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Ask me ?'s
Just thought I'd see how I might hold up...I'd like to think I'm pretty knowledgeable...try me.
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09-07-2007, 10:19 PM
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um...ask you what?
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09-07-2007, 10:20 PM
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um...ask you what?
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strong first question ?
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09-07-2007, 10:20 PM
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um...ask you what?
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question's pertaining to bbing
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09-07-2007, 10:21 PM
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strong first question ?
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question's pertaining to bbing
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lmao okay, I'll bite:
What is your opinion on Beta-Alanine supplementation?
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09-07-2007, 10:23 PM
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Have you ever been able to suck ur own penis?
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09-07-2007, 10:24 PM
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lmao okay, I'll bite:
What is your opinion on Beta-Alanine supplementation?
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I don't think it's necessary...if you're asking for bbers in general it's still not necessary, for 14 years old it definitely isn't...
even if you did want to supplement with it it'd be a waste of money because you get it in beef, pork, chicken, etc...I don't advocate supplementation of anything besides creatine, protein, multi's, and EFA's unless your diet is almost flawless.
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09-07-2007, 10:25 PM
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Have you ever been able to suck ur own penis?
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Judging from your name, I'm guessing you have?
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09-07-2007, 10:26 PM
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I don't think it's necessary...if you're asking for bbers in general it's still not necessary, for 14 years old it definitely isn't...
even if you did want to supplement with it it'd be a waste of money because you get it in beef, pork, chicken, etc...I don't advocate supplementation of anything besides creatine, protein, multi's, and EFA's unless your diet is almost flawless.
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Nah I didn't mean for my age I meant in general. I would rather spend my money on ultra peptide than on beta alanine.
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09-07-2007, 10:26 PM
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lmao okay, I'll bite:
What is your opinion on Beta-Alanine supplementation?
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here's something i wrote for one of my classes.
Effect of Creatine and ?-Alanine Supplementation on Performance and Endocrine Responses in Strength/Power Athletes
Summary
Creatine is easily one of the most studied ergogenic aids known to man. We know just about everything we need to as far as its performance and body composition effects. ?-Alanine is a relatively new supplement that has been recently used in creatine products to enhance creatine?s effects. ?-Alanine has been shown to increase muscle carnosine levels. Carnosine increases buffering capacity during high-intensity exercise.
The hypothesis of this study is that because ?-Alanine increases carnosine levels, it should have a positive effect on performance when combined with creatine more so than just creatine by itself.
Thirty three male collegiate football players were used as test subjects in this experiment. They were split into three groups, a creatine and ?-Alanine group (CA), a creatine group, and a placebo group. The test lasted for ten weeks and each subject was on the same resistance training schedule, which consisted of mainly compound movements split into 4 separate days training each muscle twice a week.
Each subject was tested with a DEXA scan to determine their body composition. To determine power each subject performed a 1-RM squat and bench press. TO determine anaerobic power each subject performed a wingate power test and a twenty jump power test. Diet was monitored three times a week recording each subject caloric intake and macronutrient breakdown.
There was no significant change in body mass of either group, but the CA group showed a significant drop in % body fat and a significant increase in lean body mass compared to the placebo group. All groups showed a significant increase in 1-RM squat and bench, but the CA group was two times higher than the placebo group and the creatine group was 2.5 times higher than the placebo group. There was no significant change in anaerobic power in between groups. And lastly the CA group showed an increased training volume capacity compared to other groups.
Discussion
The results of this study show a very positive effect of supplementation of ?-Alanine with creatine. The only flaw seen is that total increase in 1-RM was slightly smaller in the CA group. This could have been due to other factors such as diet or sleep patterns, but more studies need to be done to conclude whether it interferes with strength increase caused by creatine. That might turn you off from this supplement if you rely completely on strength. On the other hand if you are a bodybuilder ?-Alanine could prove to be very useful because of its effects seen on body composition in this study. One strange result of this study was that there was no increase in anaerobic power, because in past studies creatine has been shown to increase it.
more and more studies are coming up about it being "the next creatine"
bb.com sucks so ?-alanine is supposed ot be beta alanine
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09-07-2007, 10:27 PM
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Do you touch yourself at night?
Okay i'll give you a serious question?
This is more of an opinion question. Do you think supplements do anything for people that are just starting out, and when i say starting out, i mean haven't ever touched a weight before in their life. So in general, do you think that a 13-14 year old kid starting out in bbing would benefit at all from supplementation, or would just be wasting their money?
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09-07-2007, 10:27 PM
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Nah I didn't mean for my age I meant in general. I would rather spend my money on ultra peptide than on beta alanine.
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In general, no. I can suggest what you guys should do but I can't make you, if the diet isn't perfect(6 square meals a day), I suggest no supplementation whatsoever because you're shortchanging yourself by cheating on your diet(the most important part of growing.)
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09-07-2007, 10:29 PM
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I haven't tried it but I've heard good things about both...for you, with your physique it looks like you're fairly advanced so I'd say go ahead and give both a whirl...I was going to start supplementing with NO-Xplod but I'm going to give the universal stuff a try instead(more bang for the buck and according to people's logs i've read better results.)
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09-07-2007, 10:32 PM
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if im using the six star creatine(from wal mart) and i wanna switch to pure creatine monohydrite when i finish the first tub do i have to do the loading phase again or can i go strait to the creatine monohydrite since ther not too much different.
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Do you touch yourself at night?
Okay i'll give you a serious question?
This is more of an opinion question. Do you think supplements do anything for people that are just starting out, and when i say starting out, i mean haven't ever touched a weight before in their life. So in general, do you think that a 13-14 year old kid starting out in bbing would benefit at all from supplementation, or would just be wasting their money?
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I think that with the 20-25 bucks they spend on protein they could be building their bodies with real food(except PWO, in which case whey protein IMO is a necessity.) A box of brown rice, some natty peanut butter, tuna, chicken breasts, and cottage cheese you could be getting for that 20-25 bucks. So, to answer your question in short, no..I think supps are a waste of money except for the multi, EFA's, and protein( andcreatine if they're more experienced.) I have gone the last 4 months without whey and I'm starting to notice the difference between when I have a shake after my workout and when I don't.
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09-07-2007, 10:34 PM
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if im using the six star creatine(from wal mart) and i wanna switch to pure creatine monohydritewhen i finish the tub do i have to do the loading phase again or can i go strait to the creatine monohydrite since ther not too much different.
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The loading phase is entirely unnecessary. Props to wally world for attempting to make a step into the fitness world but stick to bb.com. I remember hearing about a whey protein, multi vitamin, fish oil, and creatine combo pack that you could buy for pretty cheap on bb.com, go that route.
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I haven't tried it but I've heard good things about both...for you, with your physique it looks like you're fairly advanced so I'd say go ahead and give both a whirl...I was going to start supplementing with NO-Xplod but I'm going to give the universal stuff a try instead(more bang for the buck and according to people's logs i've read better results.)
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me not even closed to advanced i'm just some teen with low bodyfat... thanks for ego boost though
Can't beat the shock therapy's price per serving
but by the ingridients inside the products do you think there effecteve
i was having trouble between buying the Storm or creatine mono hydrate because whats the difference...
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The loading phase is entirely unnecessary. Props to wally world for attempting to make a step into the fitness world but stick to bb.com. I remember hearing about a whey protein, multi vitamin, fish oil, and creatine combo pack that you could buy for pretty cheap on bb.com, go that route.
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thanks!
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me not even closed to advanced i'm just some teen with low bodyfat... thanks for ego boost though
Can't beat the shock therapy's price per serving
but by the ingridients inside the products do you think there effecteve
i was having trouble between buying the Storm or creatine mono hydrate because whats the difference...
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yes, the storm says it has 4 different kinds of creatine in there(including your monohydrate.) A fair share of amino acids and the iNoxsulin-7 ingredient that supposedly speeds up absorption, i don't know too much about the inoxsulin-7 but I do know that l-arginine has helped give me the pump of a lifetime when i used it a couple times. To put it short, bro..I haven't used it first-hand but I've heard plenty of people recommend it highly on here..it passes my sniff test so that's why I'm going to recommend it to you.
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yes, the storm says it has 4 different kinds of creatine in there(including your monohydrate.) A fair share of amino acids and the iNoxsulin-7 ingredient that supposedly speeds up absorption, i don't know too much about the inoxsulin-7 but I do know that l-arginine has helped give me the pump of a lifetime when i used it a couple times. To put it short, bro..I haven't used it first-hand but I've heard plenty of people recommend it highly on here..it passes my sniff test so that's why I'm going to recommend it to you.
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kool should be here monda
ill be waiting foir the ups guy all day... then go workout
monday is first day back to the gym had this week of
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My next stack will be citrulline malate, beta-alanine and creatine monohydrate. I have heard great stuff about all three- and effectiveness in athletic performance aswell.
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LOLOLOL hell fukin naw..
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are there any supplements you strongly recommend that have given you really good results?
right now all i've taken is on whey protein. i tried creatine mono for a week but it gave me diarrhea and stomach upset (maybe it was the brand though, it was pretty cheap).
thanks.
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Do u think glutamien will make any difference?
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09-07-2007, 11:08 PM
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Hey hulk, big fan of you and kvkx. Good bodies!
Here's my question.
I'm cutting at the moment to get to the single digit mark (will find out my body fat tueday) and then clean bulk for 2 years.
Is two years too long?
Reason im cutting now is because I dirty bulked and I want to start fresh and I dont see why you should bulk and cut for short amount of time. What is your opinion dude.
Thanks.
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are there any supplements you strongly recommend that have given you really good results?
right now all i've taken is on whey protein. i tried creatine mono for a week but it gave me diarrhea and stomach upset (maybe it was the brand though, it was pretty cheap).
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Well, since a supplement is anything that you add onto your bodybuilding lifestyle I'd recommend hard work. Hard work is my supplement. In the words of Layne Norton, "I wanna make sure that if someone does beat me, it's not because they outworked me"
Some people find that if you take creatine with carbs it can cause diarrhea..I remember getting it from taking the walmart body fortress kind.
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Depends how hard you're hitting the weights...if you're being a vagina in the weightroom doing pecker curls and bench press all day, then no. Some people advocate glutamine, some don't. I've tried it before and have noticed some good things about it, so yeah, I'll recommend it.
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Hey hulk, big fan of you and kvkx. Good bodies!
Here's my question.
I'm cutting at the moment to get to the single digit mark (will find out my body fat tueday) and then clean bulk for 2 years.
Is two years too long?
Reason im cutting now is because I dirty bulked and I want to start fresh and I dont see why you should bulk and cut for short amount of time. What is your opinion dude.
Thanks.
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I would think that two years is a little extreme because even if you are clean bulking you'll notice that you will gain some fat and two years is a long time...I, myself, don't ever have a "designated" cutting time there are just sometimes when I eat more protein than other days and that's what I consider my "cutting" diet. But, to answer your question in short, yes, I believe that is too long just because of the fat gains you will have...if you really want to do the 2 year plan then just throw in some extra cardio during certain times of the year to make sure you're getting in some aerobic activity.
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OK
How do I fix my shoulder posture, my shoulders round forward and I cant properly retract my scapula. Im also getting constant tension headaches in the back of my head, I also cant seem to properly shrug, is this a cause of overly tight levator scapulaes or are my traps and rhomboids limiting the scapular subtractor from the correct motion?
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My knee has been hurting lately, could it be because of a medialus/lateralis imbalanement? What kind of therapy would you reccomend, general rolling or specific trigger point? Is it safe to to do a press on the knee ligaments?
Ills ee what else I can come up with
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