O/T How many of you go to a school where the football team sucks?

**WEAKA5HELL** · 08-20-2007, 09:32 AM

At my school the football team hasn't won more than 3 games in a year since all the mediocre players left. I don't think we have won two homecoming games in the 40 year history of the program, but this year that might change as we are actually playing a team with less wins in the past five years than our team. I decided to post this because it always seems like everyone here either plays for Lakeland, Hoover, or played for De La Salle in the 90's. I don't play football anymore, it kind of bothered me that no one cared and that there were more cross country runners in the weight room than football players so I stopped.

**crazycanuck7901** · 08-20-2007, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by WEAKA5HELL

At my school the football team hasn't won more than 3 games in a year since all the mediocre players left. I don't think we have won two homecoming games in the 40 year history of the program, but this year that might change as we are actually playing a team with less wins in the past five years than our team. I decided to post this because it always seems like everyone here either plays for Lakeland, Hoover, or played for De La Salle in the 90's. I don't play football anymore, it kind of bothered me that no one cared and that there were more cross country runners in the weight room than football players so I stopped.

Well kudos to runners for getting stronger. That said, I played for a high school team and we won regionals, missed out on the provincial (state) tournament by this...tied records, but lost out on point differential...came down to a single f***ing point scored. I played for a college team that won conference, and won a bowl game. Last year my high school won provincials and this upcoming season, looks to be a national playoff contender. Much better equipped than last season. How about a Tailback that is 6'4, 240pounds, runs a 4.4 40 and benches 330 with a 33" vertical? Thats just the TB.

**xKKx7** · 08-20-2007, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by crazycanuck7901

Well kudos to runners for getting stronger. That said, I played for a high school team and we won regionals, missed out on the provincial (state) tournament by this...tied records, but lost out on point differential...came down to a single f***ing point scored. I played for a college team that won conference, and won a bowl game. Last year my high school won provincials and this upcoming season, looks to be a national playoff contender. Much better equipped than last season. How about a Tailback that is 6'4, 240pounds, runs a 4.4 40 and benches 330 with a 33" vertical? Thats just the TB.

Our team sucks, we aren't even in a league this year cuz we sucked so much.

**Michael Bao** · 08-20-2007, 12:42 PM

Yup, I'm from one. Our team took CIF in 1986. We've been getting 0-10 or 1-9 in 2000-2005. Last year we went 4-6. This year, haha. Is going to be a hell of a season!

**WEAKA5HELL** · 08-20-2007, 12:57 PM

I forgot a follow up question that I wanted to ask. For those of you on teams that suck, is it more personnel problems or are the coaches responsible for atleast part of it? Here the coaches are not great from a football perspective (a lot of them coach other sports) and the players (also not good) just believe anything they have to say like little sheep. Although I have to admit I was one of the sheep once as well.

**ThaCarterIII** · 08-20-2007, 01:01 PM

its more of both...actually, its mostly the coaches. They play major favorites, and the players they favorite arent even that good. When players they like miss practice they never do anything about it. Basically its just most of the "star" players never work hard or go to practice because the coaches are so stupid they show major favoritisim and make the players think they're better than what they are.

**WEAKA5HELL** · 08-20-2007, 01:02 PM

I had this problem as well, although it never really affected me since I was never that great. It was very visible with other players though.

**Kybar** · 08-20-2007, 02:29 PM

Well i went to greenville where from 1999-2003 we never won a game. Got a new head coach who was also the strength and conditioning teacher. 2004 his first year we didnt make the playoffs, but been in the playoffs ever since. And now that all the grady boys (kevin grady michigan wolverines) and his effn brothers are outta east grand rapids i can see us taking it alot farther.

But its really in the team. The coach is part of a team, if you want it bad enough you will train, you will fight bone and grit to make yourself better. The physical part of the game is the part that helps the most, Strenght speed and skills are all just a perk. Never let your head down because of the school. Let your head down because you didnt try.

**PowerBuilder08** · 08-20-2007, 03:07 PM

^^^Coach Moore used to be my coach at Midland-Bullock Creek.

Frosh year - 1-8
Soph year - 2-7
Jr year - 2-7
Sr year - 6-3
1 year after graduating - 8-3
2 years after graduating - 13-1, State Runner Up

Coach Moore was there my frosh year, but left the year after. The year after I graduated was his first year out at Greenville.

Our college team is decent...'94 National Champions, 33-time conference champs, etc.

**goawayfat** · 08-20-2007, 03:12 PM

2000 CIF champs, hs record setting running back. Probably our schools best team ever, tho the 2004 team was really good too
2004 CIF Finalists
2005 CIF Semifinalists
2006 4-7 1st round playoffs lol what a ****ty senior year

this year looks very promising for my now former high school

**TNLB38** · 08-20-2007, 04:03 PM

yea 2 years ago (Before my feshman year) we went 8-2 my freshman year(Last year) we went 2-8 we go from dominating a region to sucking but my junor year i think we'll do good since it will be same group that 7 and 8 grade won 6-1 in middle school so i just have to hope....

**aaaaa55555** · 08-20-2007, 04:26 PM

my team hasnt won more than 3 games in the last 5 years at least. there are some good coaches on varsity, but the head coach isnt one of them. we have good talent (our reciever is supposed to go to cal next season) but some of the positions dont get coached well (oline) so we do bad

**aaaaa55555** · 08-20-2007, 04:26 PM

my team hasnt won more than 3 games in the last 5 years at least. there are some good coaches on varsity, but the head coach isnt one of them. we have good talent (our reciever is supposed to go to cal next season) but some of the positions dont get coached well (oline) so we do bad

**aaaaa55555** · 08-20-2007, 04:26 PM

my team hasnt won more than 3 games in the last 5 years at least. there are some good coaches on varsity, but the head coach isnt one of them. we have good talent (our reciever is supposed to go to cal next season) but some of the positions dont get coached well (oline) so we do bad

**FootballNut** · 08-20-2007, 05:29 PM

My school has a fairly good football program, but a school right by us has lost 45 games in a row. When I was throwing in a meet over at this school, I saw one of there throwers walk by with a football shirt on and on the back it said " History is not destiny". It was hilarious, I literally couldn't stop laughing for 5 minutes

**Snowman723** · 08-20-2007, 05:40 PM

My school started a Football team 2 years ago for the first time in 57 years. I made the team and I was proud to be part of the school's history but unfortunately we went 0-7 lol. We were playing in the "A" division and we were really close to winning a bunch of our games so I'm pretty happy with how were preformed.

The next year all of our good players graduated and I got moved from Right Gurad/Left End to Fullback/MLB (yes strong wtf). The team was honestly ****, I was one of the best players on the team and I will be the first to tell you I am ****. I can Lead Block damn well but it doesn't do any good if you ****ing RB doesn't follow your blocks....And I am completely wasted on Defense, my tackling is sub-par at best. Yeah we lost every game but got a win by default when another team forfeit, yeah were awesome!

I vowed never to play football at my highschool again and I stole a LOT of equipment form the team last year...but the coach asked me to play RB so wtf I might just go for it.

**DangerDan** · 08-20-2007, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by WEAKA5HELL

I forgot a follow up question that I wanted to ask. For those of you on teams that suck, is it more personnel problems or are the coaches responsible for atleast part of it? Here the coaches are not great from a football perspective (a lot of them coach other sports) and the players (also not good) just believe anything they have to say like little sheep. Although I have to admit I was one of the sheep once as well.

We used to go playoffs a lot. Then we moved up to 5A (biggest in Texas) and we made playoffs the second year we were in there, but since then we have gone downhill. We were 3-7 last year.

I think it is player's attitudes. A lot of people are just in there for the ride and just pretend to lift in the weightroom and don't push themselves or think they are badass and don't need to lift.

This year is different though, we got a new coach who has won a state championship and is changing our entire team's attitude (and plays, damn that sucks).

**DangerDan** · 08-20-2007, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by Snowman723

I vowed never to play football at my highschool again and I stole a LOT of equipment form the team last year...but the coach asked me to play RB so wtf I might just go for it.

It's hard to run the ball with no O-line, you're in for a ****ty experience again. lol

and don't steal! That's a good way to get your program taken away.

of course y'all are gonna suck ass, it's y'alls first year.

**Snowman723** · 08-20-2007, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by DangerDan

It's hard to run the ball with no O-line, you're in for a ****ty experience again. lol

and don't steal! That's a good way to get your program taken away.

of course y'all are gonna suck ass, it's y'alls first year.

Yeah I won't play RB, i'll stay at FB to give our team a chance lol

**crazycanuck7901** · 08-20-2007, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by Snowman723

I vowed never to play football at my highschool again and I stole a LOT of equipment form the team last year...but the coach asked me to play RB so wtf I might just go for it.

Why would you steal from your team/school? Makes now sense to me...

So how can you play football if you cant play rugby cause of your back injury? Just curious really.

Anyways, I would have to say that when its a team game, you cant blame one coach, or one player or one position group. That said, Its high school and coaches/teams just get who lives within the boundaries of the school. Very rarely does a bad program get a great player cross-boundary. Usually they try to cross over to a better program. Alot is still on the players to get bigger, faster and stronger as allot of high schools don't offer year round training, and don't have a strength and conditioning coach/program. In high school, id say a huge part of the success is on the players, and the strength of their schedule. Your games are what you make them to be.

Read your keys. Understand your position. Study your position. If you are Oline practice together in the off season going through blocking schemes. I think allot of high school football players could get a lot better if they focused on one sport and not doing two or three sports, like adding wrestling and track or baseball. Play the sport you love, and stick to it. It could then take you to college.

**aaaaa55555** · 08-20-2007, 09:36 PM

my bad posting that three times

my computer is messed up

**mattyoc3** · 08-20-2007, 09:39 PM

yeah my football team sucks but i dont play football, the coach was trying to get me to play my freshman year and sophomore year and the beginning of my junior year to be a wide reciever but i declined im a basketball player.

**BangBrahs** · 08-20-2007, 09:55 PM

My school's team went 1-8 last year, and 0-9 the two years before that.

**nightrain36** · 08-20-2007, 10:03 PM

as a coach for a boarding school team I can say that in the last few years we have had a winning record but have won league since I think 2001. We've gone from like 2-8 to now 7-2 (though I'm on jv). The varsity has big plans but I don't think they will go 10-0 this year (probably 9-2) if they are lucky simply because two of the teams in our league are two private schools that have feeder programs and kids would rather play for public scghools than have to pay the money to go to our school, which I understand.

Alot of kids at our school aren't really tough kids, at boarding schools kids don't have the killer instinct or that desire to fight because they have never had to fight for anything in their lives. So we are at a disadvantage. We lack numbers but still manage to do well over other schools. At jv the coaches are real young and like to have fun. The varsity coaches are really serious and a lot of the kids coming from jv don't like have to eat breath football from 8am-8pm. So they get burned out real easy. I say let kids be kids but then again it's not my program so I don't really have that pressure to produce titles.

**Snowman723** · 08-21-2007, 12:30 AM

Originally Posted by crazycanuck7901

Why would you steal from your team/school? Makes now sense to me...

So how can you play football if you cant play rugby cause of your back injury? Just curious really.

Why steal? Extreme hatred and prejudice towards the coaches/teachers who I have despised from day 1 and only played for because I was asked and I had nothing better to do.

I'll have to easily sit out half the season for my back to fully heal and it might not even get there before the season ends. I told the head coach this and he said thats cool but when I'm healthy he wants to get me out there, sorry I didn't bother to mention is because I figure not everyone read my injury thread and i'd end up making a long ass post like this and hijack the thread.

Yeah one reason I hate him is he has not guts, I tell him flat out hes an idiot, steal from his team (I figure he knows it was me) and still comes asking me to play......There are plenty of athletes at our school why doesn't he do some scouting jezzuz /rant

**zigz** · 08-21-2007, 06:40 AM

We haven't had more than 3 losses since the first year we had varsity. That was only in '97, though. We won state back in 2000 and have 4 other section titles.

Oh, and BTW, **** De La Salles. The team that one section last year wasn't allowed to play for state because they had our De La Salle play in their place. Grant would've EASILY won state considering they one the section title 50-0.

**crazycanuck7901** · 08-21-2007, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by Snowman723

Why steal? Extreme hatred and prejudice towards the coaches/teachers who I have despised from day 1 and only played for because I was asked and I had nothing better to do.

I'll have to easily sit out half the season for my back to fully heal and it might not even get there before the season ends. I told the head coach this and he said thats cool but when I'm healthy he wants to get me out there, sorry I didn't bother to mention is because I figure not everyone read my injury thread and i'd end up making a long ass post like this and hijack the thread.

Yeah one reason I hate him is he has not guts, I tell him flat out hes an idiot, steal from his team (I figure he knows it was me) and still comes asking me to play......There are plenty of athletes at our school why doesn't he do some scouting jezzuz /rant

Ok, but firstly stealing is wrong. I find this rather interesting since you use a Bible verse as your signature. Hatred too, is wrong. Life is too short to go around hating people or carrying grudges. If you really dont like him, just tell him you have no interest in playing for him. You wanna play for the team, but not for him. If he isnt there as coach, you will play. It seems that you are willing to contradict your own set of morals or beliefs.

**crazycanuck7901** · 08-21-2007, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by zigz

We haven't had more than 3 losses since the first year we had varsity. That was only in '97, though. We won state back in 2000 and have 4 other section titles.

Oh, and BTW, **** De La Salles. The team that one section last year wasn't allowed to play for state because they had our De La Salle play in their place. Grant would've EASILY won state considering they one the section title 50-0.

Ok well you obviously do not know what you are talking about since California does not have a state tournament for high school football. There are too many highschools in each class to have a tournament. If they ran a tournament, it would probably go into late January. As for De La Salle, they had not received a loss for over 10 full seasons. And they do have a fairly competitive league too. That said for as good a high school program that they are, that streal ended about 6 years ago, and each of the seasons since have had a total of 5 loses. So they still dominate. That said, they actually dont produce alot of NFL players, and honestly not that many D1 players. They are all over D2 for the most part or D1AA.

**WEAKA5HELL** · 08-21-2007, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by zigz

We haven't had more than 3 losses since the first year we had varsity. That was only in '97, though. We won state back in 2000 and have 4 other section titles.

Oh, and BTW, **** De La Salles. The team that one section last year wasn't allowed to play for state because they had our De La Salle play in their place. Grant would've EASILY won state considering they one the section title 50-0.

Read my post, "De La Salle in the 90's". I'm not sure if they lost even 3 games from January 1st, 1990 to December 31st, 1999. Now is a different story. California has no state title, too many teams, but someone already mentioned this.

Also, it's won, not one.

**crazycanuck7901** · 08-21-2007, 09:06 AM

You know, I really wish people would both check their facts first, and learn how to spell and use proper grammar before they post. Too much useless dribble is on here as a result.

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