So you want to be a bad ass?

[Deadgame]

I have noticed the past few weeks this board is littered with post asking everything from what martial art should they take to how to explode someone's heart with a human hair. I figured being the nice guy I am I could help clue in some of you into the world learning to be a bad ass.

The first lesson is that quite simply, bad ass are made in the womb and not in the gym.No matter how many tybo classes and ninja throwing star classes you have under your brown and pink striped belt your not going to turn yourself into a super bad ass. When the punches start coming ,the taste of blood fills your mouth, and you realize your all alone it can be a scary place. All those punches you through at the air in the dojo, are not going to save you.If you look back in history every bad-ass has come from a place he doesn't want to go back to.You ever wonder how Harvard University can have a boxing team for over 150 years but has never produced not one world champ? The proof is in the pudding.If your not a bad ass now no gym or dojo can make you one. They might make you a little tougher or give you more confidence but hell a new pair of shoes can do that.


The second lesson is if your at a gym or dojo and your not sparring with your fellow members then chances are your wasting your time and money.When I say sparring I'm not talking about you touch the other guy on the forehead and someone yells point. I'm talking about if you spar then chances are someone is going down and someone is probably going to be bleeding. Practice makes perfect and if your not practicing your craft in real time then you setting yourself up for failure in the real world.


Now, your probably wonder what should martial art should you take. I know this because more than likely everything I have said so far went right over your head. Martial Arts in general are worthless. There I said it flame away. It seems everybody and their mother's brother has opened a gym and promises to teach everything from karate to ninjitsu. The fact is in order to make money and remain profitable these gyms can not really produce the environment needed for you to succeed in any discipline. In other words little Johnny's mom is not going to pay 200 bucks a month to see her son come home beat up everyday. Now granted there are some gyms out there that cater to no holds barred fighting tournaments and offer just what you need but they are far a few between.Most real fighters are *******s and that type of mentality is not really found at the local strip mall or shopping center.


I don't really want to get into what's better ground fighting or strikes because it could go on forever. I will point out some-things that may help you with your decision on how to become a better bad ass since you have read this far and realize you were a natural born killer in the womb, come from a broken home and last but not least are a big time *******. In your general day to day activities the need for self defense will not come from the ground! The average bully, robber, kid who nailed your girlfriend will not be looking to wrestle on the ground with you but to knock you the Fook out period. You objective is to strike back , hard and then have the option of getting out of there fast. The last thing you want to do it be caught up in a wrestling match while three of his buddies look on. Nothing invites a coward to take a free shot like a guy who has his hands tied up with his buddy tussling on the ground. You want to keep your options open and grappling cuts that in half. It's a nice compliment to any arsenal but in most practical applications it can be very risky in the real world. If your planning on competing then its a must but I would guess if your reading this then you aren't.

The simplest thing for you to do to raise your bad ass level is to get out a phone book and look up a boxing gym that is in a crappy part of town. You are more likely to find other bad asses to spar with and also learn a nifty craft.Do your research and the more unpleasant the place seems the better.I hope this helps and some of you found it entertaining.

[dillon1111]

i disagree, but nice post.

[Killah Boy]

LMAO!

[Guerra]

Already am
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[LatsMakeTheMan]

Good post Deadgame.......very true.

Being a good technical fighter and having the "badass" mentality are two different things.

In my experience, the tougher guy almost always comes out on top, regardless of what kind of training the other guy has.

It's all in your head. Some people have all kinds of speed, skills and techniques, but they still can't take a hit. Other guys may be scrappy brawlers, but they get hit and they don't really care. The latter guy always wins.

The other thing is that "organized" fighting, such as in a tournament, is very different from the average spontaneous streetfight. Fighting styles are typically designed to work in a very programmed fashion. This is perfect for a UFC style fight, but out in the street there are too many variables. The environment, the crowd of people around, the availability of weapons.....all of these things tend to reduce the effectiveness of sticking to a particular style of fighting. In this type of setting, you need to be able to adapt to what's going on around you, and that's more of a mental thing than a skills thing. In a situation such as this, real time experience is far more important than how many drills you did or how many laps you ran.

[Haider254]

you should host a class on how to create hilarious images and charge per hour.

[Saint Patrick]

Great post. I agree with most of it.

It's so true that street fights are different from organized fights. You might have some big bad ass karate or even wrestling, but if they were in a street fight they would get dropped.

That's also a problem with a lot of people who workout. Working out is great. It gets you stronger, and honestly, less people are going to mess with you. Just becasue you can benchpress 400 pounds, squat 1000, and curl even more doesn't mean you can fight.

Like he said, fighters are made in the womb. Either you have it or you don't. From then on, it's up to your upbringing to make you even that much more of a bad ass.

[I Love You]

If I had my way, you'd be given a Knighthood.

[sledgehammer956]

I have noticed the past few weeks this board is littered with post asking everything from what martial art should they take to how to explode someone's heart with a human hair. I figured being the nice guy I am I could help clue in some of you into the world learning to be a bad ass.

The first lesson is that quite simply, bad ass are made in the womb and not in the gym.No matter how many tybo classes and ninja throwing star classes you have under your brown and pink striped belt your not going to turn yourself into a super bad ass. When the punches start coming ,the taste of blood fills your mouth, and you realize your all alone it can be a scary place. All those punches you through at the air in the dojo, are not going to save you.If you look back in history every bad-ass has come from a place he doesn't want to go back to.You ever wonder how Harvard University can have a boxing team for over 150 years but has never produced not one world champ? The proof is in the pudding.If your not a bad ass now no gym or dojo can make you one. They might make you a little tougher or give you more confidence but hell a new pair of shoes can do that.


The second lesson is if your at a gym or dojo and your not sparring with your fellow members then chances are your wasting your time and money.When I say sparring I'm not talking about you touch the other guy on the forehead and someone yells point. I'm talking about if you spar then chances are someone is going down and someone is probably going to be bleeding. Practice makes perfect and if your not practicing your craft in real time then you setting yourself up for failure in the real world.


Now, your probably wonder what should martial art should you take. I know this because more than likely everything I have said so far went right over your head. Martial Arts in general are worthless. There I said it flame away. It seems everybody and their mother's brother has opened a gym and promises to teach everything from karate to ninjitsu. The fact is in order to make money and remain profitable these gyms can not really produce the environment needed for you to succeed in any discipline. In other words little Johnny's mom is not going to pay 200 bucks a month to see her son come home beat up everyday. Now granted there are some gyms out there that cater to no holds barred fighting tournaments and offer just what you need but they are far a few between.Most real fighters are *******s and that type of mentality is not really found at the local strip mall or shopping center.


I don't really want to get into what's better ground fighting or strikes because it could go on forever. I will point out some-things that may help you with your decision on how to become a better bad ass since you have read this far and realize you were a natural born killer in the womb, come from a broken home and last but not least are a big time *******. In your general day to day activities the need for self defense will not come from the ground! The average bully, robber, kid who nailed your girlfriend will not be looking to wrestle on the ground with you but to knock you the Fook out period. You objective is to strike back , hard and then have the option of getting out of there fast. The last thing you want to do it be caught up in a wrestling match while three of his buddies look on. Nothing invites a coward to take a free shot like a guy who has his hands tied up with his buddy tussling on the ground. You want to keep your options open and grappling cuts that in half. It's a nice compliment to any arsenal but in most practical applications it can be very risky in the real world. If your planning on competing then its a must but I would guess if your reading this then you aren't.

The simplest thing for you to do to raise your bad ass level is to get out a phone book and look up a boxing gym that is in a crappy part of town. You are more likely to find other bad asses to spar with and also learn a nifty craft.Do your research and the more unpleasant the place seems the better.I hope this helps and some of you found it entertaining.

Wow,What a badass, I got scared just reading his badass post. What a internet badass idiot!

[violinlifter]

Fighting is not the solution to problems.

[Deadgame]

Wow,What a badass, I got scared just reading his badass post. What a internet badass idiot!

Did you just call me a idiot?

[sledgehammer956]

Did you just call me a idiot?

I don't know,were you born stupid?

[Deadgame]

I don't know,were you born stupid?

So you don't know now if you called me a idiot?

[sledgehammer956]

So you don't know now if you called me a idiot?

SO you were born stupid

[Deadgame]

SO you were born stupid

I didn't notice the red blocks before. Your just a troll, my bad, flame on.

[MilitaryMan]

i agree with almost everything exept for the fact that fighters/ natural born killers are born that way. Before i began martial arts training (no, not that asian kung fu, karate crap, real martial art with plenty of no equipment sparring) i was a pussy. I could not kill a fly without feeling sorry for it. In my first 2 months of training, i was afraid of getting hit and hitting other people. Especially in the face. After months of training, sparring, coming back home with bruises all over your face. You just learn to not care. Ive been in a few streetfights since then and everytime I showed no mercy at all. Knees in the face, stomp his balls, broken wrists everything. I just dont care about what happens to the other guy anymore. I dont start fights, if he starts the fight then its his problem because in my mind, i am fighting for my life. if it wasnt for my training, i would never be able to hurt anyone like that, i would just run away.

Everything else you said is true. All those jui-jitsu guys who can do submissions and everything think that they are tough, but in a real streetfight you arent going to be rolling on the ground with broken bottles everywhere trying to do an arm bar, thats only for ring fighting. Good post, repped.

[AzBadass]

You could have saved yourself a ****load of typing and told them to copy me.

[Woden]

I think it is pretty ignorant for you to say that badasses are only born that way. Take for instance Theodore Roosevelt. He used to be pushed around in school, and cried very easily. He grew up, however, into a very tough man who got shot and finished delivering a hour-long speech before going to the hospital.

It should also be noted that he was that tought because he wanted to be. The human prain is very, very moldable, both by outside influences and internal desires.

Edit: Also consider that former NY city police commisoner, Kerik it think. I read hsi biography once, and he too used to be a "sissy" who got kicked around, but then grew up to be a true bad-ass who trained army special forces in knife and hand-to-hand combat.

[Deadgame]

Let me explain a little bit more about being born a badass. It does not mean that you can't break a nose or that you can't win in a street fight. I think everyone can be more aggressive or become more effective in defending themselves or fighting. The diffenrence is at what level a true badass is willing to take it.

To give you an example look at the Jack Dempsey vs Jess Willard fight of 1920. Dempsey was a ferocious animal and he delivered one of the most severe battering to Jess Willard ever witnessed in boxing history. Jess Willard was lucky to have survived the fight, the beating was that severe. Jess Willard suffered a broken jaw and broken ribs while hitting the canvas seven times in the opening round.Willard had to go to the hospital after the fight. Despite being outweighed by 60 pounds and 5 inch shorter, Dempsey used that aggressiveness and that primal desire that separates the good from the great. Anyone can learn or be programmed to react but that killer instinct your born with.

When Dempsey was knocked out of the ring against Luis Firpo he climbed back in with the help of reporters and end up knocking out Firpo. When he was ask what he was thinking he said he didn't even remember it. Thats what I'm talking about. Having such a desire to win that your throw all that which seems logical out the window to do what you have to do. Some of you may not agree with me and you don't have to but from what I have seen there is a diffenrence in being a natural fighter and one who works at it just to grasp a thread of whats all involved.

[Woden]

Let me explain a little bit more about being born a badass. It does not mean that you can't break a nose or that you can't win in a street fight. I think everyone can be more aggressive or become more effective in defending themselves or fighting. The diffenrence is at what level a true badass is willing to take it.

To give you an example look at the Jack Dempsey vs Jess Willard fight of 1920. Dempsey was a ferocious animal and he delivered one of the most severe battering to Jess Willard ever witnessed in boxing history. Jess Willard was lucky to have survived the fight, the beating was that severe. Jess Willard suffered a broken jaw and broken ribs while hitting the canvas seven times in the opening round.Willard had to go to the hospital after the fight. Despite being outweighed by 60 pounds and 5 inch shorter, Dempsey used that aggressiveness and that primal desire that separates the good from the great. Anyone can learn or be programmed to react but that killer instinct your born with.

When Dempsey was knocked out of the ring against Luis Firpo he climbed back in with the help of reporters and end up knocking out Firpo. When he was ask what he was thinking he said he didn't even remember it. Thats what I'm talking about. Having such a desire to win that your throw all that which seems logical out the window to do what you have to do. Some of you may not agree with me and you don't have to but from what I have seen there is a diffenrence in being a natural fighter and one who works at it just to grasp a thread of whats all involved.

I see no reason to draw the conclusion that trait is inherited. It could easily be mindset.

[Deadgame]

I see no reason to draw the conclusion that trait is inherited. It could easily be mindset.

Perhaps but look at a pitbull, contray to popular belief the dog is geneticaly predispostion to be willing to fight to the death.

[MilitaryMan]

Perhaps but look at a pitbull, contray to popular belief the dog is geneticaly predispostion to be willing to fight to the death.

i agree that some people are just natural born killers, but with proper training, that stuff can be taught. Its all phycological. We all have that killer instinct inside of us, we just have to bring it out.

[Deadgame]

i agree that some people are just natural born killers, but with proper training, that stuff can be taught. Its all phycological. We all have that killer instinct inside of us, we just have to bring it out.

I don't know about all of us. I think for the most part you are right. The military is a prime example of training people to kill based on stimuli but, there all people in the military who excel at it as well.

[Woden]

Perhaps but look at a pitbull, contray to popular belief the dog is geneticaly predispostion to be willing to fight to the death.

It has also been bred for high levels of aggression. All humans have this mindset, like the guy above said, it just needs to be brought out.

[TDW586]

I pretty much agree, good post.

I just feel you didn't emphasize enough how ****ing scary a fight can be. Flame away and call me a pussy all you want, someone bigger than you coming at you with the intent to make you bleed is ****ing frightening.

Also, I feel the need to lay out here something I know you agree with me on, Deadgame. The difference between "fighting" and "self-defense".

Anyone can learn self-defense. Self-defense is mainly awareness, verbal de-escalation techniques, and common sense, plus a few simple, dirty techniques to get you out of a bad situation. Mainly, techniques to get someone off you so you can run away or, failing that, get help. Self-defense is nearly all striking, gouging and biting, no submissions or control holds or take-downs or any of that. Those are fighting techniques.

Fighting is standing there and trying to beat them. Fighting is not reactive, fighting is offensive. Fighting can be striking, grappling, whatever works.

But what works for fighting is not necessarily right for self-defense.

Fighting is winning. Self-defense is simply surviving.

[Deadgame]

I pretty much agree, good post.

I just feel you didn't emphasize enough how ****ing scary a fight can be. Flame away and call me a pussy all you want, someone bigger than you coming at you with the intent to make you bleed is ****ing frightening.

Mike Tyson use to cry like a baby before his fights. I have never been in a fight I thought wow this is great.Fighting sucks and if anyone tells you they love it they are lying...they love the glory.

[Deadgame]

Ooops

[LatsMakeTheMan]

I didn't notice the red blocks before.

Ooops

[LatsMakeTheMan]

I pretty much agree, good post.

I just feel you didn't emphasize enough how ****ing scary a fight can be. Flame away and call me a pussy all you want, someone bigger than you coming at you with the intent to make you bleed is ****ing frightening.

I agree 100%......it's always scary.

But I always think of the quote from Rocky V (yea I know everyone hates Rocky V) where he tells Tommy Gunn "fear is what keeps you sharp." If it weren't for the fear, you couldn't win a fight. The fear is what causes the adrenaline surge, and allows you to react quickly and decisively.

[Deadgame]

I agree 100%......it's always scary.

But I always think of the quote from Rocky V (yea I know everyone hates Rocky V) where he tells Tommy Gunn "fear is what keeps you sharp." If it weren't for the fear, you couldn't win a fight. The fear is what causes the adrenaline surge, and allows you to react quickly and decisively.

Tommy Morrison is a very special guy.