SMOLOV jr. For Deadlifts?

[Lavoisier]

OKay, so I looked at other routines, but I could not understand COAN and PHILIPPI at all, and I have had success with it so far for squats...

But I see most people deadlifting in lower rep ranges (except that one crasy guy who did 20 reps with 500 pounds, I forget his name) anyway:

Mon - 6x6x70%
Wed - 7x5x75%
Fri - 8x4x80%
Sat - 10x3x85%
Week 2
Mon - 6x6x70%+10-20 lbs (bigger increase for bigger lift like squats)
Wed - 7x5x75%+10-20 lbs
Fri - 8x4x80%+10-20 lbs
Sat - 10x3x85%+10-20 lbs
Week 3
Mon - 6x6x70%+15-25 lbs
Wed - 7x5x75%+15-25 lbs
Fri - 8x4x80%+15-25 lbs
Sat - 10x3x85%+15-25 lbs

What do you think?

Or can you recommend another routine?

Or make sense of Coan and Phillippi?

[FROGGBUSTER]

i don't think you can train that intensely and that frequently with deadlifts - it'll probably kill your lower back.

[Lavoisier]

i don't think you can train that intensely and that frequently with deadlifts - it'll probably kill your lower back.

Yeah that's what I was afraid of...

[shffl]

what couldn't you understand about coan phillipi?

[Mike Zero]

what couldn't you understand about coan phillipi?

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http://tsampa.org/training/scripts/c...lipi_deadlift/

A good page, type in your current and desired max and it tells you exactly what exercises/weight/sets/reps to do.

[Lavoisier]

what couldn't you understand about coan phillipi?

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http://tsampa.org/training/scripts/c...lipi_deadlift/

A good page, type in your current and desired max and it tells you exactly what exercises/weight/sets/reps to do.

What I don't understand is that it bases the percentages on my desired max. And for example, if my desired max is, say 300 pounds and my actual max is ~150 it tells me to rep like 225, which would be impossible if my max was 150...See what I mean?

[olympic]

Your setting your max way too high is the issue.

Also if your max is 150 in any of the big 3 you have no business doing a cycle such as that. Just keep increasing the weight week to week, focus on the basics and you'll make far faster progress.

After doing a number of such cycles (smolov, Korte, Sheiko) I have come to the conclusion that they are best left to the advanced lifters... lifters with AT LEAST class 1 status or greater. Prior to that just doing squats, benches and deadlifts using linear progression is far faster progress.

[Lavoisier]

Your setting your max way too high is the issue.

Also if your max is 150 in any of the big 3 you have no business doing a cycle such as that. Just keep increasing the weight week to week, focus on the basics and you'll make far faster progress.

After doing a number of such cycles (smolov, Korte, Sheiko) I have come to the conclusion that they are best left to the advanced lifters... lifters with AT LEAST class 1 status or greater. Prior to that just doing squats, benches and deadlifts using linear progression is far faster progress.

NO no my max isn't that low I just picked that number because it's easy to work with. At the same time, I doubt I am anywhere near class one. So...


Maybe I'll do the deadlift portion of 5x5. Sound good?

[olympic]

NO no my max isn't that low I just picked that number because it's easy to work with. At the same time, I doubt I am anywhere near class one. So...


Maybe I'll do the deadlift portion of 5x5. Sound good?

Yeah that sounds much better.

[Lavoisier]

Yeah that sounds much better.

Hell I might was well do the entire 5x5, it sounds good. THanks for your help.

[shffl]

What I don't understand is that it bases the percentages on my desired max. And for example, if my desired max is, say 300 pounds and my actual max is ~150 it tells me to rep like 225, which would be impossible if my max was 150...See what I mean?

well the entire thing is like .. 10-12 weeks? you want to input your desire max to be something more realistic. most ppl that used it fine that a 40 - 50lb increase works well.