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    This is an exerpt from the Australian Homo Optimus Association website, check it out and let me know what do you think about it ?

    About Optimal Nutrition

    The Optimal Nutrition is not a form of medical treatment. It is the correct nutritional supply template of all the necessary nutritional elements needed by the body in order to sustain a healthy life. Diseased individuals who adopt this type of nutrition quickly return to health, regardless of the type of disease, since the diet does not treat the particular disease, as does a pill or a specific treatment.

    The causal treatment associated with the Optimal Nutrition is based on the delivery of the most important nutritional elements, e.g., the most valuable proteins and fats, whilst leaving the body in charge of the distribution of these elements to the most critical areas. Thus, the Optimal Nutrition firstly treats the underlying disease and then subsequently (rapidly) removes the burden of unnecessary body weight, whilst increasing the strength, the energy, the resistance and the vitality of the body. And that is how the principles of the therapeutic function of this diet should be understood.


    Therefore, this type of diet, or rather a healthy eating habit, can and should be adopted by sick and healthy individuals. Various disease states, which can be corrected (and in many cases cured) by the Optimal Nutrition are described below.


    The Principles of Optimal Nutrition


    The main principle of this dietary model is a marked increase in the consumption of fat, and the reduction in the consumption carbohydrate, as the energy source for the body. There are, however, strict rules on the proportion between the three main food components: protein (P), fat (F) and carbohydrates (C) which need to be followed (with few exceptions) in order to achieve claimed benefits of Optimal Nutrition.


    The ideal proportion between the main food components should be in the range of :

    1 (P) : 2.5 - 3,5 (F) : 0.5 - 0.8 (C)

    NOTE : During the first stages, obese people should use 1:2.0(max):0.5

    In order to work out the correct daily food intake using this proportion, one has to know how many grams of protein needs to be ingested in a day to satisfy body's requirements. This amount varies from person to person and depends on a "ideal bodyweight". Ideal bodyweight, in kilograms, is equal to person's height in centimeters less 100 (± 10%). Thus, for a person 160 cm tall, an ideal body weight is 60 kg ± 6 kg.


    A correct amount of protein to be consumed in a day is approx. 1 g per 1 kilogram of an ideal bodyweight. Thus, a 60 kg person needs to consume 60 ± 6 g of protein to satisfy body's daily needs. Any excess of protein, above the daily requirement, is converted by the body to fat, provided that energy requirements are met by other components. (Note: with time, metabolic processes will become so efficient that the amount of protein should be reduced to approx. 0.6 to 0.8g/kg )


    Having worked out the amount of protein, one can then calculate the amount of other components in a daily menu. Thus, for our typical 60 kg person, the consumption of 60 g of protein has to be accompanied by between 150 to 210 g of fat, and 30 to 50 g of carbohydrate in order to follow the principles of the Optimal Diet.

    Any excess of carbohydrate, above the daily requirement (needed to prevent ketosis), is converted by the body to fat, provided energy requirements are met by other components. The main exception from that rule is the state of obesity. In such a case, the proportion between protein and fat should be changed to 1 (p) : 2 (f) in the initial period of 3-4 weeks (by the increase in protein and the reduction in fat intake), in order to stimulate the catabolism of the stored fat. The amount of carbohydrate should be kept low, preferably at no more then 50 g/day. Subsequently, when the weight loss is well on the way, the amounts of protein and fat can be adjusted to the ideal proportion.

    The best products to be eaten while on the Optimal Nutrition are animal-sourced products, including eggs, cheeses, cream, meats, and all types of animal fat. The best fats are saturated ones, however, vegetable oil rich in monounsaturated fats (e.g. olive oil, or some nut oils) are also good. Products containing predominantly or exclusively polyunsaturated fats or trans-saturated fats (i.e. margarine) should be avoided because of deleterious effect on health.
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    I weigh 84 kg. So I should consume only 84g of protein, 210 g of fat, and only 67g of carbs. This leads me to:
    336 cals from protein
    1890 cals from fat
    268 cals from carbs

    I think I'll stick to my ~40/40/20 diet.
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    Originally Posted by Merham
    Any excess of protein, above the daily requirement, is converted by the body to fat, provided that energy requirements are met by other components.

    Any excess of carbohydrate, above the daily requirement (needed to prevent ketosis), is converted by the body to fat, provided energy requirements are met by other components.
    These statements, and thus the entire principle of the diet and its high fat recommendations are completely meaningless due to the part in bold. You could substitute "fat" for "protein" or "carbohydrate" and the statement would still be true and would "prove" the opposite point. In other words, this diet is BS.
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    Originally Posted by Merham
    Thus, for our typical 60 kg person, the consumption of 60 g of protein has to be accompanied by between 150 to 210 g of fat, and 30 to 50 g of carbohydrate in order to follow the principles of the Optimal Diet.
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    The argument that any carbs over the amount needed to keep you out of ketosis will be stored as fat is absolutely rediculous and unfounded. If the argument were true, everyone on a 40/40/20 (or remotely close to this) would be storing fat with the extra carbs and protein.

    To repeat what was said before, this diet is BS.
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    did anyone see the "teaser" for monday's CBS Evening
    News that said "Eat high fat and lose weight? Did anyone watch this?

    Here's the link: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in683605.shtml


    Quote"CBS) From decadent jelly-filled paczkis to savory fat-saturated
    kielbasas, Polish cuisine has never been regarded as health food.

    But, as CBS News Correspondent Cynthia Bowers reports, what a
    nutritionist would call a recipe for heart attacks is just what one
    doctor ordered for Izabela Strepak.

    She went from a size 14 to a size 4.

    "I guess that's a lot," she says.

    She lost a lot by eating a lot - a steady diet of lard, cream and
    fatty meats. It's a diet she's convinced keeps her lean and healthy.

    "We have in our heads - our brain - that fat is bad for you," says
    Strepak. "Fat is good for you, actually."

    The "fit through fat" idea comes from Poland and Dr. Jan Kwasniewski.
    After decades of working as a dietician in a military hospital, he
    wrote a book called the "Optimal Diet," an even higher-fat, low-carb
    Atkins-like regimen. He said the diet works because the animal fat
    provides energy.

    He's talking about eating 250 grams per day, three times more than
    most health guidelines. To eat that much you have to start early.
    Breakfast would require a four egg-yolk omelet cooked in lard, a side
    of bacon and sausage, toast bathed in butter - all washed down with a
    cup of heavy whipping cream. And that's just a third of your fat goal.

    In what passes for the diet's American headquarters - a small market
    in a heavily Polish Chicago neighborhood - Tomasz Zielinski sells
    everything you need for the Optimal lifestyle: veal brains in aspic
    (14 percent fat), spicy lard (62 percent fat) and bread (43 percent fat).

    Lucyna Biganski says she could barely walk before she started the diet.

    "It's a change of style of life," she says. "It's not only for a week
    (or) a month.

    "You lose weight, you feel better - that's it."

    With only a handful of followers in the U.S., don't look for the
    Optimal diet to replace South Beach or Atkins anytime soon. While
    cardiologists cringe, if you believe the faithful and can stomach it,
    fat may be a new fad." unquote.
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