Bammy's -NOS Ether- log

[Bammy]

I will be doing a log on Get Diesel’s NOS Ether. After all the postal service mix ups, Chuck still ended up sending a bottle out to me. What I am mainly looking for in this product is strength gains. Muscle gains would be nice too, since I have been having trouble gaining weight lately.


My Stats:
Age: 21
Weight: 162
Height: 6 ft.
BF: 6.5% (as of 3/15/05)

Current Supplements:
ON's 100% whey
Dymatize Elite whey
Syntrax Matrix 5.0
Dextrose
Centrum Performance Multi Vitamin
Vitamin C 500mg

Other 3rd Generation Creatines I have used:
-CEX
-Bulk CEE (plus other stuff)
I respond to these with slow but steady strength gain slightly what is above normal for me. I notice moderate pumps. No weight gain.

Current lifts:
DL – 330 x 8
Db bench – 80s x 9
ATG squat – 195 x 5
Leg press – 610 x 8

Goals by the end of this log:
DL – 360 x 8
Db bench – 85s x 8
ATG squat – 215 x 5
Leg press – 640 x 8

I am going to use ½ dose 2x per day for 2 days, then go up to full dose on the 3rd day.

[Bammy]

Day 1:

Pre workout: 1/2 serving
Post workout: 1/2 serving

Workout - Back, Bis, forearms:

wide grip pull-ups: 3 sets
lat shrugs: 3 sets
1 arm cable row: 2 sets
bb curl: 3 sets
alt. bd curl: 3 sets
high cable curl: 3 sets
hammer curl: 3 sets
behind back bb wrist curl: 3 sets

Taste:
Its just like watered down, slightly sweetened iced tea. But I do see what brassmonkey was talking about when he said there was a hint of chew flavor. I licked a little off my finger and it had that kind of minty tobacco flavor, but I didn't notice it in water. Not a bad flavor for a flavor called "Neutral." No where near as bad as CEE. Most people should NOT nead to add any flavor to Ether.

Effects:
Hmm, well I was able to add 10 lbs to lat shrugs for the same reps, and I got 2 more reps for the first set of pull-ups, which I'm ussually stuck on. Probably not related to Ether though, because it was my first dose. Rest of the workout, noticed nothing.

Observations:
Its a hasle to have to drink the Ether 15 min apart from the post w/o shake. I always have my shake right as I'm leaving the gym. I had to bring another shaker to have to Ether first, then wait on the shake. Chuck, is it really neccessary to take the 2nd dose apart from the shake? Mine consists of Whey Isolate, Oats and dextrose. If its important, then its no big deal.

[Bammy]

Day 2:

Pre workout: 1/2 serving
Post workout: 1/2 serving

Workout - Delts, Traps:

db press - 4 sets
cable rear laterals - 3 sets
lying laterals - 2 sets
cable laterals - 3 sets
bb shrugs behind back - 3 stes + drop
Cardio- 10 min HIIT

Its only day 2, but like yesterday, I noticed more strength in the first few sets. Got more reps than I've gotten before on a weight I have only done once before on db press (PR). But no change in the rest of the workout. I did some cardio, but did not notice any inhibiting pumps. My shins were feeling a pump but not too bad to run.

[Bammy]

Day 3:

Pre workout: 1 serving
Post workout: 1/2 serving

Workout - Legs

warmup - few min. of jogging
ATG squats - 3 sets
leg press - 3 sets
sissy squats - 1 set
seated leg curl - 3 sets + drop
seated calf raise - 3 sets
45 degree calf press - 3 sets

This was my first day at full dose. Got 195 x 6 on my last set of squats, but it wasn't any easier than usual. Those last 2 reps were hell. I did feel more of a pump than I ussually get in my quads, but nothing crazy.

Feel free to ask questions or comment on the log.

[Styleee]

nice log so far, keep it up.

[CHUCK DIESEL]

Originally Posted by Bammy

This was my first day at full dose. Got 195 x 6 on my last set of squats, but it wasn't any easier than usual. Those last 2 reps were hell. I did feel more of a pump than I ussually get in my quads, but nothing crazy.

Feel free to ask questions or comment on the log.

I personally like when someone does a log on my products and they are like "it worked ok but my diet and rest is good." Or "I put 100lbs on my squat but that’s easy to do." I have never seen so many people go into reviewing products so "negatively minded" for lack of words. If this was a MAN product or Erogopharm people would be going crazy with complements. Bammy I am not talking directly about you just in general on most trials of my products. No one seem to have realized that GET DIESEL hasn’t had pretty much one dissatisfied log posted on anything we make.

Bammy you should see good results the 2nd time you train a body part after you started full dosage. So your next back day, chest day, and leg day you should see more power if you do not have a set program you are following.

[Bammy]

Thanks for the comments. I acctually am very positive about Ether, and I realize that the ribose can take 20 days to fully kick in. I am excited about the 2nd time I work each muscle group, because I really dig in and hope to see some good strenght increases.

My split is:

Chest/tris
Back/bis
Delts/traps
Legs

just so you all know what I'm doing.

[Bammy]

Day 4:

Pre workout: 1 serving
Post workout: 1/2 serving

Workout - Chest & Tris

Incline db press - 3 sets
db press - 2 sets
mid cable flys - 3 sets
high cable flys - 1 set
rope press-down (lunge) - 3 sets
1 arm overhead cable ext. - 3 sets
2 tri sets of
-dips
-bench dips
-D rev. grip pushup on bench bar.

I only slept 6 hrs. last night, I ussually get 8-9 (3 papers due today). I though I would be too drained to have an excellent workout, but I was wrong. Guys, I'm not taking any stimulants, or anything pre-workout other than a whey / oats shake and Ether. I had great lifts today and felt pretty strong. Got a weight in incline dbs that I had never touched before! Then I did it for another set, when otherwise I would usually be too burned out. For tris I threw in a tri set, which I haven't done in like a year (except abs), just felt like it. Tris were pumped as much as they've ever been. Chest looked very full for a couple hours after the workout.

Quick comparison:
Strength increases so far are better than with CEX or bulk CEE.
Tri pump today was the fullest I've gotten, but not as defined looking as when I was using Throttle by Myochem.

[Bammy]

Day 5:

Pre workout: 1 serving
Post workout: 1/2 serving

Workout - Back & Bis

Deadlifts - 3 sets
Wide pullups - 2 sets
1 arm pulldown - 3 sets
incline db curl - 3 sets
high cable curls - 3 sets

Had to do a short workout because of time restraints. I got 335 x 9 on the DLs. Up 5 lbs + 1 rep since my last time. And even though I only got in 6 sets of bis, I understand what "blood pressure cuff pumps mean." Thats just what it feels like, an incredibly tight pump. Bis were a little stronger too.

[Bammy]

Day 6:

Pre workout: 1 serving
Post workout: 1/2 serving

Workout - Delts:

bb press - 3 sets
cable rear laterals - 3 sets
cable laterals - 3 sets
db press - 1 drop set
Cardio- 14 min HIIT

Short, but productive workout. Didn't work traps b/c they are sore from deads yesterday. My traps ussually don't feel it from deads so that tells me it was productive. I did notice my shins getting this pump again during cardio, but nothing else.

Looking foreward to squatting tomorrow!

[krustster]

WHy don't you list the weights and reps you do for each exercise, so we can see the strength increases?

[Bammy]

Day 7:

Pre workout: 1 serving
Post workout: 1/2 serving

Workout - Legs

warmup - few min. of jogging

ATG squats:
8 x 165
7 x 185
5 x 200

leg press:
8 x 620
8 x 620
13 x 620

sissy squats:
18 x +35

seated leg curl:
10 x 255
10 x 255
10 x 255 + drop

45 degree calf press
15 x 160
15 x 160
15 x 160
SS w/:
seated calf raise:
12 x 135
12 x 135
12 x 135 + drop

So today my squats are up 5 lbs since the start of the log. Leg press up 10 lbs. I'm pretty happy with that. Only problem is that on my last rep w/ 200 I couldn't get by back up comming out of the hole. Wasn't rounded, just leaning foreward too much. Most would say its a lower back weakness, but I'm not sure because I dead 335 without my back rounding. Any ideas?

[MKB001]

it is probably abdominal weakness. i never worked abs until i started leaning too far forward as the weight of my squat increased. i started doing abs and the problem was solved.

i recommend that you do abs three times a week.

good luck, and keep up the good work/log.

[krustster]

Same here, except that I think the idea of doing abs three times a week is ridiculous. Do them once a week, multiple sets with added weight, like any other muscle. Be sure to do the Valsalva maneuver (forcibly holding your breath) when you squat, especially going down that far... I never used to do it because I thought it was unsafe, stupid me. And I wondered why I was unstable at the bottom of the squat.

[krustster]

...also make sure you're resting on your heels not your toes, and lead with your head & chest when you start your ascent. That'll keep you from lifting your hips early and bending over.

[Bammy]

Thanks for the tips guys. I acctually have very strong abs and good flexibility, so I'm always on my heels at the very bottom. I bet the problem is mental, so I'll try filling up with air and leading with my chest. Maybe has to do with my body shape which is long legs short torso. I just feel so much more comfortable deadlifting than squatting.

[Bammy]

Day 8:

Pre workout: 1 serving
Post workout: 1/2 serving

Workout - Chest & Tris

db press:
8 x 58s
8 x 83s
7 x 83s

incline db press:
3 x 9 x 63s

high cable flys:
10 x 80
10 x 80
9 x 80

behind back rope press down:
3 x 7 x 190

rope press-down (lunge):
10 x 105
10 x 105
7 x 105

rev. CGBP:
3 x 9 x 145

1 arm overhead cable ext.:
3 x 8 x 32.5

bench dips:
33 x bodyweight

After my workout I noticed some vascularity in my upper pecs that I've never seen before. Very happy with this workout and stength increases. If you notice, my reps were tailing off on the third sets because I was failing early. This doesn't usually happen. In my experience so far, Ether is awesome for strength gains, but doesn't do much for muscular endurance.

[Bammy]

Day 9:

Took 1 serving, headed to the gym, only to find it was closed. I hate forced off days. Will update tomorrow with back and bis.

[Bammy]

Day 10:

Pre workout: 1 serving
Post workout: 1/2 serving

Workout - Back & bis & forearms

Deadlifts:
8 x 280
8 x 320
8 x 340

hammer grip pullups
10
10
8

1 arm pulldown
11 x 82.5
10 x 85
10 x 85

1 arm cable row
8 x 85
8 x 85

rev. grip cable curl
3 x 8 x 100

incline db curl
3 x 12 x 33

db preacher curl to outside
3 x 8 x 20

hammer curl drop set
16 x 53, 16 x 38, 16 x 28

Behind back bb wrist curl
3 x 8-8 x 145 (8 reps to fingertips, then 8 with a tight grip)

That workout felt great. 5 lbs up on DLs, - 1 rep. Forearms looked vascular as hell, like lightning bolts running through them. Got great pumps in the arms today too.

[Bammy]

Day 11:

Pre workout: 1 serving
Post workout: 1/2 serving

Workout - Delts, Traps & Abs

db press:
8 x 53
8 x 68
9 x 68

cable rear laterals:
3 x 10 x 42.5

lying laterals (in front of thight):
3 x 8 x 23

cable laterals:
8 x 35
8 x 35
10 x 25

CG bb shrug (frist time adding these):
3 x 10 x 225

Tri set of:
Incline reverse crunch:
20
12
12

cable crunch:
3 x 8 x 190

swiss ball crunch:
3 x 10

Today my mid traps, lats, lumbars, brachialis, and wrist extensors are sore. Yesterdays workout was as good as I thought it was.

Delts and traps went well, nothing out of the ordinary (except the 9 reps on my last set of db press).

This was my fist time working abs on Ether, and I've never had such an awesome ab pump. After the workout when I was changing, I could see a full 8 pack even when I was letting it hang out, not flexing them. I've never been able to see all my abs without flexing them. Pretty cool!

[Bammy]

Day 12:

Pre workout: 1 serving
Post workout: 1/2 serving

Workout - Legs

warmup - few min. of jogging

ATG squats:
8 x 165
7 x 190
5 x 205

leg press:
9 x 620
9 x 620
13 x 620

seated leg curl:
11 x 260
11 x 260
11 x 260

45 degree calf press (rest pause, drop set style with holds)
20 x 160
10 x 160
10 x 90

NOS Ether is proving to be awesome for strength. I have totally broken out of a rut I was in with squats. This is the BEST product for strength I have ever used, and its effects are more noticeable on multi-joint exercises.

[CHUCK DIESEL]

"Other 3rd Generation Creatines I have used:
-CEX
-Bulk CEE (plus other stuff)
I respond to these with slow but steady strength gain slightly what is above normal for me. I notice moderate pumps. No weight gain."

Originally Posted by Bammy

Day 12:

Pre workout: 1 serving
Post workout: 1/2 serving


NOS Ether is proving to be awesome for strength. I have totally broken out of a rut I was in with squats. This is the BEST product for strength I have ever used, and its effects are more noticeable on multi-joint exercises.

I'd like to personally pat myself on the back here bc the guy who is most doubted seems to equal the guy who's products produce results.

[Bammy]

Day 13:

Pre workout: 1 serving
Post workout: 1/2 serving

Workout - Chest & Tris

db press:
8 x 58s
5 x 83s
7 x 73s

incline db press:
3 x 10 x 63s

Next 3 exercises are in circuit for a change of pace
mid cable flys:
8 x 60
5 x 60

low cable flys:
8 x 40
5 x 40

high cable flys:
4 x 80
4 x 80

rev. CGBP:
3 x 7 x 155

rope press-down (lunge):
10 x 107.5
10 x 107.5
10 x 107.5 + drop

Ether could not save me today. I was just so mentally and phyically exhausted that I couldn't go very heavy today. This happens every time I go to the gym right after a Chemistry test (I'm terrible at Chemistry, it stresses me out and leaves me feeling brain dead). Also had little sleep, and 2 other assignments due today. Oh well tomorrow will be better.

On the plus side, I got my calves nice and sore yesterday just from 3 sets! Also, Chuck, why does the bottle say "may...increases testosterone levels in males"? I have been getting more acne, more than with the X-Factor. I have one on the side of my neck in the area where people get hickeys. This is not normal, whats going on?

[CHUCK DIESEL]

Originally Posted by Bammy

Day 13:
. Oh well tomorrow will be better.

On the plus side, I got my calves nice and sore yesterday just from 3 sets! Also, Chuck, why does the bottle say "may...increases testosterone levels in males"? I have been getting more acne, more than with the X-Factor. I have one on the side of my neck in the area where people get hickeys. This is not normal, whats going on?

I noticed more aggression with this formula when I first started taking it and I know my body which means it was increasing my testosterone. I am real sensitive to anything that slightly raises test levels. One of the ingredients in there has an aromatase inhibiting effect.

[Bammy]

Day 14:

Pre workout: 1 serving
Post workout: 1/2 serving

Workout - Back & bis & forearms

Deadlifts:
8 x 285
8 x 325
2 x 345 --> lost balance on 2nd rep, had to stop and get resituated
6 x 345

underhand pullups
10
8
6

1 arm pulldown
10 x 90
10 x 90
10 x 90

1 arm cable row
10 x 85
10 x 85

rev. grip cable curl
8 x 102.5
8 x 102.5
6 x 102.5

incline db curl
8 x 33
8 x 33
10 x 33

hammer curl
3 x 20 x 38

db preacher curl to outside (really starting to like these, gets the lower bi like crazy)
3 x 9 x 20

Behind back bb wrist curl
3 x 8-8 x 145

Strength is still increasing very well on most exercises. Forearm vascularity is out of control during workouts. I've gained a few pounds, but I do fluctuate, so I'll see where I end up at the end of the log. Also, I'm in a very good mood after my workouts lately, just very optimistic and calm.

[Bammy]

Day 15:

Pre workout: 1 serving
Post workout: 1/2 serving

Workout - Delts, Traps & Abs

bb press:
8 x 115
8 x 140
6 x 160

cable rear laterals:
3 x 8 x 45

lying laterals (in front of thight):
3 x 9 x 23

cable laterals: (from behind back)
6 x 35
8 x 30
8 x 30

CG bb shrug
8 x 235
9 x 235
10 x 235

Tri set of:
cable crunch:
3 x 10 x 190

Incline reverse crunch:
3 x 12

swiss ball crunch:
3 x 11

I felt good about getting 6 reps with 160, but would have gone for 6 with 165 after, but I couldn't get the lift off. Lying laterals felt much easier with that weight than usual. Adding 10lbs to the shrugs wa no problem either. I got that crazy ab pump today as well.

[Bammy]

Day 16:

Pre workout: 1 serving
Post workout: 1/2 serving

Workout - Legs

warmup - few min. of jogging

ATG squats:
8 x 165
10 x 165
8 x 156

leg extension
10 x 200
10 x 200
10 x 200 + drop
SS w/:
seated leg curl:
10 x 270
10 x 270
10 x 270 + drop

seated calf press (with holds)
20 x 160
15 x 160
10 x 160 + drop

9 min. of HIIT on treadmill

With my first squat, I knew something was wrong. Last leg day I hurt my left adductor doing seated curls when my right leg came off the bar on my very last rep. Never mentioned it, and thought it was almost better, until today. It is killing me!!! I really had to take it east on the leg stuff that involves adductors, so I changed my workout from what was planned. By the end, when I tried to stretch, it was hurting like crazy.

I injured my left adductor maybe a year and a half ago, and it just keeps getting re-injured. This is the worst its ever felt, so I may have to go light or even stop most leg involving exercises until it heals.

[Bammy]

Day 17:

Pre workout: 1 serving
Post workout: 1/2 serving

Workout - Chest & Tris

db press:
8 x 60s
6 x 85s
6 x 80s

incline db press:
6 x 65
8 x 65
10 x 60

Next 3 exercises are in circuit
low cable flys:
9 x 40
9 x 40
10 x 35
mid cable flys:
7 x 60
7 x 60
8 x 50

high cable flys:
8 x 70
8 x 70
10 x 60

rope press-down (lunge):
10 x 110
10 x 110
9 x 110

rev. CGBP:
3 x 8 x 150

Behind back rope press down (very short rets)
8 x 150
6 x 140
4 x 120
6 x 80
7 x 50

I got the 85s on flat db press for the first time today for 6 reps. After those 9 sets of cable flys, my chest felt like it was going to rip; very pumped. I hope that's the fascia stretching.

[Bammy]

Day 18:

Pre workout: 1 serving
Post workout: 1/2 serving

Workout - Back & bis

Deadlifts:
8 x 290
8 x 330
9 x 350

Pulldown
3 x 8 x 150

1 arm pulldown
3 x 9 x 95

cable row
3 x 8 x 150

incline db curl
3 x 14 x 33

db preacher curl to outside
3 x 7 x 23

hammer curl
3 x 18 x 43

high cable curls (drop set)
5 x 55
5 x 45
5 x 34
12 x 25

Biceps got another incredibly full stretching pump. I hope all these tearing feelings mean I'll be adding a little size soon. The pumps feel really good. I'm finding I stay pumped for like 30-45 min after my workouts, while usually pumps go away in like 5 min. For DLs, I was going for 8 reps with 350, but after 8, I decided to dig in and get 1 more.

[Striver]

Originally Posted by Bammy

Day 18:
For DLs, I was going for 8 reps with 350, but after 8, I decided to dig in and get 1 more.

Damn right.

"Subscribe".

I think this product is gonna be added to my big list of bulk supps (including 5 tubs of Xtend ), but I'll read the other reviews first.

Anyway, I'm really liking the log, nice lifts too, keep it up.