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    Question When do you think people should start taking growth hormone precursers?

    When you get older your body stops producing growth hormone, what age should you start taking Hgh precursers to increase growth?
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    like when your 28 or so most people take it at like 30s
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    The problem with PH (I've taken andro) is the almost total loss of libio. Nothing worse then having your Wife feeling sexy and not being able to get hard...
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    Are hgh precursors worth anything? I don't believe so.
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    Originally Posted by Sampson87
    When you get older your body stops producing growth hormone, what age should you start taking Hgh precursers to increase growth?
    You don't stop. You merely produce less.
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    Originally Posted by Sampson87
    When you get older your body stops producing growth hormone, what age should you start taking Hgh precursers to increase growth?
    Start taking them when you want to deplete your bank account and have nothing to show for it.

    Sorry, just being a little smart-ass.

    Seriously, they're bogus and a waste of money. If they worked, they'd be flying off the shelves and anyone over 30-40 and working out would be like a 20 year old.

    Really, forget about them.
    They say abs are made in the kitchen, but I don't know if that's true. I'm always in the kitchen and I ain't seen no abs yet.
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    I did not think you were being a smartass.
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    Any good substitute for Andro? I loved the stuff but am confused about what is currently out there that is compatible.
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    Originally Posted by lucubration.
    You don't stop. You merely produce less.
    Only if you act like an old fart though and don't lift.
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    My 65 year old husband has been taking HGH for the past few years and swears by it (pill form) He is a traditional historical swordsmith (coalfired forge, anvil/hammer) of 50 years experience. When taking them, he has less aches and pains with better muscle tone. Started out taking the Ultimate HGH at the time.

    He even badgered me into trying it out even though I told him that lifting moderately heavy weights does help the body produce the GH better. Well, I did first first time for about five months and it did give me more energy with fewer aches while lifting. Recovery was faster. Being 53 and post menopausal, my skin was getting thinner and the HGH was firming it back. There were other benefits too but there was a down side as well. It is a natural steriod and by taking 4 tablets aday with no break, I was beginning to feel edgy all the time. Was getting angry quicker and started feeling some bloating. Also I found myself getting an gutache after eating some foods where it did not happen before. Now, he had no such symptoms. But I just plain had to stop it. I could not keep feeling this "edgyness" although it did help the lifts. I dont know if the combination of lifting, that helps keep normal GH production up, and taking the pills was too much of a good thing.

    When I went off it, there was some "tiredness" for a day or so but the "edgyness/anger" went away quickly. Only after I stopped lifting for about six months did the usual age/arthritis aches and pains show up. I missed my workouts and finally went back to them last week after dropping them about five months ago.

    Now it could have been from taking four pills instead of three. Also I am 5'6" and lighter than my husband. Maybe it's because I am a post menopausal woman and all the commericals are aimed at men....since there are more medical reports using men than women about this at the time. Actually I found only one report where a group of women used this with varying results. Most others were men.

    In anycase, after a year of being without it. I have tried it again on his insistance....he thought I was getting too "dried up" without it. My skin was getting thinner and was feeling the aches more. So I figured why not ....with some changes. The new stuff is from a different company and I only take three pills and will stop for a couple of days after a two week continuous schedule. No edgyness, no quick anger but feeling all the other good benefits. So I must be doing something right this time.

    I guess it depends on the person and their age...and perhaps, gender.
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    Originally Posted by Laurie
    My 65 year old husband has been taking HGH for the past few years and swears by it (pill form)
    I always say caveat emptor, because more often than not, these products usually don't work. But if it's working for you, that's excellent.

    Just keep in mind that it is not true human growth hormone, but probably a precusor composed of amino acids and other items that are supposed to stimulate production of growth hormone. True human growth hormone cannot be ingested. Like insulin, it has to be injected. Both insulin and hgh are protein hormones (something like 190 amino acid chain). They would be digested in the stomach like any other protein before they could do their jobs.

    But the side effects you describe are not consistent with human growth hormone. It is not a steroid, so it doesn't have the same effects as anabolic steroids (apart from tissue growth). It may be a DHEA product that is labeled as human growth hormone. DHEA converts to both testosterone and estrogen. The side effects you mentioned are consistent with testosterone/estrogen imbalance.

    I may get flamed for this, but this is why otc prohormones and precusors are not such a good thing. You really don't knnow what you are getting, nor are blood levels of hormones monitored by a doctor. In case anyone hasn't figured it out yet, I am pretty much anti-self medicating and tinkering with the hormonal balance. Been there, done that, had problems.
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    Just keep in mind that it is not true human growth hormone, but probably a precusor composed of amino acids and other items that are supposed to stimulate production of growth hormone. True human growth hormone.....
    Yes, that is what it is touted as. To help stimulate more of the body's own production of the GH.

    But the side effects you describe are not consistent with human growth hormone. It is not a steroid, so it doesn't have the same effects as anabolic steroids (apart from tissue growth). It may be a DHEA product that is labeled as human growth hormone. DHEA converts to both testosterone and estrogen. The side effects you mentioned are consistent with testosterone/estrogen imbalance
    Umm..... I have been post menopausal since my early 40s. but I never went through the usual symptoms of night sweats, hot flashes or anything like that. About all I had was an increased feeling of energy for the most part. During the early part, I used to get angry easily but this did not last long. Figured it was just from the shifting of hormones. By nature, I am pretty easy going but do have an Irish temper that does not last long. The HGH symptoms made that different and, as said above, just did not like that part of it.

    My husband is Type 2 diabetic but did not know it for many years. He was the one who got angry at the drop of a hat from that hormonal roller coaster. He found out and took control of it about a year before I went through my change. So what immediate anger I sometimes went through then at him.....well, there were past issues caused by his problem that I had kept inside. That we finally knew what his problem was and that he took control to change it made life alot easier. However, we knew I was going through Menopause and was able to deal with it.

    So what you are saying, the DHEA was causing too much testosterone production in my system? Estrogen levels are lowered after menopause and women do produce some testosterone anyway. Just not as much as the guys.
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    Originally Posted by Laurie
    So what you are saying, the DHEA was causing too much testosterone production in my system? Estrogen levels are lowered after menopause and women do produce some testosterone anyway. Just not as much as the guys.
    Yes, that is very possibly what happened. There's no way to know which way DHEA will convert in either men or women. Instead of converting to estrogen in women, it can convert to testosterone; instead of converting to testosterone in men it can convert to estrogen. On the other hand, it can convert to testosterone in men and estrogen in women. There is no way to know what it will do.
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    Thanks Minotaur.

    I have kept to the "three pills" and off days schedule with no bad effects as before. The good effects are there, so guess your observations must be it.
    At least for me.
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    OK, good. Like anything else, just see what works!
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