Information on H.I.T.

vmays0318 · 08-31-2007, 02:50 PM

Does anyone have any GOOD information on H.I.T. ? I am interested in incorporating it into my weight-training but I'd like to see some sample workouts. Every article I have found on the subject has been filled with a lot of useless information, scientific proof and blah blah. I just want to know if it works and see some examples of how people use it! Thanks!

all pro · 08-31-2007, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by vmays0318

Does anyone have any GOOD information on H.I.T. ? I am interested in incorporating it into my weight-training but I'd like to see some sample workouts. Every article I have found on the subject has been filled with a lot of useless information, scientific proof and blah blah. I just want to know if it works and see some examples of how people use it! Thanks!

For starters:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3245561

vmays0318 · 08-31-2007, 03:37 PM

Thanks for the post, but that thread was not much help. It just seemed like a bunch of guys arguing back and forth trying to see what training method is best. I honestly feel like everyone's body is different, therefore different training methods work best different people. If anyone can share a true HIT workout program, I would really appreciate it.

all pro · 08-31-2007, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by vmays0318

Thanks for the post, but that thread was not much help. It just seemed like a bunch of guys arguing back and forth trying to see what training method is best. I honestly feel like everyone's body is different, therefore different training methods work best different people. If anyone can share a true HIT workout program, I would really appreciate it.

Have fun,
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/hitprog.htm

vmays0318 · 08-31-2007, 05:01 PM

Thank you! Exactly what I was looking for!

wktlive1000 · 08-31-2007, 05:33 PM

Mike Mentzer was introduced to the inventor of Nautilus machines' Arthur Jones through fellow bodybuilder and massively developed Casey Viator after losing to Casey in a bodybuilding competition.
Arthur Jones believed in training athletes on a low volume, high intensity program with much longer than normal periods of rest (5-7 days if I'm correct). His goal for reps were a slow count (3-4 secs.) down and also a slow count down of the same duration. Much of Mike Mentzer's training programs were advanced versions of what Arthur Jones had laid out in the early '70s.
Mike first experimented with using 4 seconds down and 4 seconds up, using static holds if there was stress at the top of the motion (such as machines like pulldowns and pec deck).
Then later he added periodic static holds throughout the motion, like stopping at 2-3 different points along a bicep curl using lighter than normal weight. This really taps into the slow twitch muscle fibers that many volume trainers can only hope to tap into. (I've found that using one rep with 3 separate static holds, up and down, followed by a normal full rep at a high speed gives me a "wicked pump" as Rich Gaspari would say.
Finally Mike employed a barrage of one rep maxes to really take his fast-twitch muscle fibers to the cleaners, and give him a massively full look that now seems to be the staple of any IFBB pro male builder. With a spotter he would load up his personal max, go for it succeed or fail, wait 40 secs. and then repeat. He would do this for a variety of exercises including bench press, squat, deadlift, etc.
Keep in mind that the last method I just explained was employed while he was possibly taking a "nightmarish" amount of recovery enhancement aids, but during one of his last interviews before his sad passing from a hereditary disease called Berger's (again, I could be wrong), he talked about training athletes with the 4 seconds up, 4 seconds down routine, giving each muscle group 7 or even 12 days rest in some cases before he got the kind of strength gains tha the considered satisfactory.
Mike was a legend, and even though I just recently found out about some of his training methods I still get a little choked up talking about any person that gave of himself in a somewhat selfless manner to further the pursuit of happiness for any of us normal people.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhWfz6HHCWM
or just punch in, Mike Mentzer on you tube. Note how the athlete he's training in this video tells Mike "I hate you, I hate you" under his breath after being pushed into a leg press to failure set by Mike!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGyfZ-yq1k

wktlive1000 · 08-31-2007, 05:42 PM

The only man to ever win the Mr. Universe with a perfect score in all categories. Won best heavyweight in the '79 Olympia but lost overall to Frank Zane, then in '80 took 4th or 5th to Arnold Schwarzenegger who was way out of shape having begun his acting career, but had key financial ties with the people who had put on that spectacle. Infact the process for entering the Mr. Olympia involves submitting a form 3 months ahead of time, Arnold entered during the last month against regulation, Joe Weider let it slide. When asked why Arnold had even entered, he said something like "to prove to Mike Mentzer and Boyer Coe who have been bad-mouthing my training methods."

Rippinit · 09-06-2007, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by wktlive1000

Mike Mentzer was introduced to the inventor of Nautilus machines' Arthur Jones through fellow bodybuilder and massively developed Casey Viator after losing to Casey in a bodybuilding competition.
Arthur Jones believed in training athletes on a low volume, high intensity program with much longer than normal periods of rest (5-7 days if I'm correct). His goal for reps were a slow count (3-4 secs.) down and also a slow count down of the same duration. Much of Mike Mentzer's training programs were advanced versions of what Arthur Jones had laid out in the early '70s.
Mike first experimented with using 4 seconds down and 4 seconds up, using static holds if there was stress at the top of the motion (such as machines like pulldowns and pec deck).
Then later he added periodic static holds throughout the motion, like stopping at 2-3 different points along a bicep curl using lighter than normal weight. This really taps into the slow twitch muscle fibers that many volume trainers can only hope to tap into. (I've found that using one rep with 3 separate static holds, up and down, followed by a normal full rep at a high speed gives me a "wicked pump" as Rich Gaspari would say.
Finally Mike employed a barrage of one rep maxes to really take his fast-twitch muscle fibers to the cleaners, and give him a massively full look that now seems to be the staple of any IFBB pro male builder. With a spotter he would load up his personal max, go for it succeed or fail, wait 40 secs. and then repeat. He would do this for a variety of exercises including bench press, squat, deadlift, etc.
Keep in mind that the last method I just explained was employed while he was possibly taking a "nightmarish" amount of recovery enhancement aids, but during one of his last interviews before his sad passing from a hereditary disease called Berger's (again, I could be wrong), he talked about training athletes with the 4 seconds up, 4 seconds down routine, giving each muscle group 7 or even 12 days rest in some cases before he got the kind of strength gains tha the considered satisfactory.
Mike was a legend, and even though I just recently found out about some of his training methods I still get a little choked up talking about any person that gave of himself in a somewhat selfless manner to further the pursuit of happiness for any of us normal people.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhWfz6HHCWM
or just punch in, Mike Mentzer on you tube. Note how the athlete he's training in this video tells Mike "I hate you, I hate you" under his breath after being pushed into a leg press to failure set by Mike!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGyfZ-yq1k

Yes! i watched that video several times- the bodybuilder in that vid is markus reinhardt-he actually has his own website as well-markusreinhardt.com- there are a few vids on there with him, mike and ray-intense stuff!

Screamin · 09-06-2007, 01:43 PM

PM Defiant1

BOLT. · 09-06-2007, 03:59 PM

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PM Defiant1

Yeah I'm pretty sure he's gained the majority of his mass on HIT.

I dont work at Ballys · 09-06-2007, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by vmays0318

Does anyone have any GOOD information on H.I.T. ? I am interested in incorporating it into my weight-training but I'd like to see some sample workouts. Every article I have found on the subject has been filled with a lot of useless information, scientific proof and blah blah. I just want to know if it works and see some examples of how people use it! Thanks!

make sure to eat a low protein diet to be sure to minimize your gains.