Endothil-CR?

[Ace7644]

ive seen this advertised in some magazines and i was wondering if any of you guys have herd/used it and gotten any good results. it says its better than steroids and is made from green tomato extract and costs 90 bucks for a 30 day supply.

[c++342]

im interested in it, guess ill wait for a non-bias review hehe

[Luke Dog]

I have also read about in a fwe mags. I have also tried to research the product on-line. The only thing I can find on it, is the manufacturers (this is the greatest thing since sliced bread) ressearch. I am interseted in finding out more about this product and would like to try it. However the other issue I am having with this product, is I can't find it anywhere. If anyone knows where to get it, let me know. Endothil is supposed to have a web site but it is not up yet.

[Luke Dog]

Guess I should have tried the Endothil web site before my last post. It's up now, wasn't a few days ago. Anyway, I think I'm going to try it. I'll keep everyone posted on the results.

[pu12en12g]

Guess I should have tried the Endothil web site before my last post. It's up now, wasn't a few days ago. Anyway, I think I'm going to try it. I'll keep everyone posted on the results.

Any updates ?

[airport4]

Bump

[bocamp]

I've had product on order since the Arnold Classic. I still have not received it. The product is selling too well, according to internet supplier.
I dont know if it works, but if it does, and all muscleheads should be the first to know, then I would tell all those with a few pennies to buy the stock of the biotech company that makes it. The symbol is EVSC and it sells for about 7 cents a share. This company was over 100 dollars a share in the roaring 90's. Today, a 1000 shares will cost 70 dollars.
It's rare that gym rats might have the heads up before the wall street *******s, but.............. Good Luck To All

[c-bbomb]

I've had product on order since the Arnold Classic. I still have not received it. The product is selling too well, according to internet supplier.
I dont know if it works, but if it does, and all muscleheads should be the first to know, then I would tell all those with a few pennies to buy the stock of the biotech company that makes it. The symbol is EVSC and it sells for about 7 cents a share. This company was over 100 dollars a share in the roaring 90's. Today, a 1000 shares will cost 70 dollars.
It's rare that gym rats might have the heads up before the wall street *******s, but.............. Good Luck To All

sounds like he works for them ^^^^^^^

[bocamp]

Hey c boob.
Can you read? Did I ever hype the product? I said use your own judgement. . I'll repeat myself for slow learners like yourself. IF product works, it will make big $ and why shouldn't some gym rats find a way to profit from it.

[lunaticfringe]

Don't want to sound like a pessimist here; I really wish someone developed a "wonder" drug that allowed skinny guys like myself to gain 10 lbs. of mass in 6 weeks, but I did a bit of research on the web (don't you just LOOOOOVE Google ? ...wish I'd bought some stock :-( shucks ) and did not like at all what I found. I'll post it here to save you the time and you can draw your own conclusions:

1) The Dr. that did the research printed in the Endothil-CR ad, Dr. Daniel B. Mowrey, is being challenged by the FtC regarding false claims in the marketing of several weight loss gels and supplements (http://www.hsrmagazine.com/hotnews/46h17154720.html). I could not find any website for Dr. Mowrey nor his non-profit organization American Phytotherapy Research Laboratory.
2) The company that supposedly developed Endothil-CR, called Endovasc (www.endovasc.com), NovexBiothech is only a company that markets it, is in a very poor shape. Its shares have plummeted from a high of $100 in 2000 down to less than a penny today; it is bleeding cash badly at a rate of $2M per year with sales of just $72k and it recently sued its former CEO for "civil conspiracy, breach of fiduciary duty and breach of contract and recision "
3) Nowhere is the study published on the web, much less in a reputable medical journal. That is because the results don't make any sense. They say that they increased biceps size with no change in quadriceps circunference, weight or body mass index. The only explanation I can come up with is that their other muscles shrank while their biceps grew-not a very attractive proposition. Also, how can you increase your press by 70lbs and with no effect on quad size, weight or body mass index ? I am totally confused here, someone please help me out.

Still looking for the wonder drug.........

[c-bbomb]

Hey c boob.
Can you read? Did I ever hype the product? I said use your own judgement. . I'll repeat myself for slow learners like yourself. IF product works, it will make big $ and why shouldn't some gym rats find a way to profit from it.

whooa calm down buddy, ever heard of this thing called ummm what was it again? ohh i know a JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[motherrussia]

well, aside from your little basement research, i bought a box, got it with tax for only $47 bucks. i will start monday 5/30/05. and will document my results.



one

[Denny M]

good work lunatic

[deadbluesky]

hey guys, i am going to start taking my endothil on 6/12 i will keep you guys updated

[gymmratt]

Any updates on if this stuff works or not for those of you who have tried it?

[1MikeD]

I just ordered a bucket of whey, a multi and some dex from bb.com and got an ad for it. Did this stuff actually do anything for anyone who used it?

[Skigazzi]

Riboflavin 6.8g 400%
Proprietary Blend 9mg
-Green Tomato SE
-Grape Seed SE
-Grean Tea SE
-Quercetin
-Rutin

Tell me how this is anabolic in any way shape or form....all this stuff is already in many vitamins, and all ingredients can be found much cheaper in bulk...Put me down as saying this is a bunk BullSh*t marketing only product.

Its basically only riboflavin...and 9mg of its special blend....thats less than a low dose Emax cycle!! how can this work? They will be shutdown by the FTC.

[bigboy15]

ive seen this advertised in some magazines and i was wondering if any of you guys have herd/used it and gotten any good results. it says its better than steroids and is made from green tomato extract and costs 90 bucks for a 30 day supply.

if it says it's better than roids it's probly ****

[cakedonkey]

Riboflavin 6.8g 400%
Proprietary Blend 9mg
-Green Tomato SE
-Grape Seed SE
-Grean Tea SE
-Quercetin
-Rutin

Tell me how this is anabolic in any way shape or form....all this stuff is already in many vitamins, and all ingredients can be found much cheaper in bulk...Put me down as saying this is a bunk BullSh*t marketing only product.

Its basically only riboflavin...and 9mg of its special blend....thats less than a low dose Emax cycle!! how can this work? They will be shutdown by the FTC.

Yeah, man. I saw this a while ago and made a thread about it:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=502372

What a complete and utter joke. It almost pisses me off to think they're making money off such a thing, and how dishonest they can be to the consumer.

[mikefromms]

While I don't believe this stuff is worth the price, I do have to say that I am getting stronger workout to workout and the pecs are looking nice as is my general physique. Just not enough to make it worth the price.

Mikefromms

[cakedonkey]

While I don't believe this stuff is worth the price, I do have to say that I am getting stronger workout to workout and the pecs are looking nice as is my general physique. Just not enough to make it worth the price.

Mikefromms

"Welcome to placebo-villie. Population: YOU." -- Will Brink

[Peaked]

ive seen this advertised in some magazines and i was wondering if any of you guys have herd/used it and gotten any good results. it says its better than steroids and is made from green tomato extract and costs 90 bucks for a 30 day supply.

Ask BigPoppaProppy when he gets back. I think he ran a cycle of that not to long ago.

[R-bean]

I read about this stuff in a magazine yesterday waiting for a haircut (which turned out like crap ) and I believe it said in order to be fully effective, you have to exhaust just one muscle group a workout.

[1MikeD]

I read about this stuff in a magazine yesterday waiting for a haircut (which turned out like crap ) and I believe it said in order to be fully effective, you have to exhaust just one muscle group a workout.

And stand on your head in a bowl of jello

[bucket]

Whomever thought to put "you must workout harder than you usually do to see results" on the box, is a genius. Whomever paid $50 per bottle for this is an idiot. No sh*t you'll see better results if you work out harder. You don't need riboflavin to help you with that.

[wormwood]

seriously stop wasting your time with this product. it is complete bull**** and you are only getting placebo gains(im guessing you are a noob). you would be much better off getting some higher power CEE, x-factor, and maybe something like whiteblood. and please do your research next time before you order a product(HINT:for most companies, it is their main goal to make money by any means and will use every trick in the book to do it so use google, pubmed and the search engine here and if theres not much feedback then it is probably a bull**** product.)

[JasonNmbr1dad]

Ok, been using this product for about a month. During Thanksgiving my sdad visited whom is a doctor. I asked him to review this product for anything they may seem to think it was worthy of anything. In reviewing the supplement ingridients, there are no items that assist in muscle cell creation. As far as muscle atrophy, there is only 1 company, he said it was some other country's lab, but not U.S., developed a medicine that hospitals used to create cells, primarily for folks with bed sores. It is something that within 1 week will grow skin back in those areas, ie. works. Iin endothil CR case, the recreation of cells cannot be done without the FDA approval of this particular product. So, unless Riboflavin (i.e. vitamin b6) or stems from a tomatoe (which dont have a daily value, i.e. dont partain to any recommendation for the human body and its development) has magical fairy touch, it bunk. Hope this helps!

Jason
OKC