention running it 8weeks will do a number on your liver, which you should know already being that you did all this research. Basically, hold off on the cycle until you're mentally prepared to inject a form of test. Just trying to help and save you time and money.

[ElliotWilliamp]

Basically a guy at the gym suggested this as a first cycle he did and got good gains from. He suggested the pyramidding. I can always cut back on the number of weeks in my final cycle plan.

Basically it's a test cycle I guess to see how I react to the steroids... I do understand u need test for optimum results, (thats why I asked if there was an oral form of test) and it would be something i would try on the next cycle.

[skinnystick]

Man, i know a few people that have done "dbol only cycles" they all lost the majority of their gains. Its a bull**** cycle, from the research ive done, the only worthwhile use for dbol is for a cycle kickstart. Alternatively, anavar or anadrol would be much better for kickstart IMO.

[Moose46]

Originally Posted by ElliotWilliamp

Basically a guy at the gym suggested this as a first cycle he did and got good gains from. He suggested the pyramidding. I can always cut back on the number of weeks in my final cycle plan.

Basically it's a test cycle I guess to see how I react to the steroids... I do understand u need test for optimum results, (thats why I asked if there was an oral form of test) and it would be something i would try on the next cycle.

im still against the dbol only cycle as you will see so are a lot of the guys on the boards. honestly bro, you need test and you wont have some freak side effects from it as you may think, maybe some minor acne at the most. if you decide to be ignorant and ignore quality advice atleast make sure you use liver supplements and run dbol (regardless of testosterone) no longer then 5-6 weeks.

[drolfreak]

Originally Posted by ElliotWilliamp

Basically a guy at the gym suggested this as a first cycle he did and got good gains from. He suggested the pyramidding. I can always cut back on the number of weeks in my final cycle plan.

Basically it's a test cycle I guess to see how I react to the steroids... I do understand u need test for optimum results, (thats why I asked if there was an oral form of test) and it would be something i would try on the next cycle.

If your looking for a test cycle to see how you react to steroids, do the right thing and use a low dose of test e, that will let you know how you react to steroids, and it will also give far better results than dbol only.

If you're too scared to inject (which is rather sad and means your not ready for any steroid cycle) and unwilling to give up on the idea of AAS you can get an oral form of test, its called andriol, and will cost you a small fortune, but it should improve results.

[ElliotWilliamp]

Originally Posted by drolfreak

If your looking for a test cycle to see how you react to steroids, do the right thing and use a low dose of test e, that will let you know how you react to steroids, and it will also give far better results than dbol only.

If you're too scared to inject (which is rather sad and means your not ready for any steroid cycle) and unwilling to give up on the idea of AAS you can get an oral form of test, its called andriol, and will cost you a small fortune, but it should improve results.

i'm not afraid to inject as such, i'm fine with needles, i just thought a more subtle start to my steroid cycles would be better for me (call it an British reserved thing :P)

I can always add the test tot he next cycle which is the plan, I mean I have all my life to figure out whats best...

Thaks ffor the oral test tip

[user178944]

to answer your question, you can stack a class I and CLass II So Dbol and anavar would be a good oral stack.

[PG]

Originally Posted by lancepimpdurmom

to answer your question, you can stack a class I and CLass II So Dbol and anavar would be a good oral stack.

Oral stacks are idiotic.

[ShortMonster]

Originally Posted by ElliotWilliamp

i'm not afraid to inject as such, i'm fine with needles, i just thought a more subtle start to my steroid cycles would be better for me (call it an British reserved thing :P)

I can always add the test tot he next cycle which is the plan, I mean I have all my life to figure out whats best...

Thaks ffor the oral test tip

No, no add test later, add test now then add the dbol later if anything, always use test as a base man, testosterone runs most of our body functions why would you put a derivative in your body with out testosterone?, you could be the one who gets ****ed up with out test, meaning no penis hardness. In my honest opinion stick with test only 350-500mg a week for 10-12 weeks.

[hutch42]

Originally Posted by ElliotWilliamp

Hi, considering my first cycle...

I was thinking about a D-Bol only cycle for 6-8 weeks pyramiding doses along the lines of (per week)

20
40
40
60
40
40
20

I know I need pct for afterwards and milk thistle before during and after the cycle.

The reason i want to try a D-bol only cycle is because I don't want to jump straight into injectables. I'd prob try those (if this cycle goes well) on the next.

My main question is, should or is there any other oral steroids I can take with the D-Bol to heighten the effects?

Any comments, support help welcome... just please make it constructive help.

Thanks
Elliot

Oral steroids are very toxic to your liver. Not only will you not keep most of your gains with a D-bol only cycle, your liver will hate you. Injecting seems like a lot worse because of all the media scorn but its a lot safer and much more effective. A test based cycle is the way to go.

[stocky-rocky]

i have friends who have done alot of dol only cycles and swear by them and they are huge i on the other hand would not do a dbol only cycle i would like every1 else add some test in there every time 500mg+ per wek with 50mg dbol p/d depending on how advanced you are

if you are even contenplating on doin a dbol only cycle it means you are obviously very new to the steroid world IMO and therefor need to do alotttttt more research 1st