Dips or Decline Flys for lower chest? i need to round more my bottom chest
thx for the help
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03-26-2005, 08:12 PM #10
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03-26-2005, 08:16 PM #11
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Overhand dips are now my favorite mass builder for the chest. Even more than my beloved declines. I did HEAVY weighted dips for years using conventional shoulder width, neutral grip which never did **** for my chest.
But once I started going slightly wider than shoulder width and using an overhand grip, wham! My chest is developing nicely now.
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Originally Posted by DiamondDelts"Franco is pretty smart, but Franco's a child, and when it comes to the day of the contest, I am his father. He comes to me for advices. So it's not that hard for me to give him the wrong advices." - Arnold Schwarzenegger - Pumping Iron
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03-27-2005, 01:09 PM #16
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03-27-2005, 03:06 PM #17
I feel more lower chest with dips
Benching (DB or BB) never got me anywhere. I was listening to all the idiots here in these forums saying "compounds compounds bench bench" and now I have a lagging chest.
For the lower chest i reccomend dips while leaning forward. For upper chest, flyes feel most and give me best results.Trainee under KhanPaulsen
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03-27-2005, 03:23 PM #19Originally Posted by DiamondDelts
I really like some of your advice
especially your shoulder excercise Lying bent press. done it for 4 weeks and i can see an improvement
To be honest, if I were you id start a website and make some money out of it.Trainee under KhanPaulsen
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03-27-2005, 03:57 PM #21
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Originally Posted by siderenios
Here is my take on compounds. They are good for bulking up teens or older noobies(most of the time) and helping them to build a base. But here is where my use for most of them stops. Once you get your base you will start to see what natural weakpoints you have. So then in my opinion it is time to focus on those weakpoints using various isolation exercises to build a physique. But some advanced lifters don't seem to understand that last sentence. You will hear these people always preaching how the basics are best and mandatory in every routine.
Yet you will also hear these people talk about how they have had the same weakpoints for years(small calves, thin bi's, narrow delts) and say it's just genetics. I don't believe in that outdated mode of thinking. I used compounds as tools to help me thicken up and build a base, now I focus on iso's and power iso's for developing my weakpoints. People who have compound heavy workouts and ignore iso/weakpoint training will just let the stronger muscle groups continue to overpower there naturally weaker ones resulting in an unbalanced physique.
That is why I do my iso's before compounds in my workouts. I use iso's to develop and shape my physique and compounds just for thickness. Not to magically fill out and develop all my body's weakpoints as some think will happen.Last edited by DiamondDelts; 03-27-2005 at 04:12 PM.
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04-03-2005, 06:57 AM #23Originally Posted by DiamondDelts
I like your sig DD, going dolla for dolla with ****ty genetics since 1994.I am not trying to be better than you, just better than myself
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