Adding test mid way?

H-TownbadASS · 08-28-2007, 02:21 PM

Ok, so I recently started a 8 week "cutting" cycle of

1 - 8 Equipoise 400mg/wk

2 - 8 Winny 50 mg eod

6 - 8 proviron 100 mg ed

It's the same one that Big Cat has suggested in one of his "Sample cycle" sections. After reading NUMEROUS posts on the lackluster gains of Equipoise and Winny, I'm thinking that I may want to incorporate some sort of test into the mix. I have already done 2 injections of the equipoise, and will begin the winny in another day or two along with my 3rd shot of EQ.

My question is if I can get ahold of some test:

1) which kind would work well with this cycle?

2) how would it be applied/incorporated?

3) what kind of PCT should I incorporate at the end?

Thanks for the help, I originally wasn't too sure about usuing test, but after reading numerous posts about it I guess it can't hurt to try it out - I just wanted to avoid as many side effects (libido loss, acne, hair loss, ect) as possible. Any input would be appreciated.

hybriD06 · 08-28-2007, 02:35 PM

Test is not something that causes a loss of libido...EQ and winstrol are. Why are you starting a cycle if youre not clear on the PCT you are going to use? As for adding test, it shouldnt have even been a question, testosterone should have been the backbone of your entire cycle, not an extra. The gains are significantly greater taking EQ and winny while taking test than without. Luckily for you, you have an opportunity to get the testosterone going in your body before the equipoise starts working. Buy some testosterone propionate and run 100mg every other day. This is not too much to see harsh sides, but its enough to pack some great muscle on...if your worried about hairloss take propecia and minoxidil, libido shouldnt be compromised with this cycle and if youre worried about acne, youre just gonna have to deal with it. It will heal. Get some proactiv or something. PCT should be tamoxifen citrate in a 40/40/20/20 protocol.

H-TownbadASS · 08-28-2007, 02:46 PM

100 mg of test prop every other day, that seems like a lot of injections....at least a lot more than I was planning on. Can test prop be done in weekly doese with my eq, or can you just drink the injections? How long should I plan on taking the test prop, 3 weeks? 4? The last 6 weeks of my proposed cycle?

Also, I'm afraid I'm not familiar with the way you described to take the tamoxifen, does that stand for 40 mg 1st and 2nd week, 20 mg 3rd and 4th week? Thanks

sXeWarrior · 08-28-2007, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by H-TownbadASS

100 mg of test prop every other day, that seems like a lot of injections....at least a lot more than I was planning on. Can test prop be done in weekly doese with my eq, or can you just drink the injections? How long should I plan on taking the test prop, 3 weeks? 4? The last 6 weeks of my proposed cycle?

Also, I'm afraid I'm not familiar with the way you described to take the tamoxifen, does that stand for 40 mg 1st and 2nd week, 20 mg 3rd and 4th week? Thanks

No, its ester is too short. It needs to be injected at 100 mg EOD, or if you don't have enough even go 50 mg EOD, I'm starting a Prop only cycle momentarily with 100 mg EOD.

Clive Jones · 08-28-2007, 03:30 PM

that cycle is junk IMO - granted EQ has some anabolic properties, the cycle aint worth sh*t without Test..you should have had it from the get go!
EQ and winstrol do not "cut" fat...if your already low bf%., they will greatly improve your over all appearance with vascularity and muscle hardness

if its only been a week or 2..I highly suggest adding Test Enth...you can shoot both test/Eq on Mon/Thurs

PCT - depending on length of cycle - since EQ is being used, I suggest 12 weeks+ because it wont even peak for 7-8 weeks...so HCG may want to be added in the last week of cycle along with Nolvadex for PCT

H-TownbadASS · 08-28-2007, 06:06 PM

Ok, so I'll go ahead and grab the Test - E or prop...I guess whichever one I can get cheaper. Is 1200 mgs enough...that would be 12 shots - mon/thurs for 6 weeks.

Also, again, I'm not exactly sure how to read the tamaxofin doseges, what exactly does 40/40/20/20 mean. And when would I begin, 2 weeks after last injection? Thanks for the help - new to the world of juice.

workhardplyhard · 08-28-2007, 07:22 PM

you probably want to be shooting 500mgs per week of test e. the 40/40/20/20 refers to the amount of nolva taken everyday with the / separating the amount taken each week.... so 40mgs perday for 2 weeks then 20mgs taken for the last two.

g8rBait · 08-28-2007, 07:27 PM

ur a douchebag!!!!!! why would u waste all this gear on such a retarded cycle, everyone who is new to the game, read this post, this is WHAT NOT TO DO!!!!!

Clive Jones · 08-28-2007, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by g8rBait

ur a douchebag!!!!!! why would u waste all this gear on such a retarded cycle, everyone who is new to the game, read this post, this is WHAT NOT TO DO!!!!!

dont be an idiot.

H-TownbadASS · 08-29-2007, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by g8rBait

ur a douchebag!!!!!! why would u waste all this gear on such a retarded cycle, everyone who is new to the game, read this post, this is WHAT NOT TO DO!!!!!

WOW - Thanks for the insightful comment! All this time lifting and trying to get the facts...and the answer was right in front of me the whole time: I'm a douchebag.

You know, after spending the past 3 years of my life in Afghanistan and Iraq with mortar attacks, vbieds, and limited research abilities, it's nice to have someone with your level of knowledge to point me in the right direction. With your seemingly endless array of knowledge, it's hard to belive you're only 20!

So again, thanks for the advice - I will be sure to direct all my future fitness questions to you directly instead of wasting my time posting a new thread so all these other "idiots" can cloud my judgement with their worthless advise...