Smokine/drinking while on PH cycle?

[kroniks]

I'm about to start a 6 week cycle of 1-AD/4-AD then 6-OXO, with some ZMA/Tribulus/milk thistle for PCT. I'm wondering if I can smoke weed or drink alcohol while on it. I'm trying to get the most gains and be able to keep my gains as well... I'm thinking of not drinking at all but smoking a lot more. Does weed really lower your test? Also do loratabs (hydrocodone) effect your muscles/mass gains at all?

[ILOVEBREASTS]

I'm about to start a 6 week cycle of 1-AD/4-AD then 6-OXO, with some ZMA/Tribulus/milk thistle for PCT. I'm wondering if I can smoke weed or drink alcohol while on it. I'm trying to get the most gains and be able to keep my gains as well... I'm thinking of not drinking at all but smoking a lot more. Does weed really lower your test? Also do loratabs (hydrocodone) effect your muscles/mass gains at all?

No offense man but I don't understand the mentality of people wanting to be hardcore enough to use PH/steriods and spending massive time preparing meals and gym time but then not willing to make the small sacrifice of not using weed or alchol. I wont pretend I know how much alchol and weed affects gains becuase Ive never looked into it but I know it will have some effect. Why bother risking wasting your time and gains by using this stuff. Either decide I want to get big or I want to go out and party.

[Pioneer]

No offense man but I don't understand the mentality of people wanting to be hardcore enough to use PH/steriods and spending massive time preparing meals and gym time but then not willing to make the small sacrifice of not using weed or alchol. I wont pretend I know how much alchol and weed affects gains becuase Ive never looked into it but I know it will have some effect. Why bother risking wasting your time and gains by using this stuff. Either decide I want to get big or I want to go out and party.

^^ perfect

also why bother risking your health? phs/gear is nothing to **** around with, why are you even thinking about this?

[kroniks]

Here's my list/routine logs -

1-AD: 300 mg/day
4-AD: 600 mg/day
Protein: 170 grams protein from food and shakes
Creatine: Recommend dose for CEE tablets
Calories: 3500/day
Carbs: 350g/day
Multi/BCAAs, & flax/fish oils also


Monday - Chest and Tris (flat bench, dumbell flys, incline press, cable crossovers, skullcrushers, tricep ext, dips)


Tuesday - Back and Bis (barbell/seated rows, close-grip overhand pull,
deadlift, Barbell or Dumbbell Curl, hammer curls, close grip chin up 6-10 in apart)


Wednesday - REST

Thursday - Legs (legpress/squat, donkey calf raises, hamstring pulls, glute press,
lunges)


Friday - Shoulders (dumbell/smith military press's, dumbell shrugs, cable shoulder pulls, shoulder dumbell butterfly raises)


Saturday - REST
Sunday - REST


ABS I work just about everyday either ball/weighted crunches, leg/knee raises, drop-weighted situps, etc)

[kroniks]

No offense man but I don't understand the mentality of people wanting to be hardcore enough to use PH/steriods and spending massive time preparing meals and gym time but then not willing to make the small sacrifice of not using weed or alchol. I wont pretend I know how much alchol and weed affects gains becuase Ive never looked into it but I know it will have some effect. Why bother risking wasting your time and gains by using this stuff. Either decide I want to get big or I want to go out and party.

I've actually made the decision of staying off it completely for the 6 weeks and PCT. It's hard for me when you are so used to partying all the time and all your friends are out partying/drinking/smoking just about every night.. I am determined though and will make this happen.

[PSKlifter]

Here's my list/routine logs -

1-AD: 300 mg/day
4-AD: 600 mg/day
Protein: 170 grams protein from food and shakes
Creatine: Recommend dose for CEE tablets
Calories: 3500/day
Carbs: 350g/day
Multi/BCAAs, & flax/fish oils also


Monday - Chest and Tris (flat bench, dumbell flys, incline press, cable crossovers, skullcrushers, tricep ext, dips)


Tuesday - Back and Bis (barbell/seated rows, close-grip overhand pull,
deadlift, Barbell or Dumbbell Curl, hammer curls, close grip chin up 6-10 in apart)


Wednesday - REST

Thursday - Legs (legpress/squat, donkey calf raises, hamstring pulls, glute press,
lunges)


Friday - Shoulders (dumbell/smith military press's, dumbell shrugs, cable shoulder pulls, shoulder dumbell butterfly raises)


Saturday - REST
Sunday - REST


ABS I work just about everyday either ball/weighted crunches, leg/knee raises, drop-weighted situps, etc)

i dont know your personal stats, but more than likely thats no where near enough protein. Also, yes weed lowers test levels. Alcohol is catabolic and can break down muscle tissue. While it wont kill you if you do both, its honestly a complete waste. Just choose one or the other.

[ILOVEBREASTS]

You routine and stack look pretty good though you could probably add another day of lifting when on. Also how much do you weigh? If over 150lbs then Id look to up your protien over 200 grams for sure. You will recover more quickly and use much more protien while using a PH. Also get some 6oxo at least for PCT if not nolvadex.

[NuggzTheNinja]

I'm about to start a 6 week cycle of 1-AD/4-AD then 6-OXO, with some ZMA/Tribulus/milk thistle for PCT. I'm wondering if I can smoke weed or drink alcohol while on it. I'm trying to get the most gains and be able to keep my gains as well... I'm thinking of not drinking at all but smoking a lot more. Does weed really lower your test? Also do loratabs (hydrocodone) effect your muscles/mass gains at all?

Weed might lower you test slightly by negative feedback, as it promotes estrogen, but I wouldn't worry about it.

Weed has been the only thing keeping me out of prison on my cycles.

Weed is also a vasodilator, allowing for more nutrients, oxygen, and blood to reach your muscles. It's good with your post-workout shake, if you're going to smoke.

Drinking on the other hand....DO NOT drink on your PH cycle.

Don't take pills either.

You either want to do drugs, or get big. You can't have both.

Your best option is pot, IMO it will actually help. Some ppl get appetite loss on juice, some ppl get a stronger appetite. Couldn't hurt.

[Mikey1]

I'm about to start a 6 week cycle of 1-AD/4-AD then 6-OXO, with some ZMA/Tribulus/milk thistle for PCT. I'm wondering if I can smoke weed or drink alcohol while on it. I'm trying to get the most gains and be able to keep my gains as well... I'm thinking of not drinking at all but smoking a lot more. Does weed really lower your test? Also do loratabs (hydrocodone) effect your muscles/mass gains at all?

SURE !!!!!

risk permanent and possibly fatal organ damage, just so you can go out and party

[pu12en12g]

Definately avoid the alcohol, IMO.

Weed is also a vasodilator, allowing for more nutrients, oxygen, and blood to reach your muscles. It's good with your post-workout shake, if you're going to smoke.

I don't know if this is true... but if it is... that kicks ass.

[wiseguy1111]

Besides the health risk I wonder how the lethargy is going to be. WOW.
Bad, Bad idea. Also, the most important thing here that people forget is we workout not only to look good but more important to be healthy. You don't want to do this.

[ILOVEBREASTS]

Weed might lower you test slightly by negative feedback, as it promotes estrogen, but I wouldn't worry about it.

Weed has been the only thing keeping me out of prison on my cycles.

Weed is also a vasodilator, allowing for more nutrients, oxygen, and blood to reach your muscles. It's good with your post-workout shake, if you're going to smoke.

Drinking on the other hand....DO NOT drink on your PH cycle.

Don't take pills either.

You either want to do drugs, or get big. You can't have both.

Your best option is pot, IMO it will actually help. Some ppl get appetite loss on juice, some ppl get a stronger appetite. Couldn't hurt.

How does weed keep you out of prison? And while I don't think weed is going to kill you a slightly lower test level would more then offest any gain from improved blood flow. When it comes to making big gains high test levels are king.

[pumped_up]

How does weed keep you out of prison? And while I don't think weed is going to kill you a slightly lower test level would more then offest any gain from improved blood flow. When it comes to making big gains high test levels are king.

weed makes you chill out so when he's on a cycle, he will smoke pot so he doesn't choke a bitch

[kasso99]

You either want to do drugs, or get big. You can't have both.

Your best option is pot, IMO it will actually help

I forget what THC is exactly, some kind of supplement? It wouldn't be a drug, would it??!?!

[ILOVEBREASTS]

weed makes you chill out so when he's on a cycle, he will smoke pot so he doesn't choke a bitch

ha, there are definetly times I want to break **** coming out of the gym cause Im so pumped up.

[NuggzTheNinja]

How does weed keep you out of prison? And while I don't think weed is going to kill you a slightly lower test level would more then offest any gain from improved blood flow. When it comes to making big gains high test levels are king.

Is Wayne Brady...gonna have to...choke a b-tch?

[Pioneer]

Is Wayne Brady...gonna have to...choke a b-tch?

that was the BEST episode.