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09-06-2007, 11:10 PM
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So I'm looking at Halodrol Liguigels...
...And I'm looking at the ingredient profile, which includes Arachadonic acid, 6oxo, DHEA, and 3,4 divanilltetrahydrofuran. So I did a little math on the effective doses of each ingredient, based on each component found in X-factor, 6oxo, and Activate. I'm skipping the DHEA for purposes of this analysis.
So here's the breakdown:
250 mg Arachadonic acid
300 mg 6oxo
400 mg 3,4 divanilltetrahydrofuran
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950 mg Total
Compare this to HLG providing 480mg of a proprietary blend; about half the above total.
I understand there is some degree of synergy between the ingredients as well as the addition of DHEA to consider, but do the HLGs provide effective doses considering the above math doesn't add up?
I want to go out of my way here to say this isn't a snip at Gaspari, but rather an honest question/concern from a potential customer. I'm hoping to gain a bit of insight and an understanding of how the effective doses were calculated (understanding that there's an interest in keeping a proprietary formula just that).
Thanks in advance for replies, reps and boardmates.
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09-06-2007, 11:19 PM
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Anyone else find this strange?
Warnings: Consult a physician before use. Do not use this product if you are pregnant or lactating, have a medical condition, or are taking prescription medications. Not intended for use by persons under 40.Exceeding recommended serving may cause serious adverse health effects. Discontinue use and call a physician if you experience and side effects
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09-06-2007, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by envythahustla
Anyone else find this strange?
Warnings: Consult a physician before use. Do not use this product if you are pregnant or lactating, have a medical condition, or are taking prescription medications. Not intended for use by persons under 40.Exceeding recommended serving may cause serious adverse health effects. Discontinue use and call a physician if you experience and side effects
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Where did you read that?
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09-06-2007, 11:21 PM
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wow...i thought envy was being sarcastic when he said "not intended for people under 40."...turns out it actually says that.
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09-06-2007, 11:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deserusan
Where did you read that?
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Halodrol Liquidgels write-up on BB.com.
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09-06-2007, 11:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by envythahustla
Halodrol Liquidgels write-up on BB.com.
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It's a typo. Anything else you find strange?
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09-06-2007, 11:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ericgonzalez
...And I'm looking at the ingredient profile, which includes Arachadonic acid, 6oxo, DHEA, and 3,4 divanilltetrahydrofuran. So I did a little math on the effective doses of each ingredient, based on each component found in X-factor, 6oxo, and Activate. I'm skipping the DHEA for purposes of this analysis.
So here's the breakdown:
250 mg Arachadonic acid
300 mg 6oxo
400 mg 3,4 divanilltetrahydrofuran
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950 mg Total
Compare this to HLG providing 480mg of a proprietary blend; about half the above total.
I understand there is some degree of synergy between the ingredients as well as the addition of DHEA to consider, but do the HLGs provide effective doses considering the above math doesn't add up?
I want to go out of my way here to say this isn't a snip at Gaspari, but rather an honest question/concern from a potential customer. I'm hoping to gain a bit of insight and an understanding of how the effective doses were calculated (understanding that there's an interest in keeping a proprietary formula just that).
Thanks in advance for replies, reps and boardmates.
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Eric,
You are supposed to take three gels a day.
EDIT: I also wasn't aware of the typos which will be corrected.
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Last edited by deserusan; 09-06-2007 at 11:27 PM.
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09-06-2007, 11:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by envythahustla
Halodrol Liquidgels write-up on BB.com.
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envy believe everything he reads
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09-06-2007, 11:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deserusan
It's a typo. Anything else you find strange?
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Now that you mention it....If HLG contains 60 caps per package then what is up with this?
Directions: Take 1 gelcap daily. After 6 weeks of continual use, a 30 day cessation period is recommended. Users of this product should consume at least 64 ounces of water per day. Do not exceed suggested daily dose
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09-06-2007, 11:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ericgonzalez
...And I'm looking at the ingredient profile, which includes Arachadonic acid, 6oxo, DHEA, and 3,4 divanilltetrahydrofuran. So I did a little math on the effective doses of each ingredient, based on each component found in X-factor, 6oxo, and Activate. I'm skipping the DHEA for purposes of this analysis.
So here's the breakdown:
250 mg Arachadonic acid
300 mg 6oxo
400 mg 3,4 divanilltetrahydrofuran
--------
950 mg Total
Compare this to HLG providing 480mg of a proprietary blend; about half the above total.
I understand there is some degree of synergy between the ingredients as well as the addition of DHEA to consider, but do the HLGs provide effective doses considering the above math doesn't add up?
I want to go out of my way here to say this isn't a snip at Gaspari, but rather an honest question/concern from a potential customer. I'm hoping to gain a bit of insight and an understanding of how the effective doses were calculated (understanding that there's an interest in keeping a proprietary formula just that).
Thanks in advance for replies, reps and boardmates.
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Eric
its 480mg per cap and the directions say to take 3 gelcaps daily
so 480mg x 3 = 1.440g
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09-06-2007, 11:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by envythahustla
Now that you mention it....If HLG contains 60 caps per package then what is up with this?
Directions: Take 1 gelcap daily. After 6 weeks of continual use, a 30 day cessation period is recommended. Users of this product should consume at least 64 ounces of water per day. Do not exceed suggested daily dose
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Are you asking because you are truly interested? Think about it.... To answer your question, you need two boxes for a full cycle. Anything else?
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09-06-2007, 11:45 PM
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Bump for anymore questions.
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09-06-2007, 11:56 PM
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Aha! Those crafty typomeisters almost had me!
Thanks for the quick reply Des. I think I will give it a shot.
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09-06-2007, 11:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zachattack43
Eric
its 480mg per cap and the directions say to take 3 gelcaps daily
so 480mg x 3 = 1.440g
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Yep, that makes prefect sense. What threw me for a loop is that bb.com has this on the product:
Directions: Take 1 gelcap daily. After 6 weeks of continual use, a 30 day cessation period is recommended. Users of this product should consume at least 64 ounces of water per day. Do not exceed suggested daily dose.
Thanks
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09-07-2007, 12:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deserusan
Are you asking because you are truly interested? Think about it.... To answer your question, you need two boxes for a full cycle. Anything else?
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Hmmm...that response sounded a little snappy. Did you mean to come off that way?
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09-07-2007, 12:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by envythahustla
Hmmm...that response sounded a little snappy. Did you mean to come off that way?
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I was trying to offer you two free boxes.
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09-07-2007, 12:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deserusan
I was trying to offer you two free boxes. 
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09-07-2007, 12:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deserusan
I was trying to offer you two free boxes. 
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Originally Posted by envythahustla
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looks like he passed it up....send them my way
i thought the same as the OP a while ago.....did the math and found out about teh "real" way to dose.... gunna super stack this with something real soon.
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