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    2000 Pounds RAW at 198

    Ok there you have it. A friend of mine has totaled just shy of 2000 pounds raw at 200 pounds I commented on it in another thread and instead of jacking that thread forever I just made this. Why is this so hard for people to believe? He does it at a meet every year and you can check the meet results for yourself. My own theory about why he isnt recognized is because he is an advocate of raw lifting and a "certain meet holder" doesnt like that. In fact no one even cheers for him as he hits parallel with 750 and a belt My point is there are good lifters out there that are fed up with politics and just dont care if their names are on PLing USA or not

    Here are the results and you guessed it........no pics cause everyone hates on him. The meet was posted in PLUSA and no pics of him there. But when the meet holder benches 1000+ you bet the cameras are there (sorry TMI)

    Originally Posted by StrongInChrist View Post
    Heres a meet where he just did 1770@ 201. He missed a 750 squat and 750 dead but hes hit that before (seen it in person at a meet)
    http://www.rychlakpowersystems.com/M...P9Results.html

    He tested positive for teh roids in 03 so hes been lifting a little less lately

    http://www.usapowerlifting.com/newsl...l/medical.html
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    1770 is quite a lot shy of 2000... but its still VERY IMPRESSIVE!

    According to this- http://www.rawpowerlifting.com/pdf/R...nStandards.pdf he's getting just over the elite raw total for a 275lber and hes only 198lbs!!!
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    Originally Posted by olympic View Post
    1770 is quite a lot shy of 2000... but its still VERY IMPRESSIVE!

    According to this- http://www.rawpowerlifting.com/pdf/R...nStandards.pdf he's getting just over the elite raw total for a 275lber and hes only 198lbs!!!
    Like I said he missed a 750 dead and squat which he has hit before.

    Last year was

    750
    435
    700
    1885

    and he has pulled 750 as well breaking 1900.

    Edit: Cool link BTW
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    the funniest thing you mentioned was him being a raw advocate and then doing a IPA meet...just too funny... also just because he lifts raw doesn't mean he does not get recognized. if and when he does pull off a 2000 or near 2000 total in a sanctioned meet at his weight or even 198, trust me he will get the recognition he deserves. I suggest him going raw in a USPF meet. It is untested and the judging is somewhat strict most of the time, especially compared to the IPA. Actually any fed is more strict then the IPA! hahaa... good luck to him...very strong.

    Also to say he was shy of a 2000 total is quite a exaggeration. I can see if he actually did hit his 750 on squat and deadlift, but the fact of the matter is he didn't. It's like saying Brian Siders was shy of a 2400+ raw total because he has the potential of a 900 lb raw squat, 650+ raw bench, and 850+ raw deadlift. The fact is no one cares unless it was done in a sanctioned meet. If that wasn't the case everyone would talk about rick weil's 600 @ 200 raw bench or greg warr's 533 @ 133 shirted bench way before the new age shirts...

    Also what does testing positive for roids have to do with competing? so much untested federations out there...don't make excuses for him...he's obviously very strong, he just needs to do it!...if he ever does another raw meet i'll be interested on what he puts up...keep us posted if/when it happens...and i'm assuming you know him personally since it's your friend...tell him uspf! or anything but ipa! haha...
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    Perceptionist:

    He did total 1885 in a sanctioned meet thats why I said it. Its within 150 as far as the books and they called him on the squat for (ironically enough) DEPTH when the dudes donnin leviathans were 6 inches high He pulled 750 above his knees and dropped it much like Bolton did his last one. It was his third attempt because they said his first 700 "wasnt locked out". Haters man Ill definitely tell him to check out USPF.

    I def. plan on taking pictures at the next meet. You gotta see this guys legs He weighs 200 pounds but hes like 5'6" and waddles like a duck cause his legs are hyooge.
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    Originally Posted by olympic View Post
    1770 is quite a lot shy of 2000... but its still VERY IMPRESSIVE!

    According to this- http://www.rawpowerlifting.com/pdf/R...nStandards.pdf he's getting just over the elite raw total for a 275lber and hes only 198lbs!!!
    the raw records are a complete joke

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    Haters man
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    he has a good squat and dead...good for him...I bet there are some other 198lb lifters who could beat that if the competed raw, but the choose not to so we will not know.
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    I don't care what anyone says, those are VERY impressive numbers for someone with no gear and only weighing 198lbs.
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    Originally Posted by LockOut View Post
    he has a good squat and dead...good for him...I bet there are some other 198lb lifters who could beat that if the competed raw, but the choose not to so we will not know.
    I was a spectator at that meet. I definitley remember his name so I must have been realitivley impressed. I did not remember him being raw but if Strong says he was I am sure he was. With that said there was NOBODY in the 198ers at that meet that would beat those numbers raw. Those are great raw numbers. I will say that I was a tad bit disapponited with the judging, sorta scewed some of the numbers.
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    Was he really 198? It lists him in the 220 division. Regardless, that's a huge total.
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    Originally Posted by Tormented View Post
    Was he really 198? It lists him in the 220 division. Regardless, that's a huge total.
    he was 201 with about 15% BF. He doesnt seem to take things serious at that meet and comes in at whatever he comes in at. I was never one to suck weight either
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    Originally Posted by gunzandwheelz View Post
    I was a spectator at that meet. I definitley remember his name so I must have been realitivley impressed. I did not remember him being raw but if Strong says he was I am sure he was. With that said there was NOBODY in the 198ers at that meet that would beat those numbers raw. Those are great raw numbers. I will say that I was a tad bit disapponited with the judging, sorta scewed some of the numbers.
    Yeah the results link lists him as raw too. He got best lifter at that meet too Raw best lifter against geared lifters Id say thats impressive

    What part of PA do you live in? Small world if we were two BB.comers and didnt know we were in the same room
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    Let me guess, you were a judge there........
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    Let me guess, you were a judge there........
    a bad call is a bad call, not "hating"..
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    Originally Posted by Oldtime View Post
    a bad call is a bad call, not "hating"..
    You werent there. The reference to "hating" was leaning more towards the fact that they were patting people on the back for squatting 300 pounds in a hardcore, and then this guy drops deep with 750 and a belt and no one even applauds. He walks rights past Gene with 3 white lights and no slap on the back, no good job dave man. There is obviously some bad blood there and maybe its Ralphs fault too. Who knows but it sure looks like "hatin" to me
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    Originally Posted by StrongInChrist View Post
    You werent there. The reference to "hating" was leaning more towards the fact that they were patting people on the back for squatting 300 pounds in a hardcore, and then this guy drops deep with 750 and a belt and no one even applauds. He walks rights past Gene with 3 white lights and no slap on the back, no good job dave man. There is obviously some bad blood there and maybe its Ralphs fault too. Who knows but it sure looks like "hatin" to me
    close is not good enough....


    the scale was probably hating on him too using your logic
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    Originally Posted by Oldtime View Post
    close is not good enough....


    the scale was probably hating on him too using your logic
    Yeah I wouldnt doubt someone was leaning on that too And while were at it I think you may be hating on him too because your an advocate of RAW lifting and hes probably smashing you too Haters never prosper Bra
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    Originally Posted by StrongInChrist View Post
    And while were at it I think you may be hating on him too because your an advocate of RAW lifting and hes probably smashing you too Haters never prosper Bra
    I pray this was just a miserable attempt at humor...
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